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  • hemicop
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    Originally posted by Fugitive Hunter View Post
    I never understood why law enforcement is so touchy feely out here. The only guys that are not afraid to go hands on out here is DPS and MCSO from what I seen. Thats about it. I figured this is the wild west and it would be much less restrictive then it is.
    What part of rewarding "rats" didn't you understand?

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  • mookster
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    Come up to northern AZ. We'll take of business and articulate why it got done.

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  • Sgt. Slaughter
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    My class Sgt @ ALEA was Phoenix PD and he taught our DT classes. He said to always go hands on first unless you needed to use your gun. He's now retired and is a reserve Lt. with another department, but I've always taken that advice to heart.

    Evidently statements like that must've disqualified him from upper management.

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  • Fugitive Hunter
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    I never understood why law enforcement is so touchy feely out here. The only guys that are not afraid to go hands on out here is DPS and MCSO from what I seen. Thats about it. I figured this is the wild west and it would be much less restrictive then it is.

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  • Raggy
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    Originally posted by ACrowley View Post
    Soooo, whats the question???????? I watched a video that showed phoenix police officers at work doing their job......... Oh, I get it, this is a new recruitment video that just came out.......Awww sorry fellas, I was just wondering what the video was supposed to be showing........LOL......Gotta love cops that don't worry about political correctness and feelings.......... Nice one PHX PD.
    Mr Crowley, here in AZ, if a cop doesn't worry about PC and feelings, he/she will soon be looking for another job. On the news, Phx PD is talking about charging the officer criminally for this? It boggles the mind, that they will toss this officer under the boss, but yet they stood hard and fast behind a chief who was exposed by ABC15 news for cooking the books on kidnappings. On Friday, ABC15 showed another investigation, that Jack Harris, had signed off on a reality show to follow the kidnapping squad (H.I.K.E. I believe it's called). Doing this, knowing the stats were bloated. But to make it even better, the commander of the squad (a female LT), had signed a partenership with the production manager (owner) of the film company. Nobody in the city or PPD knew nothing about her dealings. Could you imagine if a patrol officer or detective filed false and bogus reports. Or if that same person, signed a side deal to allow a file crew file them while he/she was on the job w/out their PDs or city's blessing?

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  • ACrowley
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    Soooo, whats the question???????? I watched a video that showed phoenix police officers at work doing their job......... Oh, I get it, this is a new recruitment video that just came out.......Awww sorry fellas, I was just wondering what the video was supposed to be showing........LOL......Gotta love cops that don't worry about political correctness and feelings.......... Nice one PHX PD.

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  • Sgt. Slaughter
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    Originally posted by RoadKingTrooper View Post
    No bounce then not excessive
    Jeremy Morse knows all about "the bounce". IIRC, he was ultimately cleared in Inglewood.

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  • deputy x 2
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    In her present state of intoxication....and the way she was beating on her mother...my guess is if he walked up to her and put his hands on her...it would have been on! She would have clawed him and fought like drunken women do!

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  • DAL
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    Originally posted by MikeFarnsworth View Post
    I don't think any police academy teaches that, lol especially under that circumstances...
    I am not expressing an opinion on the propriety of what the officer did, but a tactic or technique does not have to be taught in a police academy for it to be reasonable and appropriate.

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  • Sgt. Slaughter
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    Originally posted by Se7en View Post
    Damn... think I'd be looking for greener pastures.
    Not in THIS economy!

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  • MG108
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    I could not hear audio but it is clear she is jawing and refusing commands.

    it's clear that there is no question that he could go hands on after she refused verbal and was just involved in assault. He has a single impact push that knocks her to the ground and results in no injuries. Article says she hit the wall. I didn't see that and think the width of the sidewalk appears smaller than it is. It looks like her elbow goes straight down. No boarding call here.

    i guess they wanted it to "look" different? He could have taken control of her arm, tucked it and landed on her with his full body weight. It would have "looked" better as he rode her down but it would hurt a lot more.

    to be honest, i would have been more concerned with how he stood her up after cuffing but even that was nothing. a single use hands-on technique that is taught to every officer is simply not excessive here. in addition, i would point out she is intoxicated and the exaggerated movements might be her own inability to maintain balance and coordination.

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  • RoadKingTrooper
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    I didn't see her bounce when she went down No bounce then not excessive

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  • Se7en
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    Originally posted by hemicop View Post
    PPD activly encourages its officers to report or own up to other officers they feel are wrong. It's kinda weird in that these same officers will write reams of paper justifying THEIR behavior but will do just what was seen on TV which almost automatically condemn the officer in the public's eye almost negating any possibility of a fair assessment by Administration since in their "eyes" it's failed the "headline test"..
    Damn... think I'd be looking for greener pastures.

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  • hemicop
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    PPD activly encourages its officers to report or own up to other officers they feel are wrong. It's kinda weird in that these same officers will write reams of paper justifying THEIR behavior but will do just what was seen on TV which almost automatically condemn the officer in the public's eye almost negating any possibility of a fair assessment by Administration since in their "eyes" it's failed the "headline test"..

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  • HotSoup
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    Good take down in my opinion...also looked like the officer might have stumbled a bit right before he reached her and that might have added to it....looked like he had to catch himself on the wall to avoid falling over himself.

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