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  • StalkerCop
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    Originally posted by AzLaw_E View Post
    lol the part about how its not much of an honor cracks me up. Dont go posting that in the correction section. Honor is relative and ill leave it at that.

    Before the new concealed carry law, corrections officers were allowed by law to carry concealed without a ccw. Now everyone can.
    Yes prior to the new CCW law COs could carry just as Police.

    I worked for AZDOC for 7 years. 4 as an Officer and 3 as a Special Invetigator. You are correct. Honor is relative. Its mostly what the individual person makes of it. I am not ashamed of the 7 years I worked there and use my experience there every day on the streets. However I would never go back there again. Being a street cop is deffinately an honor. In my mind anyways.

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  • AzLaw_E
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    Originally posted by StalkerCop View Post
    Ok this is rediculous. AZDOC does not issue guns to their officers. Officers who actually use a gun on their daily duties, pick it up and turn in back in at the end of their shift. If a DOC officers walks into a store with a gun and badge then its their personal gun. Only AZDOC Special Investigators are issued guns from the department. And yes, just about anyone can be a DOC officer. Its not much of an honor.
    lol the part about how its not much of an honor cracks me up. Dont go posting that in the correction section. Honor is relative and ill leave it at that.

    Before the new concealed carry law, corrections officers were allowed by law to carry concealed without a ccw. Now everyone can.

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  • StalkerCop
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    Originally posted by ruger44 View Post
    But not everyone can walk into a store with a gun and get the look's ....That gun and badge mean's you represent the state ...They don't just hand out a cert card to anyone
    Ok this is rediculous. AZDOC does not issue guns to their officers. Officers who actually use a gun on their daily duties, pick it up and turn in back in at the end of their shift. If a DOC officers walks into a store with a gun and badge then its their personal gun. Only AZDOC Special Investigators are issued guns from the department. And yes, just about anyone can be a DOC officer. Its not much of an honor.

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  • Jeff22
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    Rumor has it we just had one of our police officers put in notice to take a job as a correctional officer in Arizona, but I don't know if it was a state job or with the Federal Bureau of Prisons

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  • MG108
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    Originally posted by ruger44 View Post
    But not everyone can walk into a store with a gun and get the look's ....That gun and badge mean's you represent the state ...They don't just hand out a cert card to anyone
    You would wear a visible gun and badge without powers of arrest? I suspect you are also lacking a radio and ballistic vest too?

    It used to be only certain DOC officers were issued weapons (i.e. transport). They didn't generally take their weapon home and they couldn't use their personal weapon at work. That meant no firearm worn with uniform while not on duty (i.e. no looks at the store). I would be surprised if that policy has changed substantially. Street clothes, personal CCW, and DOC ID would be preferred (the creds are only to identify to LE if/when you are stopped).

    And no, it's not just like DPS.
    Last edited by MG108; 04-29-2011, 03:14 AM.

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  • ruger44
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    But not everyone can walk into a store with a gun and get the look's ....That gun and badge mean's you represent the state ...They don't just hand out a cert card to anyone

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  • AzLaw_E
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    Originally posted by ruger44 View Post
    From what i've read on the DOC site in the training ...DOC officer's can carry off duty ...Just like DPS but do not have any arresting power's .
    pretty much...but so does everyone in az

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  • ruger44
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    From what i've read on the DOC site in the training ...DOC officer's can carry off duty ...Just like DPS but do not have any arresting power's .

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  • Cowboy58
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    So how is the hiring process with AZDOC? Does it move quickly or rather slow? How is the morale, or does that depend on the facility you work at? Is it fair to assume overtime is scarce since I see on their site that furloughs are mandatory for 2011 an 12.

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  • striketm
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    There are 3 facilities in the Phoenix area. They have females facility (Perryville), Lewis which is mostly general population (about 40 miles west of Phoenix), and Florence which is the Special Management Unit and you would itself describres. This last facility is over in Florence, AZ which is about 45 minutes drive south of Phoenix. Good luck if you decide to come over to Phoenix. It's getting hot.

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  • Napoleon357
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    This thread is very interesting. I'm currently a correctional officer with the Wisconsin DOC and I want to apply for the Arizona DOC. I wouldn't mind living in the Phoenix area. I just wonder which facility I should apply for?

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  • BORSTARSDbuff
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    Any idea on the length of the process?

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  • CACBAND
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    Originally posted by StalkerCop View Post
    Incorrect sir, Arizona DOC Officers are not covered under HR 218. They do not meet the requirments. The one requirment they are missing is that they do not have arrest powers.

    Under state law they are authorized to carry under the same authority as any Police Officer. But thats at the state level only.
    That's my mistake than as I should not trust everything I'm told. I heard they were from a CO I talked to at the gas station.

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  • StalkerCop
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    Incorrect sir, Arizona DOC Officers are not covered under HR 218. They do not meet the requirments. The one requirment they are missing is that they do not have arrest powers.

    Under state law they are authorized to carry under the same authority as any Police Officer. But thats at the state level only.

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  • CACBAND
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    Funny you should post this, as I was getting ready to ask the same thing.
    I too would be interested in what the overall feel for them is like. Pay is lower than most county correctional jobs although with the state your HR 218 covered with is nice.

    Also personally, all things the same, I'd pick Tucson over Phoenix. Still a large city, but with smaller town feel. That's just personal choice though and I'm sure most of the Phoenix guys on here will disagree

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