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    Well, like everyone else, my lot are implementing coronavirus contingency planning. When the hammer finally comes down, that will mean a) the temporary dissolution of our existing area and specialist detective squads and the creation of larger, multi-purpose groups and, ultimately b) everyone back into uniform. Should be entertaining. Bar a very few and far between shifts, I haven't personally been in uniform for fifteen years. It will be all the more interesting how it works given we have something like half the number of officers, uniformed or otherwise, by head of population, that most of the other large European countries have.

    Any road, how are things shaping up to look for you guys?
    I'm a little bit waayy, a little bit wooah, a little bit woosh, I'm a geezer.

  • #2
    As a Fed I am working from home until I can't anymore then I guess I'll go into the office to do what I still can..my area and around it is essentially locked down (shelter in place). Only essential services are allowed to do their regular jobs like medical services, police, fire, garbage pickup, grocers etc. Will absolutely tank the local economy here.

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    • Kraut0783
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      Hear ya, my fed buddies are on admin leave and restricted work schedule....while us TFO's catch the slack and work everyday =)

  • #3
    A number of the local police agencies in California are telling their personnel to avoid public contact unless absolutely necessary. If this means forgoing traffic enforcement and not initiating action when observing minor crimes that do not risk imminent harm of injury to others, then the so be it.

    As of last Sunday night, my own agency had not issued any department wide directive on the matter. Traditionally, mine has been an agency that is very driven by public contact activity of any/all types whether t be enforcement or just public assists, so this has posed a bit of a dilemma for the officers. Many sergeants have taken it upon themselves to tell their troops they don't care about stats this month, that they will take the heat for low activity and just to stay safe.

    There is a fake message from the head of our agency that has been circulating among the troops. It really peaked spirits and made folks think the department really cared about them until they finished reading it and noted the writing style was not that of a Headquarters message. I'll pass it on below with notations to explain what various codes mean. Again, it is a hoax message and not real. Perhaps someone in Headquarters will see it and sign their name to it.

    Due to the epidemic of the wide spread of COVID-19 in the state of California and the world, I’m giving the directive to suspend all enforcement activity effective immediately. All uniform personnel should limit their exposure to anyone that may have been in contact with the COVID-19. The only way to prevent or limit this exposure is to have less community contact and social distance. To help the field personnel with this, I’m having all area offices remove all 215’s (traffic citations) and 214’s (warning citations) from the lockboxes located in all area offices. I’m also having all 11-82’s (non-injury traffic accidents) and all 20002’s (non-injury hit & run) collisions to become counter reports. To help the field personnel, I’m also ordering all communication centers to have all collisions that meet this criteria to have parties exchange information and not send officers to limit the possible exposure to the COVID-19. In addition officers will not be sent to call boxes, 11-24’s (homeless RV’s) or 11-26’s (abandoned vehicles) if they are off the roadway. Communication centers will roll 11-85’s (tow trucks) for such parties. In this time of State of Emergency, all field personnel will be reactive but available to the public when needed and in view patrol will be the upmost important. All Sergeants have been given the directive to enforce this and to make sure all officers are doing their part to limit contact with COVID-19. In closing, remember to wash your hands and avoid touching your face, eyes, mouth and nose. All area offices are receiving boxes of hand sanitizer so officers have them available when they have contact with the public. Be safe and remember the most important thing is coming back to the office safe and to your families. God bless.





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    • #4
      Jail isn't taking people except violence or felony, we are asked not to work a ton of traffic and to definitely not write tickets due to money and not wanting to get the courts really backed up. Some minor staffing changes with a couple of people working from home, and our campus is shut down so we are doing almost nothing; online training and stuff like that, supervisors are catching up on paperwork. I still hear just as many calls over the local agency channels though, not as many cars getting stopped I guess to avoid overwhelming the jail. Academy graduation ceremonies are suspended and the entire state training center is closed, even for advanced courses through the end of the month at least. I work part-time for a school agency and we are not working there at all right now as the schools have been shut down. Some restaurants still allow eat-in, the ones with drive-thru are mostly drive-thru only. Wal-Mart is closed at night because nighttime customers keep interfering with restocking, cleaning, and other overnight stuff. I believe there's 3-5 people within 100 miles or so that have it.

      In contact with in-laws who police in what you might call "ground zero" for all this mess; they started out working 20-hour shifts with no days off, five or so officers died from exhaustion. If you tried to get through a highway checkpoint you better have a good reason or it was an automatic seven years in prison. As of a week or two ago everything is basically back to normal for them except for some holiday-type mass gatherings and school. The police ran out of face masks and it was a common sight for citizens to rush a police station, leave boxes of masks, and run away quickly (it's forbidden for them to accept gifts, unlike here where we get free drinks at the gas station etc). While I was there I saw some public health and party officials go to a neighboring apartment building to enforce a quarantine order, turns out they weren't infected at all and are allowed out now. Grandma got pneumonia unrelated to the virus and has recovered. Nobody I know there has gotten it.

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      • #5
        Originally posted by L-1 View Post
        A number of the local police agencies in California are telling their personnel to avoid public contact unless absolutely necessary. If this means forgoing traffic enforcement and not initiating action when observing minor crimes that do not risk imminent harm of injury to others, then the so be it
        That is what is going on at most agencies in Iowa. I don't know what actually was said to most agencies but our deputies were told basically what you have here

        Originally posted by emtguy89 View Post
        Jail isn't taking people except violence or felony,.
        Yep. The rather large county next to me normally has between 20 and 50 arrests a day. Wednesday they had 5 people taken to jail. I notced a surge yesterday until I looked at the charges and saw ICE and USMS holds on nearly all the arrestees



        Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

        My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS

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        • #6
          Feds are mostly at home, teleworking, aka still in jammies by 10....

          BUT: don't get too used to it. They're will be plenty of slots to fill in upcoming weeks when FEMA incident command systems get set up. Everything from security at tent hospitals to armed escort of supply trucks when highway robbers begin to emerge....
          For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.

          -HL Mencken

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          • boconnor
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            As a Fed myself I'm stuck working my *** off. Not teleworking

        • #7
          Im at a state LE agency, we are limiting contact with the public as much as possible, but still mainly business as usual as of today. I do worry about the impact of unrest when people in cities realize there is a good possibility they wont have serious consequences, such as misdemeanor offenses being overlooked...
          John 15:13 - Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends.

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          • #8
            Originally posted by Ratatatat View Post
            armed escort of supply trucks when highway robbers begin to emerge....
            "Cities exploded — a whirlwind of looting, a firestorm of fear. Men began to feed on men. On the roads it was a white-line nightmare. Only those mobile enough to scavenge, brutal enough to pillage would survive. The gangs took over the highways, ready to wage war for a tank of juice."

            Though on the plus side, I'm thinking my bosses will be less needy about form-filling.
            I'm a little bit waayy, a little bit wooah, a little bit woosh, I'm a geezer.

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            • emtguy89
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              I'm just here for the gasoline.

          • #9
            I'm private security - or at least I was - and this has had a significant impact on my work. A decent amount of my job comprises of interacting with large groups of people in public areas, and with the new social-distancing laws and whatnot, I'm more-or-less redundant. Technically I'm still employed for situations where a client has a more specific request that won't involve dealing with many people, but I don't think I'll be doing much of anything for the foreseeable future. I was also employed as security in a few clubs on Friday and Saturday nights, but obviously that's not needed anymore. I went down to try and get on unemployment today and the line was out the door. Can't apply online either as there's too much traffic.

            There's a taskforce of 500 members to enforce isolation requirements and social-distancing laws. Random Breath Testing has largely been suspended, but everything else seems to be running as normal. Though, from what a friend told me the other night, they're expecting a pretty large uptick in offending, particularly domestic violence. Media reporting has plummeted on anything non-covid. Stabbings, shootings, armed robberies, and even homicides barely (or at all) rate a mention. If things go haywire I'm not too keen on staying around my area as it's got quite a high crime-rate, with a big drug problem to exacerbate it. Of course, the dealers and addicts are still out on the street as usual. With most businesses shut down, it was quite illuminating to see the lowlifes outnumber regular people.

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            • #10
              My court which normally operates 13 courtrooms is down to just the one for arraignments. The city is still making the necessary arrests but many more arrestees are being let out on PR than usual. Every one gets temp checked before entry to the court. At this time I am only working two or three days per week. Today had to go in for a "fitting / training" for the N95 masks.
              You miss every shot you don't take.

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              • #11
                Originally posted by Marshal40 View Post
                My court which normally operates 13 courtrooms is down to just the one for arraignments. The city is still making the necessary arrests but many more arrestees are being let out on PR than usual. Every one gets temp checked before entry to the court. At this time I am only working two or three days per week. Today had to go in for a "fitting / training" for the N95 masks.
                I worked court yesterday and the District Ct judge came into to do a few Domestic Abuse hearings. EVERYTHING else was handled by attorneys remotely All proceedings were continued until June
                Judge expected to come in next Monday for more of the same but wasn't sure.........

                Most arrests are released and our Magistrate is handling arrestees via Skype from home when necessary .
                Since some people need to be told by notes in crayon .......Don't PM me with without prior permission. If you can't discuss the situation in the open forum ----it must not be that important

                My new word for the day is FOCUS, when someone irritates you tell them to FOCUS

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                • Marshal40
                  Marshal40 commented
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                  Wild times we are living in for sure.

              • #12
                We got the Stay At Home order yesterday here in Michigan. People here in West Michigan are pretty calm overall.
                You big-city dwellers will have much harder challenges for sure.
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                • #13
                  Originally posted by CaptainKangaroo5691 View Post
                  I'm private security - or at least I was - and this has had a significant impact on my work. A decent amount of my job comprises of interacting with large groups of people in public areas, and with the new social-distancing laws and whatnot, I'm more-or-less redundant. Technically I'm still employed for situations where a client has a more specific request that won't involve dealing with many people, but I don't think I'll be doing much of anything for the foreseeable future. I was also employed as security in a few clubs on Friday and Saturday nights, but obviously that's not needed anymore. I went down to try and get on unemployment today and the line was out the door. Can't apply online either as there's too much traffic.

                  There's a taskforce of 500 members to enforce isolation requirements and social-distancing laws. Random Breath Testing has largely been suspended, but everything else seems to be running as normal. Though, from what a friend told me the other night, they're expecting a pretty large uptick in offending, particularly domestic violence. Media reporting has plummeted on anything non-covid. Stabbings, shootings, armed robberies, and even homicides barely (or at all) rate a mention. If things go haywire I'm not too keen on staying around my area as it's got quite a high crime-rate, with a big drug problem to exacerbate it. Of course, the dealers and addicts are still out on the street as usual. With most businesses shut down, it was quite illuminating to see the lowlifes outnumber regular people.
                  Victoria To Deploy 500 Police To Enforce Isolation Requirements

                  https://www.9news.com.au/national/co...a-64e96992ea5c
                  Last edited by JohnKelly; 03-24-2020, 06:11 PM.

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                  • #14
                    I still don't understand how they expect us to enforce isolation and shut down orders when we can't arrest for misdemeanors.

                    Hey, you're supposed to only have take out and delivery... you can't let people eat in your restaurant.

                    "F-you"

                    OK, have a nice day then....
                    "I am a Soldier. I fight where I'm told and I win where I fight." -- GEN George S. Patton, Jr.

                    "With a brother on my left and a sister on my right, we face…. We face what no one should face. We face, so no one else would face. We are in the face of Death." -- Holli Peet

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                    • #15
                      Originally posted by tanksoldier View Post
                      I still don't understand how they expect us to enforce isolation and shut down orders when we can't arrest for misdemeanors.

                      Hey, you're supposed to only have take out and delivery... you can't let people eat in your restaurant.

                      "F-you"

                      OK, have a nice day then....
                      Perhaps issuance of citations?

                      You miss every shot you don't take.

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