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  • #16
    Howzit from sunny South Africa

    To answer the questions

    Are you armed, and what with?
    Yes we are defiantly armed, We all carry a VEKTOR Z88 9mm pistol it is very similar to the berretta and then usually the passenger in our vehicles will carry a R5 (Galil) 5.56/caliber Assault Rifle. We also sometimes carry a 12-Bore (gauge) Pump Action Shotgun.

    What kind of cars do you drive?
    The standard patrol vehicle is a Bakkie or pickup see the following pic http://www.respespta.co.za/Photos/Ch...d%20Bakkie.jpg
    This is a wonderful vehicle for transporting undesirables; it is not very comfortable in the back

    Our more specialised units drive a variety of other cars her is a link to some pics http://www.respespta.co.za/

    For problem situations we used a armoured vehicle called a Nyala see the pic below http://www.respespta.co.za/Photos/Nyala--04.JPG
    This is a nice vehicle to work in

    What does your badge look like?
    Our badge is the same as my avatar and has our surname above the star it is usually displayed on our chest

    Here are some other SAPS links
    http://www.saps.gov.za/ official site
    http://www.10111.co.za/
    http://www.respespta.co.za/
    http://www.servamus.co.za police magazine
    If you run, you'll only go to jail tired

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Sleuth
      The usual questions:
      Are you armed, and what with?
      What kind of cars do you drive?
      What does your badge look like?
      The French version of the answer :
      --- Both main LE agencies (Gendarmerie and Police Nationale) in France are armed. Gendarmerie as member of the military forces have handguns and also tanks ! Generally, handguns are Beretta 92F, Browning as riotguns, H&K, FAMAS, and some good ol' rifles. We even have some old-made machine-gun : the AA52. Yet, most units are to be equipped with the Glock very soon.
      Police Nationale and especially cops in uniform have normally a revolver, the Manhurin MR73 (357). They should also get the Glock.
      The third force in policing is a municipal police some cities can have. In that case, regulations are very different depending on the area. Some are not authorised to have guns.
      ---Talking about cars... Wow, too numerous brands and types to mention any of them. Some Ford, Renault, Peugeot, BMW (bikes),..., nothing to compare with the American ones equipped with GPS...
      ---Concerning badges, well, we don't have metallic ones. We just have a cop card we normally are supposed to show off when required. We, as gendarme, only have some shoulder patches

      Cheers
      Operator! Give me the number for 911!
      Homer Simpson

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Sleuth
        Where do the investigators carry/wear that metal disk? Is it on a neck chain (I see the hole in it).
        Traditional wear is in the pocket with a chain to the belt (not unlike a pocket watch). Most officers today have the disc in their pockets or wallets without a chain (trusting their professional ability to guard their own gear ) or even on their key rings.

        Originally the disc was only used to verify the ID card, not to mark an investigator on the scene (armbands or jackets are usually used for that).

        But it is not uncommon that officers buy US-style disc holders that can be worn around the neck or clipped on the belt to mark themselves as LE officers.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by fredlgd
          The French.............................
          Hey Mate, if you stay much longer in Ireland, you'll be talking like a Dubliner and being mistaken for the Garda.

          When you return to France, you'll be asking for a Pint!

          Cheers.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by JohnKelly
            Hey Mate, if you stay much longer in Ireland, you'll be talking like a Dubliner and being mistaken for the Garda.

            When you return to France, you'll be asking for a Pint!

            Cheers.
            I'm supposed to go back home by mid-July with lots of regrets... I'll miss the pint
            Who knows, next time, if the Gods listen to me, they 'll eventually send me to Australia... Probably I would also like the taste of Kangaroo with a pint of F****R in my hand.
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            Last edited by fredlgd; 06-10-2005, 08:54 AM.
            Operator! Give me the number for 911!
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            • #21
              Rattel, I read that policing SA is serious business, with many officers killed in the line of duty. Also, that many departments are lacking the basics, like cars. Is this true?

              Where are you stationed, in a city or out in the country (pardon me, bush)? Is there one national force, or seperate state and city forces? How long have you been an officer? In the bush, are their "resident Officers" in the smaller towns?

              Sorry for all the questions, but I am a curious sort.


              Edited to add:
              Do we have any officers from the 'new' force in Northern Ireland? I would like to know how that is working out. I met someone from there a few years back. She spoke of how she hated the British. When I asked why, all she could say was : "That's what we do! They are the British! We hate them!"
              How can you overcome that kind of thinking?
              Last edited by Sleuth; 06-13-2005, 03:37 PM.
              "A man who has nothing which he cares about more than he does about his personal safety is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the existing of better men than himself."
              John Stuart Mill

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              • #22
                And the usual questions:
                Are you armed, and what with?
                What kind of cars do you drive?
                What does your badge look like?


                hi
                i try to answer

                i run a security company here in germany for about 13 jears
                mostly we are busy in event protection
                if we are armed ( if i can called it so ? ) we carying

                asp telescope batons
                knife resistant gloves
                handcuffs
                first defense mk6 pepper
                knife and punch resistant vest
                sometimes ballistic vest
                always a good lamp like sure fire or asp tactical light
                and of course the most importend weapon of all the brain

                cars
                for company use i have a volkswagen polo
                before that i have two smart cars
                i use a chevy trail blazer for business and private driving

                badge
                as my company strongly affected by some visits and vacations in miami jears ago the logo and some other stuff have a strong american touch

                more infos www.pss-soest.de

                regards
                masterchief
                from germany

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                • #23
                  Hi Sleuth

                  To answer your questions

                  I am a Reserve member of the South African Police Service, which constitutes both the national and local police force. At the local level some of our larger towns do have a municipal police service but they are only concerned with the enforcing of municipal by laws and traffic offences. Any criminal activities fall under the SAPS.

                  As a reservist I must work at least 18 hours a month although I usually average between 40 and 50. We are all unpaid volunteers, when we are on duty there is no distinction between permanent force members and us, we use the same equipment and vehicles and we respond to all the same complaints. We have had instances in the past were our station would not have had members out on patrol and responding to complaints if not for the reservists who manned the vehicles

                  Our town Port Elizabeth is divided into areas, each area has its own station and patrol vehicles, while we are supposed to stay in our area we can help out neighbouring areas if there is a problem. I am stationed at Walmer Police station, which encompasses an area of about 1000 square kilometres and it encompasses everything from seaside to farms (bush), township (shanty town) to plush upper class suburbs and business to residential.

                  Each town in the country has a resident police station with officers stationed there permanently we refer it as been stuck in the
                  If you run, you'll only go to jail tired

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                  • #24
                    Wow !!!!



                    Thought things had changed since the end of the apartheid! So sad for, seemingly, a so nice country...

                    Stay safe and take care.
                    Operator! Give me the number for 911!
                    Homer Simpson

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                    • #25
                      Hi fredlgd

                      Things have actually got better, we just need to get a handle on the crime in this country. For the most part south africa is actually quite safe and as long as you are carefull.

                      I made a bit of a miscaculation regarding the size of my area in the statement below, I need to check up on this.
                      "which encompasses an area of about 1000 square kilometres"

                      Here is a link to the 2004 crime stats for Port Elizabeth
                      http://www.saps.gov.za/statistics/re...ort_Elizabeth_

                      Cheers
                      If you run, you'll only go to jail tired

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                      • #26
                        [QUOTE=Urkki]Often the problem with those kind of a travel diaries is that they are made by university exchange students: maybe too high-culturally orientated ( j*** and classical first things to know about Finland? ) and again sophisticated.. Don
                        Homer: When I first heard that Marge was joining the police academy, I thought it would be fun and zany, like that movie Spaceballs. But instead it was dark and disturbing... Like that movie -- Police Academy.

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                          • #28
                            oh, and "funny-sounding" of course only meaning the way you speak english...

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                            • #29
                              Now that's funny - when I was "Down Under", they thought I spoke with an accent! I would love to hear a Finn speaking "Austrailian" English! I had enoght trouble, not with the accent, but some of the words:
                              US = Ozzy
                              Speed Bumps = Judder Bars
                              Pitcher (of beer) = Jug

                              And driving on 'the other' side of the street!
                              "A man who has nothing which he cares about more than he does about his personal safety is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the existing of better men than himself."
                              John Stuart Mill

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Sleuth
                                Now that's funny - when I was "Down Under", they thought I spoke with an accent! I would love to hear a Finn speaking "Austrailian" English! I had enoght trouble, not with the accent, but some of the words:
                                US = Ozzy
                                Speed Bumps = Judder Bars
                                Pitcher (of beer) = Jug

                                And driving on 'the other' side of the street!
                                In Australia,

                                Fanny = Vagina
                                Root = Having Sex
                                Fag = Cigarette

                                You can imagine the surprised look on our faces when a female American tourist reported to our Station that she had lost her Fanny Pack, or when we were working with the US Secret Service, the shocked look on their faces when our boss told them that he would be back in a second as he was going out to have a fag.

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