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    Is it just me, or is this movie going to do more harm to the anti-war movement than good? They're acting as though no one in the world knows what stop-loss is.
    "First of all, then we have to say the American public overwhelmingly voted for socialism when they elected President Obama." - Al Sharpton, March 21, 2010

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    Might be just me being an Aussie and all, but I've never heard of the term 'stop-loss' before....
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    • #3
      "Stop-loss" is a provision where the U.S. military has the option of using to either (a) retain a servicemember beyond their end term of service date (b) prevent a servicemember from making a permanent change of station from one duty post to another.

      This can be done on the basis of the contents of the (four page) enlistment contract a servicemember signs when he/she enters the military where at Paragraph 9(c) of DD Form 4/1 (The Armed Forces Enlistment Contract) that states: "In the event of war, my enlistment in the Armed Forces continues until six (6) months after the war ends, unless the enlistment is ended sooner by the President of the United States." This is also codified in federal law: Title 10, United States Code, Section 12305(a) which states in part: "... the President may suspend any provision of law relating to promotion, retirement, or separation applicable to any member of the armed forces who the President determines is essential to the national security of the United States".

      The policy has been challenged several times in federal court and the case has been dismissed each time.

      Now MTV Films is making a movie that is basically a 2 hr whine-fest about it.
      Last edited by equinox137; 03-30-2008, 01:37 AM.
      "First of all, then we have to say the American public overwhelmingly voted for socialism when they elected President Obama." - Al Sharpton, March 21, 2010

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      • #4
        One thing's for sure.... it's not going to help the anti-war movement.

        Like you said, it's just a big b*tching party the H-wood elites put together. It'll do pretty much what "Jarhead" did with the attempt to make the Corps (the whole military to the ignorant) look bad.........nothing. Just let 'em whine. It's a free country. They're only hurting themselves.
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        • #5
          We need a pro war movie. We are in a fight for our lives.

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          • #6
            I won't hold my breath for Hollyweird to put out a positive war movie set in modern times, but 300 could easily fit our current situation. Threatened by a large force, a leader has to go against corrupt elders who don't want to change how things are done. A small group of heroic warriors step forward and suffer due to vascilating politicians and traitorous statesmen.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by THE BRONZE View Post
              I won't hold my breath for Hollyweird to put out a positive war movie set in modern times, but 300 could easily fit our current situation. Threatened by a large force (Hostile Muslims), a leader has to go against corrupt elders (Every Politician in Washington?) who don't want to change how things are done. A small group of heroic warriors (OOHRAH?) step forward and suffer due to vacillating politicians and traitorous statesmen.

              There, fixed it for ya
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              • #8
                A lady friend and I debated over whether or not to go see the movie. We decided against it due to my past and her being a month away from being comissioned in the Navy.

                I figured that if it was produced by MTV, it's probably going to be a b*tch fest and that nothing good would come from it.

                I did receive a message from an old friend who saw it. Evidently she NOW has respect for me and what I did over there after seeing "StopLoss".... still haven't figured out how to respond to that....


                As far as a "pro-war" (?) movie, I know Bruce Willis is pushing for a movie to be made about an infantry unit Michael Yon wrote about for a year. (1 Battalion, 24th Infantry Reg, 25th Infantry Division) There's also been talk about producing a movie about the second battle for Fallujah (2004). But I'm not going to hold my breath...

                ETA: There's also talk about making a movie about SEAL Team 10 and Operation Redwing News Story
                Last edited by JTShooter; 03-30-2008, 12:01 PM.
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                "You go for a man hard enough and fast enough, he don't have time to think about how many's with him; he thinks about himself, and how he might get clear of that wrath that's about to set down on him."

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                • #9
                  I did receive a message from an old friend who saw it. Evidently she NOW has respect for me and what I did over there after seeing "StopLoss".... still haven't figured out how to respond to that....
                  Wow.

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                  • #10
                    Im not going to see it. I dont like war movies that much, especially the ones coming out these days. Gone are the days of "the Duke" and Lee Marvin. Now we get Jessica Beale and who knows....Im ashamed to be a member of the starbucks and reality television generation.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by justhomp View Post
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                      I did receive a message from an old friend who saw it. Evidently she NOW has respect for me and what I did over there after seeing "StopLoss".... still haven't figured out how to respond to that....
                      Had it been my old friend, I can think of a few ways I would have responded. None of which would involve friendly conversation.

                      Its comments like that, which require me to leave the room when "the war" becomes a conversation. My wife has learned the look on my face means, "its time to go".
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by reils49 View Post
                        Had it been my old friend, I can think of a few ways I would have responded. None of which would involve friendly conversation.
                        Hence the "old" part Haven't spoken to her for about 2 years... and it looks like it's going to continue along this path... sad that I had to remove myself from some of my friendships after I joined the military... oh well

                        Originally posted by reils49 View Post
                        Its comments like that, which require me to leave the room when "the war" becomes a conversation. My wife has learned the look on my face means, "its time to go".
                        I hear ya. I'm the same way. I avoid most "conversations" about Iraq or Afghanistan when it's initiated by those who know only what the MSM tells them...
                        Last edited by JTShooter; 03-30-2008, 04:08 PM.
                        “The man in black fled across the desert, and the gunslinger followed."

                        "You go for a man hard enough and fast enough, he don't have time to think about how many's with him; he thinks about himself, and how he might get clear of that wrath that's about to set down on him."

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by farewelltonavy
                          Of course it could fit in the current situation if it wasn't based on a comic book which in turn it was based on an old greek legend
                          No matter what it's based on, as written, the movie has very strong parallels to our current struggles.

                          Nice changes, Chit2001.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by farewelltonavy
                            OK than let's turn this into a political discussion as well :P
                            It began as a political discussion. Stop-loss is a political issue.

                            Originally posted by farewelltonavy
                            300 Spartans were fighting at home, not abroad to fight the big bad Persian army. The appeal there was fighting to defend your country from invasion. Agree ?
                            Maybe at Thermoplyae and Platea, but Spartan history is far more extensive than that.

                            Originally posted by farewelltonavy
                            As far as movies go, I haven't seen any good ones recently about this war. It seems like all the good movies come out years after wars are over. I am looking forward to Generation Kill, HBo miniseries, based off the book with the same title about a platoon of Marines at the beggining of the war. Don't expect Rambo meets Chuck Norris and they both kick major Iraqi @$$ though, as the journalist who wrote the book also wrote for Rolling Stones.
                            That makes me feel so much better.....
                            "First of all, then we have to say the American public overwhelmingly voted for socialism when they elected President Obama." - Al Sharpton, March 21, 2010

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                            • #15
                              I refuse to pay money for a whinefest movie.......

                              Read your contract......and know what the military can/can't do to you in time of war.....and drive on....

                              I have a buddy that was out for 2 years and got jerked back onto active duty and is in Iraq right now.....

                              Was he pizzed about it...? Of course....but he rucked up and went over there without suing anyone or running to Canada.......

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