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  • #61
    I'm not the one who uses him as a screen name and quotes him in my sig line.
    LOL. Have you ever heard Michael Savage get on a rant? It's a riot. I have to say I agree with most of what he says. But I agreed with him long before I started listening to his show. Anyway, if you've ever heard him get on a rant then you would be able to picture him saying the quotes from my profile. And then you would think it's a riot too.

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    • #62
      I've listened to Savage, I totally agree he is a riot to listen to. If you want to listen to a much smarter person though who rants on whomever deserves it at the time listen to G. Gordon Liddy of Watergate fame. When they passed the 93 gun ban his first comments on the radio were "those Republican P...ys" If you are ever in SoCal listen to John & Ken on KFI AM640 3-7 pm. You might even be able to listen to them online, not sure. Those guys can rant like Savage never dreamed!
      "Respect for religion must be reestablished. Public debt should be reduced. The arrogance of public officials must be curtailed. Assistance to foreign lands must be stopped or we shall bankrupt ourselves. The people should be forced to work and not depend on government for subsistence." - Cicero, 60 B.C.

      For California police academy notes go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CABasicPolice/

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      • #63
        Originally posted by pkagel
        I've listened to Savage, I totally agree he is a riot to listen to. If you want to listen to a much smarter person though who rants on whomever deserves it at the time listen to G. Gordon Liddy of Watergate fame. When they passed the 93 gun ban his first comments on the radio were "those Republican P...ys" If you are ever in SoCal listen to John & Ken on KFI AM640 3-7 pm. You might even be able to listen to them online, not sure. Those guys can rant like Savage never dreamed!
        I've heard of ol' Liddy. I can't get him where I live. Also, half the fun of listening to talk radio is the politics, the other half is the ball-busting entertainment.

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        • #64
          It is mainly about entertainment to me. Try this one next time they are bitchin' about a bill in congress on the radio or evening news. Go pull up the actual bill and read it. I've done this countless times and it never ceases to amaze me how often they are bitchin' about something that isn't actually in the bill but they "think" it is.

          Originally posted by savage4presiden
          I've heard of ol' Liddy. I can't get him where I live. Also, half the fun of listening to talk radio is the politics, the other half is the ball-busting entertainment.
          "Respect for religion must be reestablished. Public debt should be reduced. The arrogance of public officials must be curtailed. Assistance to foreign lands must be stopped or we shall bankrupt ourselves. The people should be forced to work and not depend on government for subsistence." - Cicero, 60 B.C.

          For California police academy notes go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CABasicPolice/

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          • #65
            Originally posted by savage4presiden
            The day that 1-3% of the total population controls the other 97-99% is the day that anarchy starts.

            In other words, the majority should rule?
            You have no right to not be offended.-Neal Boortz

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            • #66
              In other words, the majority should rule?
              Centurion44, you hit it on the head. The constitution and the Bill of Rights was a guardian agaisnt the majority mob rules (51% telling the other 49% what to do), but i believe most people ahve forgotten that, and believe that thease two documents are a living entitiy, and I truly believe that it can't be.

              We all want our children and children's children to have the same oppurtunities as we have, but what's to stop someone (like say the SCOTUS) from imposing their will, because the Consitution and Bill of Rights has changed in their opinion.

              That's what we have theamendment process is to change the way things are, not the interpration of 5 out of 9 judges.
              America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damned well pleased. -PJ O'Rourke

              Those who give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
              - Benjamin Franklin

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              • #67
                And here I thought this thread was going to be about Federal locality pay.
                Hail hail the gang's all here, when the going gets tough I know my friends will still be there. - Drop Kick Murphys, "The Gang's all Here"

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Malcontent
                  Centurion44, you hit it on the head.
                  S4P still hasn't answered my question. Hmm...
                  You have no right to not be offended.-Neal Boortz

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Centurion44
                    S4P still hasn't answered my question. Hmm...
                    Be patient, he's googling his answers.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Centurion44
                      S4P still hasn't answered my question. Hmm...
                      Should the majority rule? I think they're ruling right now although it really makes no difference. If you elect a rep. you get a dem. and vice versa. The majority should and does rule. That is precisely why we have a constitution and a bill of rights. They protect the minority from the majority rule.

                      I had to google like all hell to get that juicy one! J/K

                      The majority rules so long as the minority is not infringed. The congress passes bills based on majority. When have you ever heard of a bill passing with 49% of the vote? Have we ever elected a president with 30% of the electoral vote? Of course not! Because we have majority rules. The minority might not like that but it doesn't make a difference. If you think the minority rules then give me one, just one, example. Oh wait I know of one. One Damn judge overturned six million Cali. voters on prop. 200. So, now cali. allows illegal aliens to sign up for school and medical treatment as well as a host of other rights reserved for U.S.A citizens. Is that the kind of minority rules you want in America?
                      Last edited by savage4presiden; 07-11-2005, 07:45 PM.

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                      • #71
                        Bill Clinton was elected by 43%

                        Originally posted by savage4presiden
                        If you think the minority rules then give me one, just one, example.
                        "Respect for religion must be reestablished. Public debt should be reduced. The arrogance of public officials must be curtailed. Assistance to foreign lands must be stopped or we shall bankrupt ourselves. The people should be forced to work and not depend on government for subsistence." - Cicero, 60 B.C.

                        For California police academy notes go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CABasicPolice/

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by savage4presiden
                          Should the majority rule? I think they're ruling right now although it really makes no difference. If you elect a rep. you get a dem. and vice versa. The majority should and does rule. That is precisely why we have a constitution and a bill of rights. They protect the minority from the majority rule.
                          If the majority rules, explain why we have an electorial college. The fact is America is not a democracy. We are a Republic. I'm actally surprised to hear a conservative say this. I usually have to explain this to liberals.

                          I quote Alexander Tyler:
                          "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's great civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to bondage."


                          Originally posted by savage4presiden
                          The majority rules so long as the minority is not infringed. The congress passes bills based on majority.
                          Yes, after it's passed through 3 houses, filled with people elected from our electoral collegiate. But I'm sure you already knew that. That's what turns me on about you- your attention to detail.

                          Originally posted by savage4presiden
                          When have you ever heard of a bill passing with 49% of the vote? Have we ever elected a president with 30% of the electoral vote? Of course not! Because we have majority rules.
                          No, but President's have been elected by a less than popular vote because elecorate majority voted for him. Clinton was, whether Bush was argueably another.

                          Originally posted by savage4presiden
                          Is that the kind of minority rules you want in America?
                          No. But mob rule is dangerous, and you know it. If the majority ruled how long would schools in the south have stayed segregated? How long would public and privates business been divided up according to race? If majority ruled, how much more in taxes would we be paying right now? And if the majority ruled, would we not be a socialist country right about now?

                          All say it again: Mob rule is the most dangerous thing on this planet.
                          You have no right to not be offended.-Neal Boortz

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                          • #73
                            I understandwhat you are saying about democracy vs. republic. The reason we have an electoral college to make the playing field more equal (i.e. small states with less people are equaly important as large states with more people). I agree with the quote from Alexander Tyler.

                            Back to the democracy thing. All democracy is is representitive democracy (i.e. republic) or direct democracy. Either way you still have rule of the majority. That's just a fact. If democracy could work with people going ten different ways it would not last as long as it has in America.

                            I agree that mob rule is very dangerous. That is why we have checks and balances, though. Unfortunately, they don't work all the time.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Centurion44
                              No. But mob rule is dangerous, and you know it. If the majority ruled how long would schools in the south have stayed segregated? How long would public and privates business been divided up according to race? If majority ruled, how much more in taxes would we be paying right now? And if the majority ruled, would we not be a socialist country right about now?
                              All the examples you gave were bills that were passed by congress with a majority. I hate socialism as much as you. However, I think that regardless of which majority we have, either republican or democrat, they are still taking us closer to socialism every day.

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                              • #75
                                So, what is the difference between these two besides ones an *** and one is an elephant that stomps everything??

                                Originally posted by savage4presiden
                                republican or democrat, .
                                "Respect for religion must be reestablished. Public debt should be reduced. The arrogance of public officials must be curtailed. Assistance to foreign lands must be stopped or we shall bankrupt ourselves. The people should be forced to work and not depend on government for subsistence." - Cicero, 60 B.C.

                                For California police academy notes go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CABasicPolice/

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