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  • The republicans received a mandate this week. Now we'll see if they can keep it.

    Wasn't it Ben Franklin who said, "A republic, if you can keep it."?


    A Republic, if You Can Keep It . . .
    by James D. Best

    I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

    At the close of the Constitutional Convention of 1787, Franklin was queried as he left Independence Hall on the final day of deliberation. In the notes of Dr. James McHenry, one of Maryland’s delegates to the Convention, a lady asked Dr. Franklin “Well Doctor what have we got, a republic or a monarchy.” Franklin replied, “A republic . . . if you can keep it.”

    Our Constitution created a limited representative republic. A republic is different from a democracy. In a democracy, the majority can directly make laws, while in a republic, elected representatives make laws. Basically, in a pure democracy, the majority has unlimited power, whereas in a republic, a written constitution limits the majority and provides safeguards for the individual and minorities.

    In the United States, we actually have both systems. There is no way for Americans to directly enact legislation at the national level, but half of the states allow ballot initiatives which, if passed by a majority of the voters, have the force of law.

    The Founders’ intent at the national level was a representative republic. The word democracy is not mentioned in the Constitution. Most of the Founders distrusted pure democracy. Some had been frightened by Shays Revolt and equated democracy with mob rule. Others were convinced by Madison that different factions would come together until they formed a majority, and then take advantage of those who were not members of their coalition. In fact, Madison showed that throughout history, this phenomenon had destroyed every experiment in democracy.

    John Adams wrote that “There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide,” and James Madison wrote in Federalist 10 that “Democracies have, in general, been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.” The reason pure democracies fail is that majorities learn that they can legally take property and/or liberties away from others. Those subjected to abuse can be anyone outside the majority coalition, and their minority status can be based on race, religion, wealth, political affiliation, or even which city or state they reside in. Demagogic leaders become adept at appealing to the emotions of jealousy, avarice, and entitlement. They also denigrate opponents in order to justify prejudicial actions taken by the majority. Soon, oppression of minority classes causes enough conflicts to collapse the democratic process.

    A major difference between a republic and a democracy is immediacy. The Founders wanted laws made by representatives in order to put a buffer between popular passions and legislation. In a democracy, decisions are made in the heat of the moment, while periodic elections in a republic provide a cooling off period. To a great extent, democracies are ruled by feelings, while in a republic, the rule of law governs. In a republic, politicians can take principled actions that go against the will of many of their constituents with the knowledge that they will be judged by all the actions they take during their entire term in office. Political leaders are also given time to explain the reasons for their actions.

    Of course, if an elected official does something grievously offensive, then the voters can follow the advice of Alexander Hamilton, who in Federalist 21 wrote, “The natural cure for an ill-administration, in a popular or representative constitution, is a change of men.” When the people’s will is thwarted, regular elections give them the opportunity to dismiss their representatives and appoint new ones.
    Well, they have their marching orders. Although the national republican party stayed mute, the individuals running for office didn't. All of them were against Obamacare. All of them vowed to stop Harry Reid and his crew. All of the 300+ republican bills that were stalled in the senate will now come to light and get the vote they deserve. Let Obama veto the repeal of his healthcare laws. Congress will just defund it, I hope.
    Last edited by OneAdam12; 11-08-2014, 12:04 AM.
    Pete Malloy, "The only thing black and white about this job is the car."

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    It would have been better, especially here, if the "Libertarians" realized how misguided their voting is. I am not sure why they vote for the Libertarian candidate when they will never win. If they are trying to teach Republicans a lesson then it is them that is missing the point. It will either be a Republican or a Democrat winning the race. Okay, maybe dog catcher or a smaller race like that. There were several races here in Colorado that would have been run by the Republican, but if not for the spoiler of having a Libertarian in the race. I think they need to decide who they closer affiliate with (R) or (D). I have a feeling that in many races they are liberal Libertarians and just want to play the "Gore" spoiler like Nader did with the first GW win. Will they ever learn.

    You say that Republicans have a mandate. Obama and the Dems believe they didn't get out their message. Nothing has changed, mark my words. Obama will break out his pen between now and the new congress. This and recess appointments. He will try to get his AG nominee during the Xmas break.
    Stupid has no color or race, everyone can participate.

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    • #3
      What else can I say.

      Dems reject amendment to ban Viagra for sex offenders

      Democrats killed an amendment by Republican Sen. Tom Coburn to prevent the newly created insurance exchanges from using federal money to cover Viagra and other erectile dysfunction drugs for rapists, pedophiles and other sex offenders. The amendment failed 57-42

      "The vast majority of Americans don't want their taxpayer dollars paying for this kind of drug for those kind of people," Coburn said.

      Democratic Sen. Max Baucus urged his colleagues to defeat the amendment.

      "This is a serious bill. This is a serious debate. The amendment offered by the senator from Oklahoma makes a mockery of the Senate, the debate and the American people. It is not a serious amendment. It is a crass political stunt aimed at making 30-second commercials, not public policy," he said.

      Democrats have defeated every amendment offered by Republicans so far, arguing that any change will kill the bill.
      Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=199_1...zGDbGgEr0ux.99
      Stupid has no color or race, everyone can participate.

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      • #4
        I am conservative. I have given up on the republican party but in large elections I have to agree with rand.
        I like most of what libertarian believe but the are over the top on some things. I like the tea party as well. I
        know they aren't a real party but I like the fiscal responsibility and smaller government.

        On real local election I will vote for libertarians or tea party candidates IF there is a chance for them to win. Otherwise, I have to hold my nose and vote for the candidate that my own research is for what I believe is right.

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        • #5
          Go figure, Obama is acting like the Dems won. He is going to keep on with the executive orders as long as congress will let him get away with it. The only thing he had back tracked on was taxing the 529s. The only reason he did that was because it affected the Dems too. Wait and watch if a Republican gets into the NON-BLACK house in 2016 and tries the same kinda of Congressional executive order bypass.
          Stupid has no color or race, everyone can participate.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by raygl View Post
            I am conservative. I have given up on the republican party but in large elections I have to agree with rand.
            I like most of what libertarian believe but the are over the top on some things. I like the tea party as well. I
            know they aren't a real party but I like the fiscal responsibility and smaller government.

            On real local election I will vote for libertarians or tea party candidates IF there is a chance for them to win. Otherwise, I have to hold my nose and vote for the candidate that my own research is for what I believe is right.

            Hell ya' sound like me Mr. AMX programmer guy....what you are is a conservatarian..........
            Originally posted by mookster
            Sully, usually I hafta glance over your posts cuz my brain would have issues with the imagery you portray, however with that one I get it. I agree one hundred percent with ya.
            Originally posted by CityCopDC
            I swear to god you are not human. I know a rogue VI when I see one.
            Originally posted by OfficerDotCom
            I think no one is probably happier than Sully and I that we ARE NOT the same person.(seriously thanking God for that one).
            -Frank




            Old Physicists neva' die, they just hop on a horsey and fly away inta' an infinitely massive black ho ...

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            • #7
              I do think that I am conservative. Somewhat libertarian. I do believe in right and wrong and fairness. Couse then there is the real world where it is great to strive for these ideals and do the best you can. I vote that way, not for idiots trying to buy votes with our money.

              I can't update my profile but it is now AMX guy retired. Also couldn't put my interests that includes electronics, Electronic Comm. Ham radio and now I program microcontrollers. I like this forum. Even if I type something a little dumb these guys seem to know I like LE and like them around.

              I think following this forum you actually are a professor of electronic Comm. It is sometimes hard to read your post, like reading frequency domain on an oscilloscope.

              Give trig some oats. don't ride him too hard.

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