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  • Another one bites the dust!...

    Start of the weekend with some good news...

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110604/...as/as_pakistan

    Al-Qaida militant killed in US strike in Pakistan


    By ISHTIAQ MEHSUD, Associated Press Ishtiaq Mehsud, Associated Press – 42 mins ago

    DERA ISMAIL KHAN, Pakistan – A top al-Qaida commander and possible replacement for Osama bin Laden was killed in an American drone-fired missile strike close to the Afghan border, a fax from the militant group he heads and a Pakistani intelligence official said Saturday.

    Ilyas Kashmiri's apparent death is another blow to al-Qaida just over a month after bin Laden was killed by American commandos in a northwest Pakistani army town. Described by U.S. officials as al-Qaida's military operations chief in Pakistan, the 47-year-old Pakistani was one of five most-wanted militant leaders in the country, accused of a string of bloody attacks in South Asia, including the 2008 Mumbai massacre, as well as aiding plots in the West.

    His death was not confirmed publicly by the United States or Pakistani officials. Verifying who has been killed in the drone strikes is difficult. Initial reports have turned out to be wrong in the past, including one in September 2009 that said Kashmiri had been killed. Sometimes they are never formally denied or confirmed by authorities here or in the United States.

    But a fax from the militant group he was heading — Harakat-ul-Jihad al-Islami's feared "313 Brigade" — confirmed Kashmiri was "martyred" in the strike at 11:15 p.m. Friday in South Waziristan tribal region. It was sent to journalists in Peshawar.

    "God willing, America, which is the 'pharaoh' of this, will soon see a revenge attack, and our real target is America," it said. The statement was handwritten written on a white page bearing name of the group, which has not previously communicated with the media.

    The Pakistani official also said Kashmiri was among nine militants killed in the strike. He spoke on condition of anonymity in line with his agency's policy. On Friday night, officials said several missiles hit a compound. The official Saturday said the men were meeting in an apple orchard near the house when the missiles hit.

    Kashmiri's name was on a list of militants that the United States and Pakistan recently agreed to jointly target, officials have said. The successful strike could help repair ties between the two countries that were badly damaged by the unilateral American raid, especially if Islamabad helped provide intelligence leading up to the attack.

    Said to be blind in one eye and missing a finger, Kashmiri was one of the country's most accomplished — and vicious — militants. He was so close to al-Qaida's central command that he had been mentioned as a contender for replacing bin Laden, though many analysts thought the fact that he was not an Arab meant he was unlikely to get the post.

    Indian officials have alleged he was involved in the 2008 Mumbai siege that killed more than 160 people. He has also been named a defendant in an American court over a planned attack on a Danish newspaper that published cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad in 2005.

    In an ongoing terror trial in Chicago, testimony from an American-Pakistani militant has alleged that Kashmiri helped plan the Mumbai siege and wanted to attack U.S. defense contractor Lockheed Martin. Kashmiri had been angry over U.S. drone attacks inside Pakistan and wanted to target the company, David Coleman Headley testified.

    Kashmiri has most recently been linked to last month's 18-hour assault on a naval base in Karachi. He is also accused of masterminding several bloody raids on Pakistan police and intelligence buildings in 2009 and 2010, as well as a failed assassination attempt against then-President Pervez Musharraf in 2003.

    The U.S Department of State says he organized a 2006 suicide bombing against the U.S. consulate in Karachi that killed four people, including an American diplomat.

    American drones began firing missiles at al-Qaida and Taliban targets along the border in 2005, but the attacks picked up pace in 2008 and have risen in frequency ever since. Pakistani army officers and politicians publicly protest them, too weak to admit to working with the ever unpopular America in targeting fellow Pakistanis, but the country's intelligence agencies have been known to occasionally provide targeting information.

    Opposition to the strikes grew this year after a CIA contractor shot and killed two Pakistanis in the street, triggering ever more intense anti-American anger. After the bin Laden raid, which was seen by many here as an outrageous violation of the country's sovereignty, the parliament issued a declaration calling for the attacks to end.

    Pakistani leaders were not immediately available for comment on Friday's attack. Kashmiri was accused of killing many Pakistanis, including police and army officers, so their public reaction may be muted.

    The United States does not acknowledge the CIA-run program, though its officials have confirmed the death of high-value targets before, including the head of the Pakistani Taliban, Baitullah Mehsud, in 2009 — a strike welcomed by many Pakistan officials because he too was a sworn enemy of the country.

    Washington says the strikes are accurately killing militants and are disrupting plots against the West as well as planned attacks on U.S. troops in Afghanistan.







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    Obama screwing up again?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by sigcopper View Post
      Obama screwing up again?
      No, he did good this time.

      Wait.....

      Did I just say that?
      "Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince" - Unknown Author
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      • #4
        Originally posted by sigcopper View Post
        Obama screwing up again?
        No, you're right.....he's followed Bush's playbook and laying of ALL the groundwork (despite the impediments he created when a Senator, i.e. "the surge won't work and not funding it") almost to the T ....and I'm happy he's seen the light

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        • #5
          Can't we just enjoy the fact that this a-hole is dead?

          Nobody wins here but America. Not Republicans. Not Democrats. Americans.
          Stay safe out there

          "Cancel that central, its a moose"

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          • #6
            Don't know if you've noticed, but the country is pretty polarized. Obama the great uniter notwithstanding. And don't think folks are going to forget the overwhelming level of criticism hurled at Bush's national security policies now being embraced by the same people. No, no...hypocracy has a way of exploding in a candidate's face. I'm so looking forward to this time next year.

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            • #7
              Thank God for Obama on this issue. I remember on the campaign trail, he flat out said that he would go into Pakistan if he knew certain people were there, while McCain said he would not. So If McCain were President Bin Laden would still be alive, and possibly this guy as well. McCain called him naive for saying he would go into Pakistan, and spoke about what a good ally Pakistan was to us, and so did many on this forum. Funny how the tables have turned.
              "The deepest human defeat suffered by human beings is constituted by the difference between what one was capable of becoming and what one has in fact become."

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              • #8
                If you liked Bush's FP, then what's not to like about Obama's? Maybe Libya.

                If you didn't like Bush's FP and now you like Obama's FP, you're a partisian hack.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mjhoyt27 View Post
                  Thank God for Obama on this issue. I remember on the campaign trail, he flat out said that he would go into Pakistan if he knew certain people were there, while McCain said he would not. So If McCain were President Bin Laden would still be alive, and possibly this guy as well. McCain called him naive for saying he would go into Pakistan, and spoke about what a good ally Pakistan was to us, and so did many on this forum. Funny how the tables have turned.
                  Yea, and had McCain done it, the liberal press would've crucified him or any other Republican for having violated a sovereign nation's border, which is an act of war. But not one f'ing peep out of the hypo liberal press on this or anything he does. That's ok, Barry's not going to get his second term.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by EmmaPeel View Post
                    Don't know if you've noticed, but the country is pretty polarized.
                    Oh I have noticed. It is the single biggest thing that bothers me in politics. I think it is unhealthy for the country. That is just me though.
                    Stay safe out there

                    "Cancel that central, its a moose"

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by EmmaPeel View Post
                      Yea, and had McCain done it, the liberal press would've crucified him or any other Republican for having violated a sovereign nation's border, which is an act of war. But not one f'ing peep out of the hypo liberal press on this or anything he does. That's ok, Barry's not going to get his second term.
                      With all due respect to your psychic abilities, what you typed means nothing. Fact is, Person A (in this case Obama) was correct and did what he said he would, and person B (right wing of this country) was wrong on the issue. N
                      "The deepest human defeat suffered by human beings is constituted by the difference between what one was capable of becoming and what one has in fact become."

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                      • #12
                        What they said is you wouldn't invade a soverign nation without their permission because it's an act of war. Like I said, the press would've crucified THEM. But not a peep if it's Obama. All your proving is what any thinking citizen already knows....which is what a bunch of hypocrites the mainstream press is. And with all due respect to your psychic abilities, you have no idea what McCain would've actually done. All McCain would've had to do is tell at least one person in the Pakistan govt, making it official they got permission. Which is probably what Obama did. But that's not something presidents advertise.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by EmmaPeel View Post
                          What they said is you wouldn't invade a soverign nation without their permission because it's an act of war. Like I said, the press would've crucified THEM. But not a peep if it's Obama. All your proving is what any thinking citizen already knows....which is what a bunch of hypocrites the mainstream press is. And with all due respect to your psychic abilities, you have no idea what McCain would've actually done. All McCain would've had to do is tell at least one person in the Pakistan govt, making it official they got permission. Which is probably what Obama did. But that's not something presidents advertise.
                          I don't have to use my psychic abilities, when McCain said what he would do. Your next sentence doesn't make sense either, telling a country something is not the same as getting permission from them. If I were to call you on the phone and say "I'm going to take your car for a spin", that does not equate to you giving me permission to drive it. You could also tell me no. And no, I'm sure Obama didn't tell anyone, as the secret would've gotten out, in case you can't put 2 and 2 together it is clear OBL had some help from the Pakistanis
                          "The deepest human defeat suffered by human beings is constituted by the difference between what one was capable of becoming and what one has in fact become."

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by mjhoyt27 View Post
                            I don't have to use my psychic abilities, when McCain said what he would do. Your next sentence doesn't make sense either, telling a country something is not the same as getting permission from them. If I were to call you on the phone and say "I'm going to take your car for a spin", that does not equate to you giving me permission to drive it. You could also tell me no. And no, I'm sure Obama didn't tell anyone, as the secret would've gotten out, in case you can't put 2 and 2 together it is clear OBL had some help from the Pakistanis
                            Umm, you have so little knowledge about how foreign policy works, mj....I hope you're not a poli sci major.

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                            • #15
                              Besides your boy has flip flopped on almost everything he said he was going to do in the national defense arena. I've had enough fun for the day watching black helos swoop your old buddy dlo away...going to bed now....later.

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