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  • Donald Frump’s latest scandal: draft-dodging

    Yesterday, we reported on the growing number of accusations being lobbed at Donald Trump.

    And now, it seems, another one can be added to the list. This week, Trump told local Fox hosts at "Good Day New York" that he didn't serve in Vietnam because he "got lucky" with his draft lottery number.

    But The Smoking Gun uncovered documents that say otherwise.

    "Selective Service records reveal that Trump, the fortunate son of a multimillionaire real estate baron, took repeated steps to avoid serving in Vietnam," the website reported. Documents obtained by the Smoking Gun via a records request from the National Archives show that Trump received four student deferments and then a medical deferment following his graduation from Wharton.

    The documentary trail differs sharply from what Trump said during his "Good Day New York" interview Tuesday.

    When asked how he avoided service in Vietnam, Trump replied:
    Well, I actually got lucky because I had a very high draft number... I was sitting in college, watching. I was going to the Wharton School of Finance and I was watching as they did the draft numbers and I got a very, very high number and those numbers [they] never got up to.
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thetic...-draft-dodging
    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley
    Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. -- Albert Einstein

  • #2
    The document looks like it contains several layers.......

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    • #3
      Trump is a buffoon

      http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donal...ry?id=13472355

      Donald Trump Blames China for Fact That Much of His Gear is 'Made in China'
      PHOTO: A dress shirt from the Donald Trump clothing line which bears the Trump name shows a tag stating it was manufactured in China.
      Donald Trump Products: Made in China
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      By JOEL SIEGEL
      April 28, 2011

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      Donald Trump, who has repeatedly accused China of stealing manufacturing jobs from the U.S., acknowledged today that an array of Trump-branded clothes, accessories and other products are made in China.

      The real estate and casino mogul, who is considering a run for the Republican presidential nomination, blamed China for the fact that Trump ties, Trump cufflinks and even Trump teddy bears come with a "Made in China" label.

      "The answer is very simple: Because of the fact that China so manipulates their currency it makes it almost impossible for American companies to compete," Trump told ABC News.

      "You see it with all of the items you are talking about. You also see it with building products. If it continues this way, America won't have any jobs, except for taking care of the elderly."

      Asked if he ever looked at having his Trump products manufactured in the U.S., Trump said, "Always do. There are very few companies that do it because they can't compete with the manipulation."
      PHOTO: A dress shirt from the Donald Trump clothing line which bears the Trump name shows a tag stating it was manufactured in China.
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      PHOTO: A dress shirt from the Donald Trump clothing line which bears the Trump name shows a tag stating it was manufactured in China.
      Deana Mitchel/ABC; Getty Images
      A dress shirt from the Donald Trump clothing line which bears the Trump name shows a tag stating it was manufactured in China.
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      Trump has made the flow of U.S. jobs overseas, especially to China, as much a centerpiece of his exploratory campaign for president as his questions about whether President Obama was born in America, saying, "The problem with our country is that we don't make anything anymore."

      Trump hammered at China again Wednesday during a visit to New Hampshire. "China is raping this country," Trump told employees at Wilcox Industries, which makes tactical equipment for U.S. military forces.

      "When this country became great was the industrial revolution," said Trump, a Republican. "We are now the opposite of the industrial revolution, and pretty soon we are going to fall off a cliff."

      Donald Trump Gear Is Often Made in China

      But visitors to the Trump Store in the lobby of the Trump Tower on Fifth Avenue in New York City, or to the displays of Trump clothing at Macy's in New York's Herald Square, would be hard-pressed to find much labeled "Made in the U.S.A."

      At the same time Trump was speaking in New Hampshire, his Trump Store was contributing to the growth of Chinese manufacturing, arguably at the expense of American workers, selling $80 Trump-branded cotton sweaters and $70 Trump-branded warm-up tops, all made in China. Also available with the made in China tag: golf hats stamped with the Trump crest and stuffed animals.

      Visitors also could buy leather made-in-China belts priced at $45 that are advertised as "So soft, it feels like a million bucks." And in the display case were neat stacks of colorful Trump-branded polo shirts that would be perfect wear for one of Trump's golf courses. The shirts, which sell for $70, were not made in China, but nearby, in Korea and Thailand.

      Among the few items made in the U.S.A.: Trump chocolate bars, books, teas and Christmas tree ornaments, priced at $15 each.

      As first reported by Salon.com, the Trump wear sold in Macy's, part of the Donald J. Trump Signature Collection, is manufactured overseas, including ties in more than 50 different styles and colors (all made in China), suits (made in Mexico and Vietnam), and dress shirts (five styles made in China).

      All the Trump tie pins ($22) and tie clips ($28) are labeled as "Made in China," as are the cufflinks ($35 to $45 a pair) and even the boxes containing them.

      Although many Chinese-made products are sold under the Trump name, Trump repeatedly has complained about the quality of Chinese-made goods as compared to American products. "Our companies make a better product, that's very important to know. We make a better product," he told a major gathering of conservative activists, the Conservative Political Action Conference, in Washington in February.
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      Trump argues that China's "currency manipulation" artificially depresses the cost of goods manufactured there, making it hard for American-based manufacturers to compete.

      Adding to the outrage, in Trump's view, is that China is using its windfall to buy U.S. debt. He says the U.S. should slap heavy taxes on imported Chinese goods, to jack up their prices.

      "Hey look, I know lots of folks in China, they think we are the dumbest son of a bitches in the world, all right?" he said earlier this year. "They are laughing at us behind our backs, taking money out and then they loan it to us."

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      • #4
        http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...ucus&seid=auto

        Rand Paul Questions Trump’s Republican Credentials
        By JEFF ZELENY

        CONCORD, N.H. – Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky, opened a breakfast speech here Thursday before the Merrimack County Republican Committee with a new demand for proof – not of President Obama’s citizenship, but of Donald Trump’s Republican credentials.

        “I’ve come to New Hampshire today because I’m very concerned,” Mr. Paul said. “I want to see the original long-form certificate of Donald Trump’s Republican registration.”

        As a bit of laughter erupted in the room, he added, “Seriously, don’t you think we need to see that?”

        One day after Mr. Obama released his long-form birth certificate from the State of Hawaii – a move that was followed by Mr. Trump’s claim during a visit to New Hampshire that he believes that he deserves credit for the president’s decision – Mr. Paul sought to change the subject. He gently urged Republicans to take notice that Mr. Trump has contributed money to Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, the majority leader, and many other Democrats.

        “I’m going to believe it when I see his embossed seal to his Republican registration,” said Mr. Paul, a rising figure in the Republican Party who is visiting New Hampshire this week during the Congressional recess. He spoke with a smile, but his words marked one of the first times that a leading Republican has challenged Mr. Trump’s ties to the party.

        In recent months, Mr. Paul had talked openly about considering jumping into the Republican presidential race, but he decided against it after his father, Representative Ron Paul of Texas, opened an exploratory committee this week. In a brief speech here on Thursday, he did not promote his father’s candidacy, but he implored Republicans in New Hampshire, the first primary state, to take seriously their task of vetting the party’s field of presidential candidates.

        “Let’s look to Republicans who not only talk the talk, but walk the walk,” Mr. Paul said, adding that the country’s fiscal condition is the chief concern. “If we find the right candidate, I see no reason why we can’t win in 2012.”

        While most Republicans have watched Mr. Trump’s flirtations with the presidential campaign from afar, choosing not to weigh in on his claims, Mr. Paul broke that trend here on Thursday. In an interview with reporters after his breakfast appearance, he said he was only partially joking about seeing Mr. Trump’s Republican registration.

        “The serious part of what I was saying was that it’s going to be hard for him to explain giving $4,800 to Harry Reid in the last cycle and giving $24,000 to Charlie Rangel,” Mr. Paul said, referring to the longtime New York Democratic congressman. He said Mr. Trump’s appeal to the Tea Party movement would erode once those contributions become well known.

        Mr. Paul, whose primary election last spring was among the first examples of the influence of the Tea Party movement, also questioned the business acumen of Mr. Trump and his claim that he would lower gas prices by strongarming other countries.

        “He’s always complaining about the president’s education. What economic school teaches you that you can have a bully for a president who sets the prices by just telling countries what price they should charge?” Mr. Paul said. “That to me shows an economic simplicity that really may not be equivalent to the stature of being president.”

        Mr. Trump said he would make a decision about his political plans before June.

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        • #5
          Paul (both of them) is as big of an idiot as Trump is....

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bearcat357 View Post
            Paul (both of them) is as big of an idiot as Trump is....
            I am no fan of Rand Paul but the bolded point that he made is a really good one. Trump acts as if he is an economic genius yet advocates such hare-brained schemes as forcing countries to lower oil prices or putting protectionist tariffs on impotted goods.

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            • #7
              Paul and his Daddy are loudmouths....

              Daddy is going to run and has no chance in hell in winning do to his wacky ideas and his age.....and is going to end up costing the GOP the election......

              Same thing if Hair Club for Men runs.......

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Bearcat357 View Post
                Paul and his Daddy are loudmouths....

                Daddy is going to run and has no chance in hell in winning do to his wacky ideas and his age.....and is going to end up costing the GOP the election......

                Same thing if Hair Club for Men runs.......
                Ron Paul won't win the nomination so I doubt that his bid will hurt the GOP in any way whatsoever.

                Trump's clown show on the other hand could hurt the image of the GOP.... what should be troubling to the GOP right now is that they don't even have a strong candidate who can compete with Trump... if they fielded an actual strong candidate Trump would quickly return to irrelevance.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BigPat View Post
                  Ron Paul won't win the nomination so I doubt that his bid will hurt the GOP in any way whatsoever.

                  Trump's clown show on the other hand could hurt the image of the GOP.... what should be troubling to the GOP right now is that they don't even have a strong candidate who can compete with Trump... if they fielded an actual strong candidate Trump would quickly return to irrelevance.
                  Paul still draws a lot of money from folks due to his kooky ideas......

                  Trump....meh.... Hell, you never know.... We had more people watching some silly assed wedding on TV than will be watching the Shuttle when it finally goes up.... We've got a couple of idiots named "The Situation" and "Snookie" that are the highest rated shows on TV....plus that Dancing with Stars and Idol garbage..... Plus Trump's show....

                  Don't kid yourself..... the hard cores will vote party lines no matter who is there..... You toss Trump in and all the Middles and Indpendants might just elect the idiot........especially if gas prices stay high and the job market sucks.... like now.....

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                  • #10
                    Strangely missing from the article was his lottery number. What was it?
                    "Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince" - Unknown Author
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by FNA209 View Post
                      Strangely missing from the article was his lottery number. What was it?
                      I read 2-3 other stories that said he got an educational deferal..... And he was DQ'd based on medical once he graduated school..... No idea what the DQ was for......

                      So, even if he had a number....no need since he was a Med DQ.....

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Bearcat357 View Post
                        Paul (both of them) is as big of an idiot as Trump is....
                        Perhaps, but they are more honest and personable.
                        Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley
                        Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. -- Albert Einstein

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DAL View Post
                          Perhaps, but they are more honest and personable.
                          I haven't met sonny....but I've met Daddy... Daddy has a crazy look in his eyes... He's nuts...... I've seen the same look in nuts I have' checked in on 96 hour holds.......

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Bearcat357 View Post
                            I read 2-3 other stories that said he got an educational deferal..... And he was DQ'd based on medical once he graduated school..... No idea what the DQ was for......

                            So, even if he had a number....no need since he was a Med DQ.....
                            True. But he could have been a 1-Y rather than 4-F. Regardless, his number,if known, would really be the end of the discussion. For instance, my number was 362. There would had to have been a war on a massive scale before they would have gotten that high.
                            "Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince" - Unknown Author
                            ______________________________________________

                            "That government is best which governs the least, because its people discipline themselves." - Thomas Jefferson
                            ______________________________________________

                            “There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt.” - John Adams

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