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    GOP sweep: Big governor victories in Virginia, NJ

    By LIZ SIDOTI, AP National Political Writer Liz Sidoti, Ap National Political Writer – 4 mins ago
    WASHINGTON – Republicans surged to victory in governor's races in Virginia and New Jersey on Tuesday, wresting control from Democrats in both states as independents who swept Barack Obama to a historic 2008 victory broke big for the GOP. It was a troubling sign for the president and his party heading into an important midterm election year.

    Conservative Republican Bob McDonnell's victory in the Virginia governor's race over Democrat R. Creigh Deeds and moderate Republican Chris Christie's ouster of unpopular New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine was a double-barreled triumph for a party looking to rebuild after being booted from power in national elections in 2006 and 2008.

    The outcomes were sure to feed discussion about the state of the electorate, the status of the diverse coalition that sent Obama to the White House and the limits of the president's influence — on the party's base of support and on moderate current lawmakers he needs to advance his legislative priorities.

    His signature issue of health care reform was dealt a blow hours before polls closed when Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid signaled that Congress may not complete health care legislation this year, missing Obama's deadline and pushing debate into a congressional election year.

    Elsewhere on Tuesday, Maine voters weighed in on same-sex marriage in a closely watched initiative, and New York and California picked congressmen for two vacant seats. A slew of cities selected mayors, and Ohio voted on allowing casinos.

    The president had personally campaigned for Deeds and Corzine, seeking to ensure that independents and base voters alike turned out even if he wasn't on the ballot. Thus, the losses were blots on Obama's political standing to a certain degree and suggested potential problems ahead as he seeks to achieve his policy goals, protect Democratic majorities in Congress and expand his party's grip on governors' seats next fall.

    Interviews with voters leaving polling stations in both states were filled with reasons for Democrats to be concerned and for Republicans to be optimistic, particularly about independents — the crown jewel of elections because they often determine outcomes.

    Independents were a critical part Obama's victory in Virginia, New Jersey and across the country. But after more than a year of recession, they fled from Democrats in the two states, where the economy trumped all.

    The Associated Press exit polls showed that nearly a third of voters in Virginia described themselves as independents, and nearly as many in New Jersey did. They preferred McDonnell by almost a 2-1 margin over Deeds in Virginia, and Christie over Corzine by a similar margin.

    Last year, independents split between Obama and Republican John McCain in both states.

    In Virginia, McDonnell won by big margins in rapidly growing, far-flung Washington, D.C., suburbs — places like Loudoun and Prince William counties — that Republicans historically have won but where Obama prevailed last fall by winning over independents and swing voters. Republicans swept all three statewide Virginia offices up for election: governor, lieutenant governor and attorney general.

    "Bob McDonnell's victory gives Republicans tremendous momentum heading into 2010," declared Haley Barbour, chairman of the Republican Governors Association. "His focus on ideas and pocketbook issues will serve as a model for Republicans running next year."

    Said Tim Kaine, the Democratic National Committee chairman and the term-limited Virginia governor: "We are disappointed."

    In both states, the surveys also suggested the Democrats had difficulty turning out their base, including the large numbers of first-time minority and youth voters whom Obama attracted. The Virginia electorate was whiter in 2009 than it was in 2008, when blacks and Hispanics voted in droves to elect the country's first black president.

    Democratic victories in both Virginia, a new swing state, and New Jersey, a Democratic stronghold, in 2005 preceded big Democratic years nationally in 2006 and 2008.

    Tuesday's impact on Obama's popularity and on the 2010 elections could easily be overstated. Voters are often focused on local issues and local personalities.

    Yet, national issues, like the recession, were clearly a factor, with voter attitudes shaped to some degree by how people feel about the state of their nation — and their place in it.

    And, voter attitudes — particularly among independents — could bode ill for Democrats in moderate districts and in swing states like Ohio, Colorado and Nevada, should they remain unchanged when the party seeks to defend its turf next fall. In 2010, most governors, a third of the Senate and all members in the House will be on ballots.

    It's also difficult to separate Obama from the outcomes after he devoted a significant chunk of time working to persuade voters to elect Deeds in Virginia and re-elect Corzine in New Jersey.

    More than four in 10 voters in Virginia said their view of Obama factored into their choice on Tuesday, and those voters roughly split between expressing support and opposition for the president. People who said they disapprove of Obama's job performance voted overwhelmingly Republican, and those who approve of the president favored Deeds, the Democrat.

    The Obama factor was similar in New Jersey, though there were slightly more voters who said the president did not factor into their choice.

    Obama also spent energy trying to ensure the Democrats would pick up the GOP-held vacant 23rd Congressional District seat in New York, where Democrat Bill Owens faced conservative Doug Hoffman.

    That's the race that highlighted fissures in the Republican Party between conservatives and moderates, illustrating problems the GOP could have in capitalizing on any discontent with Obama and Democrats that Tuesday's results may show.



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    I am pleased to hear about New Jersey. Virginia was no surprise.

    Currently, the Democrat candidate is winning the Congressional race in New York where the moderate Republican was forced out by the Fox News crowd. Perhaps they should have listened to Newt Gingrich. Owens has a 49-45% with 63% of the precincts reporting.
    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley
    Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. -- Albert Einstein

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    • #3
      And so begins the decline and fall of the Obamanation....
      Originally posted by kontemplerande
      Without Germany, you would not have won World War 2.

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      • #4
        I just got off the phone. I left a message at the republican national committee saying I am pleased at the results of the VA and NJ elections but disappointed with the NY congressional results.

        I further stated that had the party picked a real republican instead of a RINO our party most likely would have won the NY race.

        I also reminded them that we live in historic times with a radical marxist president surrounded by radical marxist helpers and a crazy woman at the helm of congress who are all working hard to destroy the foundations which were so brilliantly laid by the founders of this great nation.

        I challenged them to get their act together because the republican party is this country's last best hope for saving the United States and we can't afford to make many more stupid mistakes like the NY mistake during these perilous times.
        Jubilant Patriotic Republican

        America gave Obama the benefit of the doubt when they elected him. Obama is now giving America the doubt of the benefit of his governance......Change you can bereave in!..JPR

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        • #5
          CNN has declared Owens, the Democrat, the winner. This means that there will be one more Democrat, and one less Republican, in the House of Representatives. This will help Pelosi. Sad as it may seem, I think Obama is a moderating force when it comes to dealing with the House.

          Owens' victory is, to some extent, a rebuff to Sarah Palin and Tim Pawlenty, as well as the FoxNews cabal.
          Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley
          Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. -- Albert Einstein

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          • #6
            I don't waste my time on calls to the Republican Party. They will say whatever they think it takes to get my money, and they are not getting it.

            At least the Democrats have the sense not to call.

            If the California Republican Party nominates a conservative for governor, he will not stand a chance.
            Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley
            Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. -- Albert Einstein

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            • #7
              Originally posted by DAL View Post

              Owens' victory is, to some extent, a rebuff to Sarah Palin and Tim Pawlenty, as well as the FoxNews cabal.


              Dream on.....

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              • #8
                Originally posted by DAL View Post
                .......Owens' victory is, to some extent, a rebuff to Sarah Palin and Tim Pawlenty, as well as the FoxNews cabal.
                Nope, nada. Owens would have lost if it weren't for the stupid decision of the Rep party to run with a RINO candidate. The 3 way ticket is what screwed up that race.

                As it is written - a house divided shall not stand..... And it didn't.
                Jubilant Patriotic Republican

                America gave Obama the benefit of the doubt when they elected him. Obama is now giving America the doubt of the benefit of his governance......Change you can bereave in!..JPR

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DAL View Post
                  I don't waste my time on calls to the Republican Party. They will say whatever they think it takes to get my money, and they are not getting it.
                  You may have a point there, however, I still believed I should call and let them know what I think. Who knows, maybe if a million reps did the same thing they might actually pay attention.


                  Originally posted by DAL View Post
                  If the California Republican Party nominates a conservative for governor, he will not stand a chance.
                  Duh.....Ya think?.......Nobody they nominate will win. California doesn't elect Republican governors any more. The only reason the Governator got elected was because the stoned liberals liked his movies and his first opponent, the terminatee, was an inept dork ( Gray Davis) that caused power to be shut off at our houses on a regular basis.
                  Jubilant Patriotic Republican

                  America gave Obama the benefit of the doubt when they elected him. Obama is now giving America the doubt of the benefit of his governance......Change you can bereave in!..JPR

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                  • #10
                    Where's the dancing banana? I cast my vote about 7:00pm last night and watched the race. Happy to see Corzine lost. I voted for Christie and am hopeful that he does some good stuff. The property taxes here are through the roof. Also, I'm very hopeful, but doubtful, that Christie will do away w/ Corzine's one handgun a month law that was supposed to go into effect this Jan. I'm dreaming here, but hopeful that he does away w/ NJ's AWB, but that would be really pushing things.... we'll see. The downside is the Dem's still have the majority in the State Assembly and Senate.

                    Was very surprised to see Bergen County (where I reside) came in at 49% for Christie and 48% for Corzine. Bergen County is very Dem.

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                    • #11
                      I think the 2010 elections will be a much better indicator, we'll see if the GOP wants to put forth ideas or just pick at Obama. In 1994 the GOP actually ran a a platform of ideas and they made huge gains in Congress. If they do that instead of simply campaigning on the premise of blocking all of Obama's polices, then they might actually do well.

                      I hope that if the Democrats do lose a lot of races in 2010 that at least the dead weight of teh party like Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, and Nancy Pelosi lose their seats. It never seems to work that way though.

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                      • #12
                        Im posting a page of the playbook the *******s use to include current Congress and The President. This is why people are running back to the Conservative parties:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward-Piven_Strategy
                        "Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. The MARINES don't have that problem." ....Ronald Reagan

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                        • #13
                          Hoffman was the kind of candidate that the ultraconservative wing of the Republican Party supports, and he lost in what amounted to a head-to-head contest. I don't think he would have done any better with the Republican label. A Republican less liberal than Scozzafava but less conservative than Hoffman would have won.
                          Last edited by DAL; 11-04-2009, 10:20 AM.
                          Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley
                          Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. -- Albert Einstein

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                          • #14
                            Voters in California are turning fiscally conservative again. They will be more open to Republican candidates for state-wide office, but the Republicans' emphasis on socially conservative positions, especially abortion, drives away many voters.
                            Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley
                            Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. -- Albert Einstein

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                            • #15
                              Don't forget immagration DAL, that key isssue is huge in California...
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