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  • #16
    Originally posted by Rifleguy View Post
    And I'd say that the majority of servicemembers don't think highly of Obama and did not vote for him. Just because they'll follow his orders does not mean they condone him or his policies. Its no different then when Clinton was in office.
    It was no different under Clinton than when Carter was President. I served under both- they were pretty much despised by the rank-and-file. At least among the folks I served with. I imagine the current crop of military folks aren't exactly impressed with the current guy.

    Originally posted by DAL View Post
    My remark that "Obama hates his country and the military" was not directed at you. Rather, it is a summary of what seems to be the prevailing view of those who post in this portion of the forum. I think that he mostly believes he is doing the right thing, although much of what he does is for political benefit (not surprisingly).
    Him doing what he thinks is the right thing does not absolve him of the damage he is doing to the country. The best intentions when misguided are still mistakes.

    As to the continuation of so-called warrantless wiretaps:

    Originally posted by LAschoolCop View Post
    Warrantless wiretaps work!....if you have nothing to hide then dont worry about it!
    I would +1 you as that was always my thoughts on that part of the Patriot Act. But while I trusted the Bush administration to use them wisely, I don’t trust the current regime to do so. Still, I was more-or-less in favor of the general guidelines of the Patriot Act. I did have reservations of how it could be misused but, at the time, I was willing to take a chance. Today, given the many despicable radical anti-Americans in the current administration, I believe my fears may come to pass.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by yellowreef View Post
      Really? I must have read the wrong articles then, all I read was criticism.
      From a lawyer representing a small group. Where's the media outcry? I haven't even seen it on the mainstream news.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by tony.o View Post
        Those weren't campaign promises, they were lies.
        Of course it's different now, he's in charge and doesn't want anything to threaten his power. Has nothing to do with liking the military, it's unique culture or it's real reason for existing.
        Perhaps he wasn't privy to the information being obtained? Far as I know and please correct me.....folks RUNNING for POTUS aren't not given briefings on top secret or current operations around world. I'm sure he didn't agree with things BEFORE but after being brought up to speed his mind may have changed.
        It doesn't matter what the miitary thinks of him, they will follow the orders.

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