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    It seems a New Zealander blogger has decided to research Obama and his ties to various people. Some interesting information in his blog for those of you interested.

    http://newzeal.blogspot.com/


    He sure comes up with a lot of Communist, Socialist, and other such ties.

    And Obama did tell us to judge him by the people who surround him.
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  • #2
    He's obviously a racist.

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    • #3
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      • #4
        Originally posted by FNA209 View Post
        It seems a New Zealander blogger has decided to research Obama and his ties to various people. Some interesting information in his blog for those of you interested.

        http://newzeal.blogspot.com/


        He sure comes up with a lot of Communist, Socialist, and other such ties.

        And Obama did tell us to judge him by the people who surround him.
        And the "ties" are nothing but lame, half-assed attempts at guilt by association. Is that the best he can come up with?

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        • #5
          Well Pat, we can also look at his appointments.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by BigPat View Post

            And the "ties" are nothing but lame, half-assed attempts at guilt by association. Is that the best he can come up with?
            I haven't researched all of his information. I just posted the blog as a source of information. I think some of what he has posted is nebulous at best, but I can also see some connections that warrant review.

            Since you have already discounted all of that information, could you point us to a blog or something that shows the opposing views?

            Or if you are up to it, feel free to research his claims and show us how his research is flawed. We seek knowledge. Feed us.

            But by just discounting his efforts out-of-hand with no research of your own and not showing any rebuttals, you only enhance the impact of his information.
            "Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince" - Unknown Author
            ______________________________________________

            "That government is best which governs the least, because its people discipline themselves." - Thomas Jefferson
            ______________________________________________

            “There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt.” - John Adams

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            • #7
              Lol Feed Me, Feed Me!!!!!!!
              Be safe pulling back into the thread...
              http://infidelswithhonor.com/

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              • #8
                Originally posted by FNA209 View Post
                I haven't researched all of his information. I just posted the blog as a source of information. I think some of what he has posted is nebulous at best, but I can also see some connections that warrant review.

                Since you have already discounted all of that information, could you point us to a blog or something that shows the opposing views?

                Or if you are up to it, feel free to research his claims and show us how his research is flawed. We seek knowledge. Feed us.

                But by just discounting his efforts out-of-hand with no research of your own and not showing any rebuttals, you only enhance the impact of his information.
                Sir, there is nothing there to research or rebut. The postings that I read on that blog (I am not claiming that I read the entire thing of course) were nothing more then attempts to make an argument for guilt by association. Any argument of that type is logically flawed.

                http://www.fallacyfiles.org/guiltbya.html

                To top it off most of the associations are tenuous at best.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BigPat View Post
                  Sir, there is nothing there to research or rebut. The postings that I read on that blog (I am not claiming that I read the entire thing of course) were nothing more then attempts to make an argument for guilt by association. Any argument of that type is logically flawed.

                  http://www.fallacyfiles.org/guiltbya.html

                  To top it off most of the associations are tenuous at best.
                  That defense could work if it was just one or two, but all the people he associates with? No, not buying that and you know better.
                  His mentors and friends are all self described socialists and communists or America haters. This information is out there, even though he's done his best to hide it, with the assistance of the disgraceful media. The worst thing about it is that people like you just refuse to acknowledge it.
                  The liberal politician has the only job where they go to the office to work for everyone but those who pay their salary.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tony.o View Post
                    That defense could work if it was just one or two, but all the people he associates with? No, not buying that and you know better.
                    His mentors and friends are all self described socialists and communists or America haters. This information is out there, even though he's done his best to hide it, with the assistance of the disgraceful media. The worst thing about it is that people like you just refuse to acknowledge it.
                    This is just a large version of 6 steps to kevin bacon game.

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                    • #11
                      Obama is a socialist.


                      I don't need quotes or the opinions of people who claim to be more intelligent than my peers to tell me that.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ChevySSP View Post
                        Obama is a socialist.

                        I guess that depends on which definition of "socialist" you are using....

                        And furthermore if the current president is indeed a "socialist" then does that now make the U.S.A. a "socialist" country?

                        Now there's a question.....

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BigPat View Post
                          Sir, there is nothing there to research or rebut. The postings that I read on that blog (I am not claiming that I read the entire thing of course) were nothing more then attempts to make an argument for guilt by association. Any argument of that type is logically flawed.

                          http://www.fallacyfiles.org/guiltbya.html

                          To top it off most of the associations are tenuous at best.
                          You're missing the point and a basic tenant in intel collection and analysis. People typically seek out those who are like themselves. You see it in all areas of society. I didn't feel like reading the entire blog so just a quick perusal of the first page resulted in four close links between Obama and Communism. One or two would be expected in such a short review of the blog since Obama is a very left leaning person. Four is nothing more than a bit interesting, until it is observed that two were appointees of Obama. By appointing those two (again just on the first page, there are more) it shows that Obama holds those people, and their opinions, in high regards. Adding to that is Obama's attempted take over of the health care industry and his extremely flawed ideas that would implement an extremely regressive tax (also found in the Communist Manifesto) on the wealthy, one would have to conclude that Obama is a Communist/Socialist. Not any one of these things would lead a prudent person to the conclusion, but in combination that is the only conclusion one is able to reach.
                          But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new guards for their future security.

                          For the intelectually challenged: If the government screws the people enough, it is the right and responsibility of the people to revolt and form a new government.

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                          • #14
                            Kudooooos to the Kiwi

                            Thanks for posting this. I'm noticing more of our international friends are reporting on matters many Americans are still too timid to openly confront.

                            Associations do matter. By their fruits AND friends shall ye know them. Or maybe I should say fruits and nuts................

                            Obama: "That's not the ACORN I knew".
                            Background:
                            Barak Obama taught "shakedown classes" for ACORN and defended them in lawsuits in Chicago.

                            "Team Obama hid its $800,000 campaign payment to ACORN through front group “Citizen Services, Inc.”.
                            "Team Obama shared donor lists with the president’s old employer, ACORN affiliate Project Vote, a 501(c)(3) organization, which is prohibited from engaging in political activity. Project Vote and hundreds of myriad entities intermingled non-profit, tax-exempt funding with the national ACORN. " (from M.Malkin on 9/20/09)

                            The George Stephanopoulos interview of Obama 0n ABC, along with my translation of the Obamaspeak.
                            STEPHANOPOULOS: Congress said they should cut off all funding for ACORN.

                            OBAMA: Is — is — is… (Translation: [I]"Homina homina homina…...")[/I]

                            STEPHANOPOULOS: … all funding for ACORN. Are you for that?

                            OBAMA: Is that true on the other side, as well? Of course that’s
                            true. (Translation: "Lalalalalala....I am answering your earlier, unrelated question while I think of a way to get off this ACORN topic")

                            STEPHANOPOULOS: How about the funding for ACORN?

                            OBAMA: You know, it’s — frankly, it’s not really something I’ve followed closely. I didn’t even know that ACORN was getting a whole lot of federal money.(Translation: a variation of, "That's not the ACORN I knew")

                            STEPHANOPOULOS: Both the Senate and the House have voted to cut it off.

                            OBAMA: You know, what I know is, is that what I saw on that video was certainly inappropriate and deserves to be investigated.(Translation:"There. That sounds good. I'll just get Holder to make it all go away".)

                            STEPHANOPOULOS: So you’re not committing to — to cut off the federal funding?

                            OBAMA: George, this is not the biggest issue facing the country. It’s not something I’m paying a lot of attention to. (Translation: "Shut up. MoveOn. Nothing to see here....lalalalalalalalalala....")

                            OK, I have a question: *FDLE started investigations of ACORN in FL back in 2004. Voter registration fraud cases were concentrated in University towns throughout the state and heavily favored the Democratic party. What's the status of that investigation?.............Charlie Crist?............Anyone????
                            Update (via American Thinker): The IRS has started issuing subpoenas for ACORN documents going back to 1998.
                            I shall withhold my exclamation of "Que R.I.C.O !" , until:
                            (a) indictments are made against all parties involved, no matter where it leads
                            (b) the wheels of justice macerate this entire criminal enterprise so thoroughly that it never can be resurrected
                            (c) the feds can adequately explain why it has taken so long to initiate this action
                            Last edited by DuraMater; 09-21-2009, 10:50 PM. Reason: typo/sp
                            Si copias armatorum, si causas belli secum expenderent.."
                            Annales, Book XIV, Chapter 35;
                            The Rebellion of Boudicca
                            ; Tacitus (c. 109 A.D.)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Capital_Defense
                              Using the same fallacious line of reasoning over and over doesn't change the fact that the logic is faulty. I will judge Obama based on his words and actions, the same way I judge everyone else.
                              And what have you come up with so far?
                              The liberal politician has the only job where they go to the office to work for everyone but those who pay their salary.

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