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  • Still dont want to talk to Iran??

    These folks seem to think we should:

    Five ex-secretaries of state urge talks with Iran

    By BARRY SCHWEID – 24 minutes ago

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Five former secretaries of state, gathering to give their best advice to the next president, agreed Monday that the United States should talk to Iran.

    The wide-ranging, 90-minute session in a packed auditorium at The George Washington University, produced exceptional unity among Madeleine Albright, Colin Powell, Warren Christopher, Henry A. Kissinger and James A. Baker III.

    But they didn't agree on who should move into the Oval Office next January.

    Albright, a Democrat, surprised no one by endorsing Barack Obama. "It would be sending a message of diversity" to the world, she said, drawing cheers from an audience of dozens of diplomats and hundreds of students.

    Baker, a Republican, said he wished to send a "powerful message" to America as well as abroad. After a dramatic pause, he evoked applause and some laughter by saying tersely, "But I am for John McCain."

    Powell, the first African American secretary of state, said he had not decided yet. "I am an American first," Powell said.

    He said he had told Obama, "I am not going to vote for you just because you are black." The critical issue, he said, "is who is going to keep us safe."

    The Bush administration has dragged its feet on even minimal contact with Iran under hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, a course the five former secretaries of state implicitly criticized.

    Nor did they suggest the United States should keep its distance out of concern for Israel, which Ahmadinejad has said "one day will be wiped off the map."

    "The military options are very poor," Christopher said. "And we have to tell the Israelis that."

    Kissinger, for his part, said he favored negotiations with Iran but that the United States should spell out its objectives at the outset. And that, he said, included a stable Middle East.

    Kissinger, secretary of state in the Nixon and Ford administrations from 1973-1977, said the U.S. negotiators also should seek a halt to Iran providing weapons to militant groups.

    Albright said she would begin the talks at the State Department level. "You need to engage with countries you have problems with," she said.

    Secretary of state in the Clinton administration from 1997-2001, she said "the more we criticize Ahmadinejad the stronger he gets" within Iranian society.

    As the five former secretaries cruised through world issues, they hewed to a line that the U.S. had to project its standing but also work with other countries.

    Christopher, who preceded Albright in the Clinton administration, serving from 1993-1997, offered the proposition, though, that the United States should outlaw torture of captured terror suspects.

    And Powell, who served President Bush from 2001-2005, sought to allay suspicions that Russia was turning into a second Soviet Union, even though it acted "brutally" in its conflict last month with Georgia.

    It was "foolhardy," he said, for Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili to "light a match" with a military operation in South Ossetia to forcibly reassert is authority over the breakaway region.

    And Baker, secretary of state for President George H.W. Bush from 1989-1992, said he did not think "there is a deal to be struck" between Israel and the Palestinians. But he said the U.S. should get on good terms with Syria when there is a better chance for a deal. "It's ridiculous for us to say we are not going to talk to Syria," he said.
    "Against the machinations of your enemies you can take defense, but against the stupidity of fools, the very gods themselves fight in vain" ~ Johann C.F. Von Schiller


    "Man once surrendering his reason, has no remaining guard against absurdities the most monstrous, and like a ship without rudder, is the sport of every wind. With such persons, gullibility, which they call faith, takes the helm from the hand of reason, and the mind becomes a wreck."
    --Thomas Jefferson

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    Though Washington has not had formal diplomatic relations with Tehran in nearly 30 years, U.S. and Iranian negotiators held talks three times in 2007 to discuss Iraq.

    Talks should continue to be at a low level, preferably hosted by Iraq, because Iran uses talks for propaganda value rather than serious negotiations. For Iran, talks are just an excuse for delay. The nuclear talks provide a prime example.

    Also, talks with Iraq should wait for a new administration. Bush is a lame duck.
    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley
    Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. -- Albert Einstein

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    • #3
      Originally posted by DAL View Post
      Though Washington has not had formal diplomatic relations with Tehran in nearly 30 years, U.S. and Iranian negotiators held talks three times in 2007 to discuss Iraq.

      Talks should continue to be at a low level, preferably hosted by Iraq, because Iran uses talks for propaganda value rather than serious negotiations. For Iran, talks are just an excuse for delay. The nuclear talks provide a prime example.

      Also, talks with Iraq should wait for a new administration. Bush is a lame duck.
      Low level talks is one thing but Obama at first called for high level face to face talk without preconditions. The precondition is what can or will kill off any dialogue especially if you think Iran, a country that routinely and publicly calls for the annihilation of Israel, is just a misunderstood country. They have nothing to really lose and everything to gain particularly international legitimacy. Iran's goal to is to the be the region's superpower and any show of power or aggression furthers their goal.

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      • #4
        Those five people mustr be just a bunch of "stupid libs". Oh wait a minute...

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        • #5
          again.... "Diplomacy is the art of saying Nice doggie! till you can find a rock."
          "Against the machinations of your enemies you can take defense, but against the stupidity of fools, the very gods themselves fight in vain" ~ Johann C.F. Von Schiller


          "Man once surrendering his reason, has no remaining guard against absurdities the most monstrous, and like a ship without rudder, is the sport of every wind. With such persons, gullibility, which they call faith, takes the helm from the hand of reason, and the mind becomes a wreck."
          --Thomas Jefferson

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