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  • Pak Army Ordered to Hit Back US Forces

    Can anyone confirm this report?

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    Pak army ordered to hit back US forces
    Fri, 12 Sep 2008 08:35:21 GMT


    Pak army put on high alert to confront any US agression

    The Pakistani Army has been given orders to retaliate against any unilateral strike by the Afghanistan-based US troops inside the country.

    Army Spokesman Maj Gen Athar Abbas confirmed the orders in a brief interview with Geo News on late Thursday night.

    The decision was made on the first day of the two-day meeting of Pakistan's top military commanders to discuss the US coalition's ground and air assault in Waziristan region which killed dozens of civilians.

    Army Chief General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani chaired the meeting which began in Rawalpindi on Thursday at the Army General Headquarters.

    Pakistan's military commanders expressed their determination to defend the country's borders without allowing any external forces to conduct operations inside the tribal belt bordering Afghanistan, sources said.

    A senior official said the military commanders also discussed the implications of the American attacks inside Pakistan and took stock of the public feeling.

    "In his statement, Genral Kayani has represented the feeling of the entire nation, as random attacks inside Pakistan have angered each and every Pakistani," he said.

    Earlier on Wednesday, Kayani rebuffed the American policy of including Pakistani territory in their operations against the al-Qaeda and Taliban linked militants hiding in the areas near Afghan border.

    Also, Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani noted that Kayani's remarks on country's defense were true reflection of the government policy.

    The army decision followed bloody incursions by the US ground troops into tribal belt as well as a string of missile strikes by CIA-operated drone aircraft.

    The reaction also comes after US President George W. Bush approved US military raids on militants inside Pakistan without Islamabad's agreement.

    The development also brought into the open the increasing mistrust between the Americans and the Pakistanis over how to handle the Taliban and al-Qaeda linked militants in Pakistan's tribal areas.

    Some political expert predict the break out of an all-out war between the United States troops and Pakistani army following the Bush administration's approval of ground and air assaults inside the country.


    http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id...onid=351020401

  • #2
    I sware, there's something wrong here. I smell something wrong..

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    • #3
      The problem is contributed to by fact that the tribal areas are not fully controlled by the Pakistani government, and the US let Pakistan know after 9-11 that it's support for Musharref was contingent upon its doing something about the hosting of Al-Quada in the areas. The Pakistani Army encountered heavy losses in trying to assert dominion there, and the US responded by providing assistance and trying to shoulder more of the burden itself. Internal political upheaval in Pakistan, and resentment of US influence, partly based on US support of Musharref, who seized power in a military coup in the wake of an election he didn't win, results in Pakistan being neither able to adequately take over the tribal areas, nor willing to stand by while we do it. I think if we make a credible commitment to cede back to Pakistan all the tribal areas up to the Afghanistan border immediately after we rout Al-Quada and the tribal powers there, Pakistan will be more tolerant of our temporary presence and military action in the areas, because the Pakistani government will gain a firmer hand in the areas than it has now.

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      • #4
        If that article is true, then Pakistan needs to do something about militants finding safe haven in their country. What their doing is basically the same thing that happened in Vietnam with the NVA running into Cambodia. I just hope that this scenario doesn't play out the same way.
        Intolerant of ignorance, acting, and BS!!

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        • #5
          We may be able to buy off the Pak generals with a few F16s but the man on the street ain't gonna like it one bit. Remember these are the guys who burned our embasssy and killed a Marine guard in 1979.

          Remember also that Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence maintains ties with the Taliban.

          The cherry on top is Pakistan's new president, a certifiied nutjob!

          Just when we thought our handbasket was safely delivered to hell, the demon at reception takes another look at the shipping label and directs the delivery dude several floors farther down.

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          • #6
            It's probably true, but you'll never see it happen. Us walking into their backyard "without permission" makes the government look weak and the militants use it to their advantage. So they have to "sound big" in order to quell any insurgent uprisings...


            As far as our "wonderful" relationship with Pakistan... well.. "the enemy of our enemy is our friend" even though TECHNICALLY they're playing bothsides of the field... but they HAVE to.....
            “The man in black fled across the desert, and the gunslinger followed."

            "You go for a man hard enough and fast enough, he don't have time to think about how many's with him; he thinks about himself, and how he might get clear of that wrath that's about to set down on him."

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            • #7
              The taliban are really pakistani not afghani, it seems like most of the problems over there have some kind of ties to pakistan. So I say screw it, carpet bomb the crap out of their entire country. Nuke em till they glow then we'll go in n shoot em in the dark.
              Last edited by wittynbear; 01-17-2009, 01:29 AM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by wittynbear View Post
                The taliban are really pakistani not afghani, it eems like most of the problems over there have some kind of ties to pakistan. So I say screw it, carpet bomb the crap out of their entire country. Nuke em till they glow then we'll go in n shoot em in the dark.
                Oh, really!
                Last edited by Stormy; 11-02-2008, 01:33 AM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Stormy View Post
                  Oh, really! You're talking about Pakistan, not Iraq. Pakistan is a sophisticated military power, and has nukes. Want to reconsider your bombing strategy?
                  Just a reminder to everyone that brings up Paki's nukes, there's no threat of them launching them at us. They don't have the missiles with the range.

                  The threat comes from the fear of these nukes finding their way into the wrong hands...

                  Just clearing it up for some...
                  “The man in black fled across the desert, and the gunslinger followed."

                  "You go for a man hard enough and fast enough, he don't have time to think about how many's with him; he thinks about himself, and how he might get clear of that wrath that's about to set down on him."

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                  • #10
                    The Taliban are also a threat to the stability of Pakistan. Extremists allied with the Taliban killed Benazir Bhutto. They know that they have to defeat the Taliban, and seem to have been putting more effort into doing so (if news reports can be believed). I doubt that the government really wants troops to take on the US Army, because that would benefit the Taliban. However, as justhomp says, they government has to sound tough to appease the public.
                    Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley
                    Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. -- Albert Einstein

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by justhomp View Post
                      Just a reminder to everyone that brings up Paki's nukes, there's no threat of them launching them at us. They don't have the missiles with the range.

                      The threat comes from the fear of these nukes finding their way into the wrong hands...

                      Just clearing it up for some...

                      If we hit them, are they on the trigger to hit Israel?

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                      • #12
                        Let me ask a question here...If say there was a preditor plane flying around the border of Afghanistan/Pakistan, and they see Osama bin Ladin, in Pakistani territory (100% confirm it's Osama)...Should the US shoot a hellfire missile to where Osama Bin Ladin is, while he's in Pakistani territory or just do nothing?...
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Southflaguy View Post
                          Let me ask a question here...If say there was a preditor plane flying around the border of Afghanistan/Pakistan, and they see Osama bin Ladin, in Pakistani territory (100% confirm it's Osama)...Should the US shoot a hellfire missile to where Osama Bin Ladin is, while he's in Pakistani territory or just do nothing?...

                          You're asking a question you assume, is defined within the pages of a rule book.
                          Last edited by Stormy; 11-02-2008, 01:34 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Southflaguy View Post
                            Let me ask a question here...If say there was a preditor plane flying around the border of Afghanistan/Pakistan, and they see Osama bin Ladin, in Pakistani territory (100% confirm it's Osama)...Should the US shoot a hellfire missile to where Osama Bin Ladin is, while he's in Pakistani territory or just do nothing?...
                            Fire.....wouldnt even ask the question.....

                            and if the Paki's dont like it, too bad.......if one of their nukes finds it way into the wrong hands, they lose cities in retaliation.......might give them a little incentive to make sure they are secure.....
                            The posts on this forum by this poster are of his personal opinion, and his personal opinion alone

                            "Politicians are like diapers. They need to be changed often and for the same reason"

                            "We fight not for glory; nor for wealth; nor honor, but only and alone we fight for freedom, which no good man surrenders but with his life"

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by LA DEP View Post
                              Fire.....wouldnt even ask the question.....

                              and if the Paki's dont like it, too bad.......if one of their nukes finds it way into the wrong hands, they lose cities in retaliation.......might give them a little incentive to make sure they are secure.....
                              Thing is I wonder, as a marine, would our government screw you when the press gets a hold of it. Turn you over to a world court or try you in civilian court, court martial or something, like you threw a puppy off a cliff or something.
                              They will all look up to me and shout, "Save us!", and I will whisper back... "No."

                              LAW is not JUSTICE

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