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    CARACAS, Venezuela - President Hugo Chavez said the U.S. ambassador has 72 hours to leave Venezuela and that he's recalling his ambassador from Washington.
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    Chavez said Thursday night that he is asking U.S. Ambassador Patrick Duddy to leave in part to show solidarity with Bolivian President Evo Morales, who expelled Washington's envoy in La Paz.

    "They're trying to do here what they were doing in Bolivia," Chavez said.

    "That's enough ... from you, Yankees," he said, using an expletive.

    The socialist leader said Venezuela's ambassador to Washington, Bernardo Alvarez, would return to the U.S. "when there's a new government in the United States."

    The move by Chavez brings relations with Washington to a new low and raises questions about whether the diplomatic clash could eventually hurt trade. Venezuela is a major oil supplier to the United States, which is the country's No. 1 client.

    Chavez announced the decision during a televised speech, hours after saying his government had detained a group of alleged conspirators in a plot to overthrow him.

    Chavez accused the group of current and former military officers of trying to assassinate him with backing from the United States. He didn't offer evidence.

    U.S. officials have repeatedly denied Chavez's accusations that Washington has backed plots against him.

    Asked about Chavez's remarks, U.S. Embassy spokeswoman Jennifer Rahimi said: "We saw the speech and we're investigating, but we haven't seen anything official."

    Chavez warned last month that Duddy could soon be "packing his bags" after the diplomat lamented that U.S. and Venezuelan officials have not been cooperating in the war on drugs.

    Duddy has said that deteriorating diplomatic relations between Caracas and Washington were giving drug smugglers the upper hand.

  • #2
    Just some grandstanding, Chavez isn't going to do much, this is just internal propaganda so the masses know that Chavez is looking out for them...

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    • #3
      He's just a grandstander (as mentioned) much like Kim Jong Il used to be and Amademijad.

      Chavez is hopeing that Putin and his boys will join with him.
      “The man in black fled across the desert, and the gunslinger followed."

      "You go for a man hard enough and fast enough, he don't have time to think about how many's with him; he thinks about himself, and how he might get clear of that wrath that's about to set down on him."

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      • #4
        You know what? we should pull our ambassador out of there.


        It's a crappy POS country to begin with....
        “The man in black fled across the desert, and the gunslinger followed."

        "You go for a man hard enough and fast enough, he don't have time to think about how many's with him; he thinks about himself, and how he might get clear of that wrath that's about to set down on him."

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        • #5
          *sigh*...Is this the best Latin America has to offer?...It's sad, Venezuela used to be a good country, till this moron took office...Sad...
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          • #6
            Pull em out and don't let their baseball players in the MLB! We win again!

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            • #7
              Chavez is one of the biggest swingin' tools on the world stage today. He is truly a walkin' talkin' hairy beanbag.

              His hypocrisy knows no bounds also. Stay away from Citgo, he has a major stake in that company.
              Gimme a Diablo sammich and a Dr. Pepper, and make it snappy - I'm in a gotd**n hurry!

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              • #8
                Here are a few of the things to keep watch on:
                Two Russian strategic bombers landed in Venezuela on Wednesday as part of military maneuvers, the government said, announcing an unprecedented deployment to a new ally at a time when both nations are involved in tense relations with the U.S.

                Russia’s Defense Ministry said the two Tupelov-160 Blackjack Bombers flew to Venezuela on a training mission. It said in a statement carried by the Russian news wires that the planes will conduct training flights over neutral waters over the next few days before heading back to Russia.

                It was not immediately known whether the bombers were armed.

                Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez — an unbridled critic of American foreign policy — said Wednesday the bombers were welcome in Venezuela, and that he hopes to “fly one of those things” himself.

                Chavez called the Russian planes’ visit part of a move toward a “pluri-polar world” a reference to moving away from U.S. dominance. “The Yankee hegemony is finished,” Chavez said in a televised speech.

                Also Wednesday, NATO said it ended a routine exercise by four naval ships in the Black Sea. Russia had denounced the exercise as part of a Western military buildup sparked by the Georgia conflict.
                And:

                Venezuelan IDs help terrorists enter U.S.

                Chavez provides support to Middle Easterners
                headed north, charges congressional report

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                Posted: October 26, 2006
                5:00 pm Eastern



                WASHINGTON – Venezuela, whose leader Hugo Chavez has stood with Iran against the U.S., is providing documents that could help terrorists infiltrate the U.S.-Mexico, charges a new congressional report on homeland security.

                "Venezuela is providing support – including identity documents – that could prove useful to radical Islamic groups," says the report of the subcommittee on investigations of the House Homeland Security Committee. "The Venezuelan government has issued thousands of c?dulas, the equivalent of Social Security cards, to people from places such as Cuba, Colombia and Middle Eastern nations that host foreign terrorist organizations."

                The documents can be used to obtain Venezuelan passports and American visas, which in turn allow the holder to elude immigration checks and enter the United States.


                The report found that the Chavez government has issued thousands of these identity documents that could help terrorists elude immigration checks and enter the United States.

                "The potential is certainly there for terrorists to infiltrate the U.S. through Mexico," said Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas, who chaired the subcommittee. "We apprehended five Pakistanis on the U.S. Mexico border with fraudulent Venezuelan documents."

                The report, "A Line in the Sand: Confronting the Threat at the Southwest Border," says the number of aliens other than Mexican, known as OTM, illegally crossing the border has grown at an alarming rate over the past several years.

                Aliens from "special interest" countries known to harbor terrorists or promote terrorism are routinely encountered and apprehended according to the report. The countries include Iran, Syria, Pakistan, and Afghanistan.

                Federal law enforcement personnel told the subcommittee's staff it is difficult to provide the total number of special interest aliens entering the U.S. because they pay large amounts of money, between $15,000 and $60,000, to employ the more effective Mexican alien smuggling organizations and are less likely to be apprehended.

                In August, an Afghani man was found swimming across the Rio Grande River in Hidalgo, Texas. Last July in Jim Hogg County, Border Patrol agents found a discarded jacket with patches from countries where al-Qaida is known to operate. The patches feature Arabic-language martyrdom slogans that read "way to eternal life" and depict a jetliner crashing into the World Trade Center towers.

                McCaul is concerned that Chavez is turning Venezuela into a staging area for terrorism in America's backyard.

                "We know that Mr. Chavez in Venezuela has openly embraced the Islamic jihad world," he said. "We know that Hezbollah operatives have been given safe haven in Venezuela. So the threat is very real."

                Last year, FBI Director Robert Mueller Jr. revealed to members of Congress that "individuals from countries with known al-Qaida connections have attempted to enter the United States illegally using alien smuggling rings and assuming Hispanic appearances."

                He also testified that a Hezbollah cell had been "dismantled" after discovering that the terror organization was smuggling operatives across the U.S. -Mexico border to carry out terror attacks inside the U.S.

                The McCaul report also points out that radical Islamic groups that support Hamas, Hezbollah and Islamiya Al Gamat are all active in Latin America.

                "Given the ever-present threat posed by al-Qaida and other terrorist organizations – a threat that has been underscored by the recent events in London and the vulnerability of our borders – the need for immediate action to enforce our borders could not be more apparent," says the report.
                "Against the machinations of your enemies you can take defense, but against the stupidity of fools, the very gods themselves fight in vain" ~ Johann C.F. Von Schiller


                "Man once surrendering his reason, has no remaining guard against absurdities the most monstrous, and like a ship without rudder, is the sport of every wind. With such persons, gullibility, which they call faith, takes the helm from the hand of reason, and the mind becomes a wreck."
                --Thomas Jefferson

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                • #9
                  And another good article:


                  The Russians are here
                  Sep 11th 2008 | CARACAS
                  From The Economist print edition

                  Ruling the waves


                  PRESIDENT Hugo Chávez has long seen his leftist “Bolivarian” revolution in Venezuela as part of a global struggle against a world-order dominated by American imperialism. So the announcement this week that the Russian navy is to conduct joint exercises with Venezuela in the Caribbean later this year is something of a diplomatic coup. It is also a worry for many Venezuelans, who would rather their country avoid big-power politics.

                  The precise dates have yet to be fixed. But Russia has confirmed that it will be sending the flagship of its Baltic fleet, the nuclear-powered cruiser Peter the Great. In all, there will be four Russian ships, with a combined crew of 1,000, the Venezuelans say. Additionally, an unspecified number of aircraft, designed for anti-submarine warfare, will be stationed temporarily at a Venezuelan air base. Given that the United States in April revived its Fourth Fleet, disbanded since 1950, to patrol the area, Mr Chávez has a motive. So, in the timing of the announcement, do the Russians, who this week sent two bombers to Venezuela on a training mission and who are angered that the United States has just dispatched warships to deliver aid to Georgia.

                  Venezuela has already spent over $4 billion on Russian weaponry. This includes dozens of helicopters, 100,000 Kalashnikov rifles and 24 Sukhoi-30 fighter-bombers—among the world’s most sophisticated combat aircraft. On his latest arms-buying trip to Moscow, in July, Mr Chávez said Venezuela would “raise flags, bang drums and sing songs” for the Russian fleet. Russia, he said, was a “strategic ally” and shared “the same vision of the world”.

                  He was also quoted (though he later denied it) as offering military bases. With Russia on the lookout for opportunities to poke Uncle Sam in the eye, and Venezuela eager to acquire powerful friends, this is a “perfect alliance”, says one Venezuelan foreign-affairs specialist. “Venezuela knows that under the wing of the Russians, it will be easier to manoeuvre vis-Ã*-vis the United States and [its ally] Colombia.” Or as Mr Chávez puts it, “Go ahead and squeal, Yankees.”

                  The public response from Washington has been a barely-stifled yawn. The State Department noted that if the Russians were indeed coming, then “they found a few ships that can make it that far.” This is a far cry from the 1962 missile crisis, involving the Soviet Union and Cuba. But by using the bargaining power of Venezuelan oil, Mr Chávez is certainly forging the anti-Washington alliance he dreams of.

                  The planning for these exercises clearly predates the outbreak of hostilities between Russia and Georgia. But despite the disingenuous claim by the Kremlin that the manoeuvres were “not aimed at any third country”, it is equally clear that they form part of a global chess-game. Throw Venezuela’s close ally Iran into the mix, and the region’s politics suddenly start to look a lot more complicated. Mr Chávez’s was one of the few governments to give full support to Russia’s invasion of Georgia. He also backs the independence of the breakaway Georgian regions of Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Not to mention Iran’s right to otherwise suspect nuclear technology. Like it or not, the next man in the White House will need to look south.
                  Also kinda "funny" that Venezuela and Iran along with a few other armpit countries, want to slash oil production..... To quote a 90s rap song "Things that make you go Hmmmmmm...."
                  "Against the machinations of your enemies you can take defense, but against the stupidity of fools, the very gods themselves fight in vain" ~ Johann C.F. Von Schiller


                  "Man once surrendering his reason, has no remaining guard against absurdities the most monstrous, and like a ship without rudder, is the sport of every wind. With such persons, gullibility, which they call faith, takes the helm from the hand of reason, and the mind becomes a wreck."
                  --Thomas Jefferson

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                  • #10
                    We need to ramp up our own oil (and refining!) capacity so that Chavez and other countries become non-factors when they try to threaten us with oil sanctions.

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                    • #11
                      Play with fire and you get burnt...

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                      • #12
                        The U.S. imports over 1 million barrels of oil per day from Venezuela. Our greed and addiction to the black stuff has continued to expose us to the politics of our adversaries. Our priorities need to be shifted to alternative forms of fuel and energy. If not, news coming out of Venezuela and the Middle East will continually be of interest to us.

                        A man should never be ashamed to own that he has been in the wrong, which is but saying... that he is wiser today than yesterday. Jonathan Swift 1667-1745

                        It's only a conspiracy when your party is not in power.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by LeanG View Post
                          Our greed and addiction to the black stuff has continued to expose us to the politics of our adversaries. Our priorities need to be shifted to alternative forms of fuel and energy.
                          Very true words! However, as much as we need to invest in alternative source of energy, that won't solve this problem overnight. Nothing will. I personally think we should ramp up our own drilling and such AND aggressively pursue alternatives that will break our dependence on oil and oil companies (who are a bunch of greedy b******).
                          “We don't disagree, you are wrong. Until you have a clue what you are talking about we can't disagree.” - cgh6366

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by nuthead View Post
                            Very true words! However, as much as we need to invest in alternative source of energy, that won't solve this problem overnight. Nothing will. I personally think we should ramp up our own drilling and such AND aggressively pursue alternatives that will break our dependence on oil and oil companies (who are a bunch of greedy b******).
                            I'm open to drilling, but we use 24 % of the world's oil now.

                            We could drill in every square inch of the U.S. and not meet even 10% of our daily demands. It's a losing battle no matter how you look at it. It's time for EXTREME measures. We have to hurt a lot of pockets to ensure our future.

                            A man should never be ashamed to own that he has been in the wrong, which is but saying... that he is wiser today than yesterday. Jonathan Swift 1667-1745

                            It's only a conspiracy when your party is not in power.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by justhomp View Post
                              He's just a grandstander (as mentioned) much like Kim Jong Il used to be and Amademijad.

                              Chavez is hopeing that Putin and his boys will join with him.
                              I do believe his wish will come true. Four Russian warships are heading for Venezuela, as we speak. Two Russian bombers have already landed.

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