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  • GrndPnd0311
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    Originally posted by sinned View Post
    OK, just so I am clear...posting actual video footage of Obama's nonsense is crap but your points based on letters written by some lady we don't from Adam and also has had multiple items from that letter refuted. Good, just wanted be clear on that.
    The video itself is fine. It when people that dont understand try to take it out of context and use it for fear.

    Originally posted by sinned View Post
    Foreign policy based on her relation to Russia...no, I won't give her that credit. I will give her military credit for having the only ANG unit on active duty 24/7 and in charge of the entire countries first strike weaponry.
    Are you serious? You think ol' Sarahcuda is the one with the nuke keys around her neck? Not only that...you said she has the keys to the ENTIRE countries keys. There are so many things wrong with your argument I could go on for days. Again...comeback when you have a LEGITIMATE argument.

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  • 1042 Trooper
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    Yo - DOACOP! Double check you facts and those anger meds my friend....

    The only one who keeps lying about race is the half white guy who calls himself black and who, has no less than 6 aliases and no less than four relationships with America hating racists, running for president.

    Lately he's big on accusing FOX NEWS and Sean Hannity of this but cannot produce ONE PIECE of evidence or tape. He knows as we all do, you say something often enough, and the minions assume it's true. Oldest standard politcal trick in the book - yeah - he's all about change alright.

    His name? Barack Hussein "my Islamic Faith" Obama (not Osama)

    Sure you wanna tie your horse to this rail sport?
    Last edited by 1042 Trooper; 09-09-2008, 01:57 PM.

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  • LeanG
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    Originally posted by Seventy2002 View Post
    Changed my mind? No. The convention was kinda like an auto show where they rolled out the new 2009 McCain. Sarah Palin was the pretty model smiling and gracefully pointing out the wonderful new styling features. When we look under the hood and check the suspension, however, we see it's really just a relabeled 2000 Bush.
    Priceless

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  • LeanG
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    Hasn't really changed my mind. I probably wasn't going to vote for him anyway. His whole message of unity in his acceptance speech completely contradicts the attack messages from earlier in the convention *Guiliani, Palin*

    The only worse choice for VP would've been Mr. I can't think of anything but 9-11, Guiliani.

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  • sinned
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    Originally posted by GrndPnd0311 View Post
    Thing is sinned, I can sit here and spew fact until I am blue in the face and all you will do is rebut it with talking head regurgitation and youtube videos.....I have yet to see fact in any of your posts.... WAIT..I bet you are one that believes she is great for foreign policy because Russia is in her "back yard". If that is the case...then I dont believe ANY debate with you will be lucrative for either of us.
    OK, just so I am clear...posting actual video footage of Obama's nonsense is crap but your points based on letters written by some lady we don't from Adam and also has had multiple items from that letter refuted. Good, just wanted be clear on that.

    Foreign policy based on her relation to Russia...no, I won't give her that credit. I will give her military credit for having the only ANG unit on active duty 24/7 and in charge of the entire countries first strike weaponry.

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  • FNA209
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    Originally posted by DOAcop38 View Post

    First off- only the republicans keep interjecting RACE into it !! people are voting for Obama becuase they are ( probably foolishly) hoping for the NEXT thing to a Kennedy dream again.

    .......
    Good one! That makes the top of today's charts.

    I suppose that the black minister who indicated there would be a "race war" if Obama loses is a ... republican? And that was reported by a liberal media report. So, the republicans prompted that report how?

    The polls that cite a 94 to 1 vote for Obama are being reported by republicans?

    Dude- get a grip! The media sources that are reporting his success in that arena are the liberal media sources.

    Seriously, the whole race issue was reported as a possible negative republican response to having a black candidate..... by the mainstream media while they were attempting to explain why he may lose.

    I've said it before, there will be bigots who won't vote for him because he's black. But there are plenty of people who won't vote for him because of what he wants to do.

    I'm sure you'll twist that to say they didn't vote for him due to his color. But, remember this, he can easily be labeled a white guy with a bit of black blood in him. He's 50-50. His kids are blacker than him. They're probably 75-25.

    You can lay the claim he's black all you want and say that's why I won't vote for him. Go ahead, it obviously makes you feel better about yourself- which probably makes a sad statement on your behalf. I see a guy passing himself off as black now that he thinks he needs their vote.

    Since Obama himself prostituted himself to the white political machine to get the nomination, I see a very talented manipulator which is what politicians are to begin with. I remember, he attempted to pass himself as the answer to all of the white liberals first. Now. he's promoting his "blackness" again because he figured out he lost them along the way on the road to his coronation.

    I have got to end this crap of answering these posts. I probably speak for a lot of people. This election can't come too soon. Spare me the republican are racist comments. I hear that crap most of the time I do a traffic stop. It's old. It's tired. It just doesn't resound anymore.

    I almost think I'm seeing you lay the foundation for a serving of sour grapes. If Obama doesn't get the nod on election, you'll be dragging out all of these posts to attempt to show Americans are bigots. I say no. The majority of us will vote based on who will be best (or who will do the least harm). Black, white, woman, man doesn't have much to do with it

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  • Nightshift va
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    best choice

    I personally don't like either canidate for president though I do like Palin. MCcain is too weak on illegal immigration and caters too much to the Dem/Libs. Obama is not even a consideration and just the fact that people entertain the notion of this socialist terrorist friendly radical as our Commander and Chief shows how out of touch this country has become. It's not about race either, Obamma isn't even Black. He's an elitest silver spoon fed radical who has spent less time among the working class than your average person and this also includes the fact that he was not even born in this country. If Condi Rice or Collen Powell ran for President I'd vote for either one of them before MCcain.
    Last edited by Nightshift va; 09-09-2008, 10:46 AM. Reason: spelling

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  • velobard
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    McCain's choice of Palin has changed my mind about the need to hold my nose while I vote for him. Still not wild about the guy, but considering the alternative....

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  • GrndPnd0311
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    Originally posted by sinned View Post
    Pretty tough to argue with words that actually came out of the candidates mouth vs. someones opinion of the actions taken by their governor. Do you even have a clue what "troopergate" was about?
    Thing is sinned, I can sit here and spew fact until I am blue in the face and all you will do is rebut it with talking head regurgitation and youtube videos.....I have yet to see fact in any of your posts.... WAIT..I bet you are one that believes she is great for foreign policy because Russia is in her "back yard". If that is the case...then I dont believe ANY debate with you will be lucrative for either of us.

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  • Chit2001
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    Originally posted by DOAcop38 View Post
    First off- only the republicans keep interjecting RACE into it !! people are voting for Obama becuase they are ( probably foolishly) hoping for the NEXT thing to a Kennedy dream again. IF sen. edwards was the candidate, what would anyone say ( other than the republicans trying to slam him on infidelity ,and "How moral" they are!) If it were Hillary now,she'd be screamed on as the the next thing to bring this country down ,shy of hurrican Katrina ( ooohh, excuse me- a national tragedy brought ineptly to us by bush jr /cheney who though it was MORE important to save iraqis,and have the Louisiana Nat'l guard OVER THERE,while their homes and family members washed away!)

    Love your republican short term memory-alot of you were grinding your teeth and grousing about how UNREPUBLICAN and a "loser" McCain would be as a candidate. I personally like some things about "old whitey",but its the "old" I'm worried about and NOT the fact he's a white man (NOT like we haven't gone for nearly 230 + yrs with old white men leading us and have gone down the tubes becuase of it; well that WAS before coke sniffing ,party drunk Dum'ya sh*tted on us!)

    sadder that you simplify this issues as "race",or "gender"- folks are voting Obama 'cause,like they supported hillary and edwards, they are F*^King SICK of the last 8 yrs under Bush Jr !!1 Republicans are voting for McCain becuase they feel they have NO choice,and the "republican masters" ( corporate oil, anti union companies, the weapons industry) HOPE he'll be pressured by his own party to do their bidding like bush and cheney did......

    stanf by to standby- got a feeling that IF McCain gets the nod- old Palin will be little more than a "pretty face" in DC( McCain has no problem with teling a woman to STFU,or calling them the "c word" when the disagree with him),and that the mostly Dems controlled congress will probably get alot of support and compromise on certain issues that will make old guard ,money lusting republican party bosses ANGRY...........
    Off your meds again, DOA?....or just p*ssed like you always are?

    Just vote for Obama.... if enough of you do it, he'll show you the way to the rainbow and you can taste the colors all day long.

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  • FNA209
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    Hasn't changed my mind at all. Obama will definitely not get my vote, in fact he never had a chance to. The choice as I see it is either having Obama or McCain as President; there is no third-party candidate with a chance to make it. I have no problem choosing between them.

    The VP is generally picked for political reasons and a VP is generally not all that powerful in their own right. Palin may have simply been picked so some votes can be diverted from Obama. If it works, great. Even if Palin gets her butt handed to her in some silly debate, I will still vote for the Republician slate. Anyone who complains about Palin being picked for political reasons and doesn't believe Biden was picked based on similar reasons is fooling themselves and needs to stop smoking whatever wacky weed they've been using.

    VPs are picked to enhance the Presidential candidate. It's been that way for years. We always see several possible VP candidates before the pick. The one that usually gets it is the one that can deliver the most votes. It's rarely the pick of the litter.

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  • DOAcop38
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    Originally posted by RCKoutWurGLKout View Post
    I know many of those on the left say that Palin is more of a political chess move than anything, and frankly, I have to agree. I mean, politics, presently, are pretty much just that; a big game of chess. It was a smart, well-played gambit, in my opinion. McCain was being viewed by many more hardened right-ists as being less conservative, and especially (from what I was told/heard, not that I researched it myself) less spiritually inclined with the typical right-ist thinking. Therefore, picking her, a "breath of fresh air", a woman, and a more conservative based spiritualist, he makes himself more friendly to his party, and evens the playing field with "race" vs "gender" rather than the "race" vs "old whitey". Just my two cents worth of political analysis .
    First off- only the republicans keep interjecting RACE into it !! people are voting for Obama becuase they are ( probably foolishly) hoping for the NEXT thing to a Kennedy dream again. IF sen. edwards was the candidate, what would anyone say ( other than the republicans trying to slam him on infidelity ,and "How moral" they are!) If it were Hillary now,she'd be screamed on as the the next thing to bring this country down ,shy of hurrican Katrina ( ooohh, excuse me- a national tragedy brought ineptly to us by bush jr /cheney who though it was MORE important to save iraqis,and have the Louisiana Nat'l guard OVER THERE,while their homes and family members washed away!)

    Love your republican short term memory-alot of you were grinding your teeth and grousing about how UNREPUBLICAN and a "loser" McCain would be as a candidate. I personally like some things about "old whitey",but its the "old" I'm worried about and NOT the fact he's a white man (NOT like we haven't gone for nearly 230 + yrs with old white men leading us and have gone down the tubes becuase of it; well that WAS before coke sniffing ,party drunk Dum'ya sh*tted on us!)

    sadder that you simplify this issues as "race",or "gender"- folks are voting Obama 'cause,like they supported hillary and edwards, they are F*^King SICK of the last 8 yrs under Bush Jr !!1 Republicans are voting for McCain becuase they feel they have NO choice,and the "republican masters" ( corporate oil, anti union companies, the weapons industry) HOPE he'll be pressured by his own party to do their bidding like bush and cheney did......

    stanf by to standby- got a feeling that IF McCain gets the nod- old Palin will be little more than a "pretty face" in DC( McCain has no problem with teling a woman to STFU,or calling them the "c word" when the disagree with him),and that the mostly Dems controlled congress will probably get alot of support and compromise on certain issues that will make old guard ,money lusting republican party bosses ANGRY...........
    Last edited by DOAcop38; 09-08-2008, 11:57 PM.

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  • officerdotcomm
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    Just waiting for the reports to start rolling in as this thread grows. Remember - discussion doesn't include personal insults.

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  • sinned
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    Originally posted by GrndPnd0311 View Post
    Like your youtube video on the other post? OR maybe a Fox news article?
    Pretty tough to argue with words that actually came out of the candidates mouth vs. someones opinion of the actions taken by their governor. Do you even have a clue what "troopergate" was about?

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  • DOAcop38
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    Originally posted by 1042 Trooper View Post
    Me neither. Loved her before she was nominated - love her even more now.
    OH come on now, "10-42" ! Nothing exists outside of the windswept plains of Wyoming for you !!!!

    More executive experience than Obama and Biden COMBINED!
    you getting HIGH on that smoked deer meat again ??

    A proven and victorious reformer
    "of WHAT"????

    A proven and victorious fighter
    of "what"????? Won a mayors race in a town that came out to vote 'cause she baked cookies?Ran up the cities budget into the red, then split and claimed how great she was to get into the Lt govs position,then a mere 20 mos,counting the last 2mos,as gov? where the entire population of inuits rarely VOTE or get to participate in the state politics that leave them impoverished and disenfranchised?
    A practice what you preach pro-lifer
    great if its your family, but MEANINGLESS if its the other woman whose stuck in poverty trying to care for a child she isn't capable to raise.don't see alot Palin or any of you "right to lifers" breaking your necks to adopt all these UNWANTED kids ( screw'em ,right? manna from heaven will fall down and feed them ,huh?)

    A great and natural speaker
    given a stump or whiskey box, or crate of moose meat to stand on, ANYBODY can talk sh*t !!! Palin pulled the same old tired game that every demigogue does-nothing more, nothing less.Lets see how "tough" she is when she gets clowned by Biden.

    An avid sportswoman, gun owner and 2nd ammendment proponent
    could care less about that angle as I'm more worried about the people who CONTROL the production and sales of the guns,than the legislators.the canned video clips of her with a gun in her arms ( Palin on a range sighting in an M-16) showed me she can't even hold a rifle,and probably rarely has.but according to alot of you "ditto heads" , anyone other than a republican is going to turn this country into a commie nation( but you say nothing when the corporatists take your gov't by the nose and do whatever they want to the american public.READ my lips- no one ever took a nations guns away BEFORE they took away the right to "free speech"-, Palin has already shown intolerance toward freedom of speech (book banning) and religion; why would it be a hard step toward burning jews(they DON'T believe in Christ like she does), putting the poor in 19th century style "workhouses",and taking the rights of minorities away becuase they "don't fit the model of real Americans"???

    I am happy for the country - she wil compliment McCain quite well. As for the women's vote - why not? The democrats obviously didn't want it when they had it in the bag - why not give them a friend in Washington?

    PUL -LEESSSSSEEEEEE !!! the republicans haven't supported womens ' rights since the turn of the century. This is an insult and a "sucker punch" in picking Palin ,and will only be cheered on by the Ivy league .closed door republican overlords and their vodka and valium addled sorority dolls,or the "trailer park sallies" that love to box on jerry springer, swill burgie beer,and can't remember the lyrics to the national anthem as they sing it badly before the next nascar race..........
    Last edited by DOAcop38; 09-08-2008, 11:34 PM.

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