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  • Obama Ineligible To Be President?

    Source: chicagogop.com
    URL Source: http://www.chicagogop.com/blog/361-W...rtificate.html
    Published: Jul 7, 2008
    Author: staff
    Post Date: 2008-09-06 20:13:48 by Magician




    According to Pat Shannan (assistant editor, American Free Press, July 7, 2008), it now appears that Barack Obama is constitutionally ineligible for the office of president. John McCain's eligibility was established in 1964, when courts ruled Sen. Barry Goldwater was eligible although he was born in Arizona when it was a territory, not a state. McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone when it was a U.S. territory.



    And, even as the controlled media continues to ignore the ineligibility of Obama, it will not go away. While few doubt that the Democrats will manage to pull off his nomination, all remain poised to view the legal performance.



    The first hurdle will be having Obama produce his birth certificate, which so far he has refused to do, and prove that he was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961, as he has always claimed. There is speculation that his American mother may have brought him to Honolulu shortly after his birth in Kenya , but no proof of that has been shown.



    According to the law on the books at the time of Obama's birth, the office of president requires that a candidate be a natural born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. citizen parents. Since he was not, should it be proven that Obama was not born in Hawaii , as claimed, he is ineligible without further debate. But assuming that he was born there, he has another problem.



    According to a legal researcher who has contacted AFP , U.S. law very clearly states: "If only one parent is a U.S. citizen at the time of one's birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for a minimum of 10 years, five of which must be after the age of 16." And therein lies Obama's new problem.



    Barack Obama's father was never a U.S. citizen. Interestingly, there isn't much paperwork on the marriage of Obama's parents, and this has a few researchers speculating that it never took place at all. On page 27 of Obama: From Promise to Power, David Mendell writes: "Obama later confessed that he never searched for the government documents on the marriage, although Madelyn (Obama's maternal grandmother) insisted they were legally married." He also notes that Obama's father apparently was not legally divorced from his first wife back in Kenya at the time, a point of contention that ultimately led to their separation. This also would suggest that there may never have been any legal marriage by Obama's parents at all, but=2 0the Constitution does not ban an illegitimate child from the White House, as long as he was born inside the U.S.



    Obama's mother was born in Kansas and was only 18 when Obama was born. This means even though she satisfies the citizen requirement for 10 years, she was not a citizen for at least five years prior to Barack Obama's birth. In essence, the mother alone is not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. citizenship. At most, two years elapsed from his mother turning 16 to the time of Barack Obama's birth when she was 18. His mother would have needed to have been 16 + 5 = 21 years old at the time of Barack Obama's birth for him to be a natural-born citizen. Barack Obama was already three years old at the time his mother turned 21.



    Technically, Obama should have been naturalized as a citizen, but that, of course, would disqualify him from holding the office of president. If these allegations are, accurate, America could install in January of 2009 a new president who is not even a U.S. citizen, neither born nor naturalized.



    It should be demanded that Obama produce his 1961 Hawaiian birth certificate. If he cannot satisfactorily do so, he should be deemed immediately ineligible to hold the office of president
    Calling an Illegal Alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a drug dealer an unlicensed pharmacist.

  • #2
    Originally posted by NYFedLeo View Post


    . There is speculation that his American mother
    Look no further...if mommy is an american NO MATTER WHERE HE WAS BORN SO IS HE.
    A Veteran is someone who at one point in their life wrote a blank check made payable to The United States of America, for an amount up to, and including their life. That is honor, and there are way too many people in this country today, who no longer understand that fact!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by ray8285 View Post
      Look no further...if mommy is an american NO MATTER WHERE HE WAS BORN SO IS HE.
      I'm rather certain that the Dems have already checked this out and vetted him. That being said, immigration law is far more complex than anything else, including tax law. Being born to an unwed USC mother, outside of US jurisdiction, his citizenship, at birth, would depend on the time period he was born and how long his mother was physically in the US prior to the birth.

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      • #4
        Obama's mother was born in Kansas and was only 18 when Obama was born. This means even though she satisfies the citizen requirement for 10 years, she was not a citizen for at least five years prior to Barack Obama's birth.
        Somebody's grasp of arithmetic is as shaky as their understanding of the Constitution.
        Last edited by Seventy2002; 09-07-2008, 08:36 PM.

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        • #5
          :
          Originally Posted by NYFedLeo View Post


          . There is speculation that his American mother
          Originally posted by ray8285 View Post
          Look no further...if mommy is an american NO MATTER WHERE HE WAS BORN SO IS HE.
          Well, if that were the case, why did Barry Goldwater's birth in the Arizona Territory go to court? And, why was McCain's birth in the Panama Canal brought up by the Democrats?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Stormy View Post
            And, why was McCain's birth in the Panama Canal brought up by the Democrats?
            US Military Installation (Coco Solo Naval Air Station) to US Citizens....... and at the time, the Canal area was under control by the US Government.....

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            • #7
              Just to clear things up, because I'm not a big fan of people posting "facts" that they heard... I took out my immigration law books from the academy so I can quote it for you all.

              Any person, born outside of the US, between 12/24/52 and 11/14/86, to one US citizen parent and one alien parent, would be a citizen at birth if the citizen parent had been physically present in the US or its outlying possessions 10 years, at least 5 of which were after age 14.

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              • #8
                Interesting how we all have a tremendous need to uphold the Constitution on a presidential candidates natural-born qualifications, especially when the candidate is not our favored one. Yet, we don't have the same need to interpret the Constituition when it comes to the 10th Amendment; States rights vs Federal Gov Rights....who's rights supercede?

                A double standard if there ever was one. Let's give it a break on knit-picking natural-born vs. foreign-born. Would it really make a difference in preventing the coming financial tsunami, based on such a trivial matter? I doubt it.

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                • #9
                  You can all sleep well knowing Obama is indeed a Natural Born U.S. Citizen. He was born in Hawaii. The birth certificate has been verified by the state government of Hawaii.

                  This was and is old news.
                  ****I am NOT a LEO, I am NOT a Lawyer, and I am NOT a Defendant****

                  Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris.

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                  • #10
                    Wow, classy place, I think I'll go post as fact what U.S Weekly has dug up on Palin...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Stormy View Post
                      Well, if that were the case, why did Barry Goldwater's birth in the Arizona Territory go to court?
                      Which court would that have been? Got a case citation?

                      And, why was McCain's birth in the Panama Canal brought up by the Democrats?
                      What Democrats?

                      It was a Republican, Fred Hollander, who filed suit over the issue.

                      When the McCain campaign wanted legal advice on the issue they went to Obama supporter Laurence Tribe. (Larry says John's cool.)

                      Democratic Senator Patrick Leahy organized a bipartisan resolution "expressing the sense of the Senate that John McCain, a U.S. Senator from Arizona currently serving his fourth term in the Senate, is eligible to run for President of the United States."

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DefenseResearch View Post
                        You can all sleep well knowing Obama is indeed a Natural Born U.S. Citizen. He was born in Hawaii. The birth certificate has been verified by the state government of Hawaii.

                        This was and is old news.
                        Some info to back up your post;

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                        Born in the U.S.A.?
                        By: KEITH PHUCAS, Times Herald Staff
                        08/25/2008

                        PHILADELPHIA - A Lafayette Hill attorney filed a lawsuit in federal court Thursday challenging Sen. Barack Obama's claim to United States citizenship. The action seeks to remove the Democratic candidate from the November ballot.

                        To be eligible to serve as U.S. president, a person must be born in this country. According to Obama's birth certificate, which his campaign posted on its Internet site in June to quell rumors that he is foreign born, the Illinois senator was born in Hawaii on Aug. 6, 1961.

                        On Thursday, Philip Berg filed a temporary restraining order in federal court to bar Obama from running for president, claiming the Democratic candidate was actually born in Africa.
                        "We really don't believe he was born in Hawaii," Berg said. "We think he was born in Kenya."
                        The presidential candidate's father, Barack Obama Sr., was born and raised in a small village in Kenya, according to Obama's campaign Web site.

                        Berg's suit claims the senator's grandmother, brother and sister, who live in Kenya, believe they were present during Obama's birth in the African country.

                        Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, grew up in Kansas, and his parents met at the University of Hawaii when Dunham was a student there, according to the Obama campaign.
                        Eventually, Obama's father returned to Kenya, and his son grew up in Hawaii with his mother and for a few years in Indonesia after Dunham married an Indonesian man, Lolo Soetoro. Also, Obama lived with his maternal grandparents in Hawaii.

                        "If he was born in Hawaii, and he was adopted in Indonesia by Lolo Soetoro, (Obama) would lose his citizenship," Berg said.

                        The Obama campaign has a special section on its Web site, "Fight the Smears," that debunks the birth certificate story and other reports that have circulated about him during the campaign.
                        "It's part of a smear campaign," said an Obama campaign volunteer who identified herself as Rachel. "There are just so many lies out there."

                        The lawsuit claims three "independent" document forensic experts performed extensive tests on the digitally-scanned image of Obama's "Certificate of Live Birth" posted on the campaign's site and found the document to be "a forgery."

                        Jerome Corsi, author of the book, "The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality," has also deemed the birth certificate phony, according to The Annenberg Political Fact Check, www.FactCheck.org.

                        The Annenberg Political Fact Check, a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania, aims to expose deception and confusion in U.S. politics.
                        Recently, FactCheck.org staffers "touched, examined and photographed" the original birth certificate kept at the Obama campaign headquarters in Chicago and concluded the document is genuine.

                        "The evidence is clear: Barack Obama was born in the U.S.A.," FactCheck.org staffers concluded.

                        Sean Smith, Obama's Pennsylvania communications director, was contacted Friday about the suit but declined comment.

                        The civil suit filed by Berg will be reviewed by the U.S. Federal Election Commission, according to Patty Hartman, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania.

                        Keith Phucas can be reached at [email protected] or 610-272-2500, ext. 211.

                        http://www.timesherald.com/site/news...id=33380&rfi=6

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Stormy View Post
                          By: KEITH PHUCAS, Times Herald Staff
                          Why does that name not surprise me in an article about Obama?
                          “We don't disagree, you are wrong. Until you have a clue what you are talking about we can't disagree.” - cgh6366

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                          • #14
                            :
                            Originally Posted by Stormy View Post
                            By: KEITH PHUCAS, Times Herald Staff
                            Originally posted by nuthead View Post
                            Why does that name not surprise me in an article about Obama?
                            Oh, come on. You know it wouldn't be what you think it might be. Huh?

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                            • #15
                              Alright, desperation is starting to kick in for some people. First Obama is a Muslim, now he's not even eligible to run for President, whats next? I mean, what kind of non-sense is this? "ineligible" to run? I'm not the expert on the Presidential process but somewhere in-between Obama serving in the Senate and becoming the Democratic front-runner, wouldn't this have been addressed? This is the Presidency of the United States, not the DMV, someone can't just slip through the cracks undetected...

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