Why does Obama continue to get a PASS from the MSM?

[JTShooter Sheepdog Find all posts View Profile Close JTShooter]

Why does he continue to get a "pass" from the MSM when he says stupid @$$ stuff like this?

At the Saddleback meeting where McCain and Obama were asked unprompted questions in front of a large crowd (and MSM). This is one question asked to both candidates:

"What's the most gut wrenching decision you've ever had to make and how did you process that and come to that decision?"

Obama's answer was this:

WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE OPPOSITION TO THE WAR IN IRAQ WAS AS TOUGH A DECISION THAT I'VE HAD TO MAKE NOT ONLY BECAUSE THERE WERE POLITICAL CONSEQUENCES BUT ALSO BECAUSE SADDAM HUSSIEM WAS A BAD PERSON AND THERE WAS NO DOUBT THAT HE MET AMERICA ILL, BUT I WAS FIRMLY CONVINCED AT THE TIME THAT WE DID NOT HAVE STRONG EVIDENCE OF WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION AND THERE WERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT AS I SPOKE TO EXPERTS KEPT ON COMING UP. DO WE KNOW HOW THE SHIITES AND THE SUNNIS AND THE KURDS ARE GOING TO GET ALONG IN A POST SADDAM SITUATION? WHAT'S OUR ASSESSMENT AS TO HOW THIS WILL AFFECT THE BATTLE AGAINST TERRORIST LIKE AL-QAEDA? HAVE WE FINISHED THE JOB IN AFGHANISTAN?

SO I AGONIZED OVER THAT AND I THINK QUESTIONS OF WAR AND PEACE GENERALLY ARE SO PROFOUND YOU KNOW WHEN YOU MEET THE TROOPS, THEY ARE 19, 20, 21-YEAR OLD KIDS AND YOU ARE PUTTING THEM INTO HARM'S WAY THERE IS A SOLEMN OBLIGATION THAT YOU DO EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO GET THAT DECISION RIGHT. AND NOW AS THE WAR WENT FORWARD, VERY DIFFICULT ABOUT HOW LONG DO YOU KEEP FUNDING THE WAR IF YOU STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT IT'S NOT AMERICA'S NATIONAL INTEREST AT THE SAME TIME YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE TROOPS WHO ARE OUT THERE WITHOUT THE EQUIPMENT THEY NEED. SO THAT ALL THOSE QUESTIONS SURROUNDING THE WAR HAVE BEEN VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME.

So I ask, what is WRONG with this statement? Anyone?


(Sorry about the format and all caps, copied and pasted it verbatum)

[Taylor13 Macho Man Find all posts View Profile Close Taylor13]

OOH ME ME PICK ME,


Call me a skeptic but H.J.Res. 114[2] (Public Law 107–243) that authorized the use of force in Iraq passed the Senate October 11, 2002 and Obama was sworn in as a Senator on January 4, 2005.

So does Obama really believe he voted against the war in Iraq?

And why has no one even mentioned this?

Maybe I'm just confused....

[1042 Trooper This Can't Be! Find all posts View Profile Close 1042 Trooper]

You RACIST!!!!

Want more? Contrast that rambling nonsense with John McCain, struggling to refuse shipment home when he knew doing so would result in his torture.

And then, there was the "When does a life get human rights" question....

Barack Hussein Obama (not Osama) rambles on and on and on; finally coming up with something about the answer being "above his pay grade. Man...what a commander he'll make! What a moral stand!

McCain used one sentence. "At conception."

I see things looking brighter and brighter for McCain as the "Community Organizer" fails to measure up with each hard question. Man, I can't wait for the debates.

[DAL "Official Non-Person" Find all posts View Profile Close DAL]

What does Methylsulfonylmethane have to do with Obama?

And I do not think that CNN was very easy on Obama. Indications are that the Saddleback performance helped McCain and hurt Obama with voters.

[JTShooter Sheepdog Find all posts View Profile Close JTShooter]

What does Methylsulfonylmethane have to do with Obama?

And I do not think that CNN was very easy on Obama. Indications are that the Saddleback performance helped McCain and hurt Obama with voters.

Well, CNN wasn't running the Saddleback meeting, so CNN being easy is not an issue. They ARE covering for him in an extent, considering it's all the MSM talked about for weeks. Now you hear NOTHING about it and his performance.


Obama will fail miserably at the debates. The only thing that will save him is if McCain is an idiot and picks Romney or Huckabee as his VP.

[DAL "Official Non-Person" Find all posts View Profile Close DAL]

Well, CNN wasn't running the Saddleback meeting, so CNN being easy is not an issue. They ARE covering for him in an extent, considering it's all the MSM talked about for weeks. Now you hear NOTHING about it and his performance.

I guess we don't read/watch the same media.

From today's US News & World Report:

McCain Gets Plaudits For Church Event

John McCain generally received better reviews than Barack Obama for his appearance at Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, California. At the event, Obama and then McCain sat for an hour with the Rev. Rick Warren, who posed identical questions to the White House hopefuls. The Wall Street Journal reports there were "several moments when Sen. McCain's reply was sharp and to the point. Sen. Obama, by contrast, took longer pauses after many of his questions, and his answers often came together slowly." In his New York Times column, William Kristol says it "was McCain's night. Obama made no big mistakes. But his tendency to somewhat windy generalities meant he wasn't particularly compelling. McCain, who went second, was crisp by contrast, and his anecdotes colorful."

On the CBS Evening News, Josh Kraushaar of Politico.com said, "I think Barack Obama did well for himself, but I think the clear winner in the forum was John McCain. He is someone who does not wear religion on his sleeve. He does not talk about his personal life and he felt very much at ease with this type of forum." McClatchy reports Obama "impressed people with his ease talking the language of faith, no small feat for a Democrat. But McCain may have shored up support from this critical group."

In his Washington Post column, Michael Gerson says, "It is now clear why Barack Obama has refused John McCain's offer of joint town hall appearances during the fall campaign. McCain is obviously better at them." McCain's "performance at the Warren forum helps change the political psychology going into the conventions." In a contrary view, Sally Quinn says in a Washington Post column, "I would rather live in McCain's world than Obama's. But I believe that we live in Obama's world. Afterward, the commentators talked abut how Obama needs to have better stories, to be more accessible and less aloof, and to have sharper, shorter, simpler answers rather than be so cerebral. But Obama is authentic."

McCain, Obama Diverge On Abortion The Los Angeles Times reports when Obama and McCain "offered their sharply divergent views on abortion this weekend at an Orange County church, it was a rare chance to hear the presidential rivals address one of the most contentious issues in American politics." Obama, "a Democrat who supports abortion rights but reminded the audience at Saddleback Church that he wanted to make the procedure less common, has managed to make accommodations to abortion opponents without complaints from his party's base." But McCain, "who opposes abortion, has ignited new tensions with the Republican Party's conservative wing by trying to mollify those who want it to remain legal."

McCain Was Not In "Cone Of Silence" The New York Times reports McCain "was not in a 'cone of silence' on Saturday night while his rival," Obama "was being interviewed at the Saddleback Church in California." McCain aides "said Mr. McCain was in his motorcade on the way to the church as Mr. Obama was being interviewed by the Rev. Rick Warren." McCain's performance was well received, raising speculation among some viewers, especially supporters of Mr. Obama, that he was not as isolated during the Obama interview as Mr. Warren implied."

National Polls Show Obama Losing Some Ground

The Washington Times reports a week before the Democratic convention in Denver, polls show Barack Obama "locked in a dead heat with Republican Sen. John McCain, who now leads among white voters overall and has gained among Republicans, evangelicals and white working-class people." A Pew Research Center survey, "with a 2.5-percentage-point margin of error, found 46 percent of the voters surveyed favored or leaned toward Mr. Obama, while 43 percent supported his Republican opponent -- a near tie.." Meanwhile, "the Gallup Poll's daily tracking survey also reported Friday that the race is a tie, 44 percent to 44 percent, with Mr. Obama slipping from his 47 percent average over the past week."

GOP Regains Edge On National Security The Politico reports, "Less than two years after Democrats finally bridged the decades-long gap between the parties on national security issues, Republicans have opened it right back up -- a shift likely tied to the party's new standard-bearer John McCain and the perception of improvements in Iraq." The "reemergence of the national security gap comes amid the first headline-grabbing world conflict of the 2008 campaign -- the Russian invasion of Georgia."

[Seventy2002 Forum Member Find all posts View Profile Close Seventy2002]

Everybody gets a pass from the media!

Journalism has degenerated into simply taking dictation. The news is full of people saying things that make us go WTF!! without having to face an intelligent follow-up question or request for clarification. That's at every level, from city hall to the Oval Office.

[JTShooter Sheepdog Find all posts View Profile Close JTShooter]

I, like most people, do not read print media anymore. So, short of internet blogs and the CBS Evening News, there hasn't been much mention on CNN, MSNBC, or Fox....

[Rifleguy Forum Member Find all posts View Profile Close Rifleguy]

Obama looks good when he reads from a prepared speech and outside of that he's a complete moron.

Honestly I think journalism is nothing more than a bunch of rich, priviledged liberals trying to tell everyone how the world is through their eyes with bag over their heads.

[HapkidoKa Forum Member Find all posts View Profile Close HapkidoKa]

OOH ME ME PICK ME,


Call me a skeptic but H.J.Res. 114[2] (Public Law 107–243) that authorized the use of force in Iraq passed the Senate October 11, 2002 and Obama was sworn in as a Senator on January 4, 2005.

So does Obama really believe he voted against the war in Iraq?

And why has no one even mentioned this?

Maybe I'm just confused....

Where in that statement does he say he voted against the war? He says he was against it but supported funding the war for the sake of our troops.......

[JTShooter Sheepdog Find all posts View Profile Close JTShooter]

How about this part?

BUT I WAS FIRMLY CONVINCED AT THE TIME THAT WE DID NOT HAVE STRONG EVIDENCE OF WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION AND THERE WERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT AS I SPOKE TO EXPERTS KEPT ON COMING UP. DO WE KNOW HOW THE SHIITES AND THE SUNNIS AND THE KURDS ARE GOING TO GET ALONG IN A POST SADDAM SITUATION? WHAT'S OUR ASSESSMENT AS TO HOW THIS WILL AFFECT THE BATTLE AGAINST TERRORIST LIKE AL-QAEDA? HAVE WE FINISHED THE JOB IN AFGHANISTAN?

Sounds to me he's talking about pre-invasion... how would he know all the intelligence we had at the time? He was a STATE senator. Not privvy to that info...

[Seventy2002 Forum Member Find all posts View Profile Close Seventy2002]

how would he know all the intelligence we had at the time? He was a STATE senator. Not privvy to that info...

Read it again there's no claim to being privy to "all the intelligence we had at the time." Obama was on the faculty of the University of Chicago (as was Reagan's Secretary of State, George Schultz). I'm sure there were plenty of well-informed people there to discuss Iraq with.

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because......

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[Stormy Inspector Jacques Clousea Find all posts View Profile Close Stormy]

Interesting typo. AP calls Lieberman a '*****'. Of course, O.com will bleep it out. Check it out, unless it's been deleted by Google, by the time you click on it. Read the article about 2/3 down. 'Bout time we can read some truth in news articles.

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Obama veep announcement expected in coming days

By NEDRA PICKLER – 1 day ago


Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., eats an apple as he get out of the car to board the plane in Albuquerque, N.M., Monday, Aug. 18, 2008.(AP Photo/Alex Brandon)

CHICAGO (AP) — Barack Obama will publicly disclose his vice presidential choice in the coming days, though the Democrat is keeping most aides who are preparing for the announcement in the dark and is giving away nothing to voters as he campaigns.

The Illinois senator has staffers in place to aide the No. 2 and his or her spouse, including more than a dozen seasoned operatives who have set up shop in a section of the campaign's Chicago headquarters. They are running through various logistical scenarios involved in taking over the relatively normal life of a person unknown to them and thrusting them into the unrelenting glare of a presidential campaign.

Obama was believed to have narrowed his list to Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine, Delaware Sen. Joe Biden, Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh and Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius. While it seemed increasingly unlikely that he would choose his vanquished rival, New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, some Democrats speculated Monday that he could pull a surprise and pick her.

Former South Dakota Sen. Tom Daschle, a close Obama adviser, said Monday he had given the campaign personal information needed to examine the background of potential vice presidential nominees but was confident he wouldn't be selected.

"I did give ... documents a long time ago, but these matters have been resolved for a long time now as far as I'm concerned," Daschle told The Associated Press in an interview.

Only Obama, his wife, Michelle, a handful of his senior-most advisers and his two-member search committee know for certain who was on the initial list, who made the cuts, whose backgrounds were researched, whose names were floated to divert the media — and who Obama ultimately will choose.

He planned to campaign Tuesday in Florida and on Wednesday ride a bus through North Carolina and Virginia, where he was appearing with former Gov. Mark Warner, also mentioned as a possible contender for the No. 2 spot. After that, Obama's schedule is wide open, leaving the end of the week as a more likely time for the pick before the Democratic National Convention begins next Monday in Denver.

Campaign manager David Plouffe e-mailed supporters last week telling them they would receive first word of Obama's decision through a mass text message, but otherwise the team has revealed little about what to expect. Historically, presidential tickets then tour battleground states to maximize media exposure, and Obama is expected to do the same.

For his part, Republican rival John McCain is seriously considering naming his running mate between the end of the Democratic convention Aug. 28 and the Sept. 1 start of the GOP convention in hopes of stunting any uptick in polls for Obama. McCain has at least three large rallies planned in top battlegrounds Ohio, Pennsylvania and Michigan, before the Republican gathering in St. Paul, Minn.

His top contenders are said to include Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney. Less traditional choices mentioned include former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge, an abortion-rights supporter, and Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman, the Democratic vice presidential ***** in 2000 who now is an independent.

Since Obama clinched the nomination in early June, speculation has swirled about the prospective No. 2s.

Names mentioned included Sen. Jack Reed of Rhode Island, a national security expert who traveled with Obama to Iraq and Afghanistan; former Georgia Sen. Sam Nunn, another foreign policy authority; and New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, a prominent Hispanic with vast international experience.

While Obama's search committee reviewed its list of potential candidates during the past several weeks, the campaign was busy building the vice presidential staff operation that includes chief of staff Patti Solis Doyle, who was Clinton's campaign manager, and spokesman David Wade, who was 2004 Democratic nominee John Kerry's traveling press secretary. Rick Siger, advance director for Kaine's campaign, came on to oversee the travels of the eventual pick, increasing buzz that his former boss could be the likely choice.

The drama of Obama's impending announcement drew dozens of new reporters to travel with his campaign Monday. They listened in vain for clues as Obama held a subdued meeting with several dozen women in New Mexico on the topic of wage discrimination, sticking to his word that he wouldn't say anything about the decision until his announcement.

Obama was more animated Monday afternoon at a raucous town hall meeting, where he was introduced by Richardson. He praised Richardson as one of the nation's best governors, but otherwise gave no hint of the governor's future status.

Even as they were kept out of the loop on the decision, Obama's staff debated who would make the right choice. Many said if the candidate asked them, they would suggest Biden because of his foreign policy experience and strong debate skills; Sebelius because she's a respected Washington outsider who has won a Republican state; or Bayh because he can appeal to Democrats uneasy about Obama and could help him win Indiana.

Each candidate could pose problems, too. An Obama-Sebelius ticket would be especially light on international experience. Bayh supported the Iraq war; Obama did not and has said that is a leading indicator of judgment.

Republicans are already envisioning their response to a Biden pick — Obama is so inexperienced that he had to pick someone with a 26-year record in Senate. Biden has spent a longer time on Capitol Hill than McCain, they point out, which doesn't exactly represent the kind of change Obama says is needed in Washington.

Biden was far from the speculation Monday; he traveled over the weekend to Georgia to meet with President Mikhail Saakashvili to discuss the country's military clash with Russia.

Other potential vice presidential prospects also seemed to be going about business as usual. Sebelius was traveling to Michigan on Tuesday to help boost Obama's support among women there, while Kaine helped unveil a bust of explorer Meriwether Lewis in Virginia's old House chamber on Monday.

Associated Press writers Beth Fouhy in Albuquerque, N.M., Liz Sidoti and Mary Clare Jalonick in Washington, and Bob Lewis in Richmond, Va., contributed to this report.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g...yxSsAD92L2HJ80

[ray8285 Forum Member Find all posts View Profile Close ray8285]

Where in that statement does he say he voted against the war? He says he was against it but supported funding the war for the sake of our troops.......

I listened to what the man said, he made it sound as if he voted against the war.

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