freedom of speech

[MDS]

So, the whole Imus thing is a few weeks old now. Yeah, his remarks were crap but lets be honest: had a black radio station made the remarks, no one would have noticed. Why is that? Why does the double standard still exist? Is it PC still in action? Or is it 'white guilt'? Why do black leaders let these comments go unheard when someone like Chris Rock makes them?
I'm not trying to turn this into a black/white issue, but considering the amount of criticism that came from black leaders, the parallell is too obvious to not see it in this case.
What about Rosie's comments denouncing Christianity as being as dangerous as radical Muslims? Why hadn't anyone sensored her off of 'The View'? What about the 'white jokes' that are ok to fly by comedians, but the second a white comedian (Kramer) fires back, is vilified?
Ever heard Ice Cube's Death Certificate? That is one of the more racist cd's you can get on the open market. Not only to whites, but to asians as well. What about the single, 'Cave Bitch', from Lethal Injection, which is a direct slam at white women? Why wasn't there anything said then?

Just curious at some of the social hypocrisy coming to a head lately.

[JPR]

What about Rosie's comments denouncing Christianity as being as dangerous as radical Muslims? Why hadn't anyone sensored her off of 'The View'?

The reason is criticizing Christianty is in vogue among liberals these days. It is not only tolerated but indeed welcomed.... just another example of their blatant hipocracy...They preach tolerance but practice intolerance.

[blackwaterops]

Boy I tell ya its to the point now where if your a white person and you say something that is somewhat questionable you get attacked! Now Im not any kind of racist, but for me even saying what I just did puts me in a bad spot. Liberals and Secular Progressives love to attack anyone BUT minorities! Now everyone is scared that they may OFFEND someone. Its getting worse, but like you say all these rappers can say whatever they want and the ACLU, NAACP, and Al Sharpton ( the biggest racist in America) will protect them. Pretty soon our country is gonna be like Great Brittain.

[MDS]

Boy I tell ya its to the point now where if your a white person and you say something that is somewhat questionable you get attacked! Now Im not any kind of racist, but for me even saying what I just did puts me in a bad spot.

You're right about that. Here's a great example: A couple of months back, I was sitting in my car BS'ing with what is now a good friend that I went through the Academy with and he's a black male. He made the comment that he is 'pro-black' as we were talking about something or other. I didn't follow up on it but have wanted to approach him about it again, as I'm curious what exactly that means. We've been on numerous calls together and he's never shown favoritism to anyone of color that I've noticed, nor has he treated non-blacks badly. The point to this story is that I wonder how the reaction would be if I said that I was 'pro-white' to someone of color?
Just curious.

[blackwaterops]

You're right about that. Here's a great example: A couple of months back, I was sitting in my car BS'ing with what is now a good friend that I went through the Academy with and he's a black male. He made the comment that he is 'pro-black' as we were talking about something or other. I didn't follow up on it but have wanted to approach him about it again, as I'm curious what exactly that means. We've been on numerous calls together and he's never shown favoritism to anyone of color that I've noticed, nor has he treated non-blacks badly. The point to this story is that I wonder how the reaction would be if I said that I was 'pro-white' to someone of color?
Just curious.

Oh man you say your pro white and jesse jackson, and al sharpton come knockin at your door.

[KenW.]

jesse jackson, and al sharpton come knockin at your door.

I'd love to "speak" with them. One at a time , in my backyard.
Can't we all just GET ALONG?

[Nightshift va]

Apathy

So, the whole Imus thing is a few weeks old now. Yeah, his remarks were crap but lets be honest: had a black radio station made the remarks, no one would have noticed. Why is that? Why does the double standard still exist? Is it PC still in action? Or is it 'white guilt'? Why do black leaders let these comments go unheard when someone like Chris Rock makes them?
I'm not trying to turn this into a black/white issue, but considering the amount of criticism that came from black leaders, the parallell is too obvious to not see it in this case.
What about Rosie's comments denouncing Christianity as being as dangerous as radical Muslims? Why hadn't anyone sensored her off of 'The View'? What about the 'white jokes' that are ok to fly by comedians, but the second a white comedian (Kramer) fires back, is vilified?
Ever heard Ice Cube's Death Certificate? That is one of the more racist cd's you can get on the open market. Not only to whites, but to asians as well. What about the single, 'Cave Bitch', from Lethal Injection, which is a direct slam at white women? Why wasn't there anything said then?

Just curious at some of the social hypocrisy coming to a head lately.

The reason there is such a double standard is because most whites are too apathetic and dont voice their distaste when comedians stand on stage and call us crackers so it will continue. I dont accept it in my home is how I try to make a difference. I get rid of networks like HBO even though I like the soprano's because of idiots like Bill Mahr spouting off antamerican antichristian and antipolice rhetoric. Grown Men and women need to let their voices be heard when the subject appears and stick to their positions on the double standard of Blacks trashing whites even if as a joke, not because they freak out when people like Imus or Krammer have moments but because it's unacceptable behaviour by any race. However the first ammendment is there for a reason. I may agree you have the right to spew your crap on the air ways and I have the right to voice what an idiot you are and turn you off and try to keep it from my family. I think if Imus really wanted to be admired, which I dont because he's a liberal hippie throw back, he should stand in front of Larry King or Oreily and announce to Sharpton and everyone that what he said was in a joking fashion, and quite honestly a bunch of afroamerican women sweating on a basketball court would cause "nappy hair" and so what? Imus should stand up and say I was joking it was part of my program and If you dont like it then don't watch it. The Krammer deal he should have said Sorry for the rant but you guys made me mad with the heckling and I should have been above you. And in no way are those guys due any money. Tough crap. You go into a comedy club, you risk being a target for all kinds of reasons. People just need to say "No" shut up. I dont agree. No, shut up. Dial 1800 waaaahhhh...This is america. The land of choice.

[Watchman]

I dont much care what anyone says.

Fact of the matter is...
the WHITE MAN has most of the guns.

When push comes to shove, all that other crap aint gonna matter...

[tony.o]

You're right about that. Here's a great example: A couple of months back, I was sitting in my car BS'ing with what is now a good friend that I went through the Academy with and he's a black male. He made the comment that he is 'pro-black' as we were talking about something or other. I didn't follow up on it but have wanted to approach him about it again, as I'm curious what exactly that means. We've been on numerous calls together and he's never shown favoritism to anyone of color that I've noticed, nor has he treated non-blacks badly. The point to this story is that I wonder how the reaction would be if I said that I was 'pro-white' to someone of color?
Just curious.

Was you're 'good friends' comment a 'fascinating admission of bigotry'? Is that one of the US born people that you've been talking to?

[MDS]

Was you're 'good friends' comment a 'fascinating admission of bigotry'? Is that one of the US born people that you've been talking to?

If I thought that, I would have said so, but thanks for the helpful input. And yes, he was born here so I guess my lower-caste status puts me below him, right? You've already admitted that in another thread, so please don't try to jack this one here with your garbage.

[j706]

So, the whole Imus thing is a few weeks old now. Yeah, his remarks were crap but lets be honest: had a black radio station made the remarks, no one would have noticed. Why is that? Why does the double standard still exist? Is it PC still in action? Or is it 'white guilt'? Why do black leaders let these comments go unheard when someone like Chris Rock makes them?
I'm not trying to turn this into a black/white issue, but considering the amount of criticism that came from black leaders, the parallell is too obvious to not see it in this case.
What about Rosie's comments denouncing Christianity as being as dangerous as radical Muslims? Why hadn't anyone sensored her off of 'The View'? What about the 'white jokes' that are ok to fly by comedians, but the second a white comedian (Kramer) fires back, is vilified?
Ever heard Ice Cube's Death Certificate? That is one of the more racist cd's you can get on the open market. Not only to whites, but to asians as well. What about the single, 'Cave Bitch', from Lethal Injection, which is a direct slam at white women? Why wasn't there anything said then?

Just curious at some of the social hypocrisy coming to a head lately.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is coming from the same person who started the anti-gun, anti second amendment thread? What, do we pick and choose our amendments and then you write hypocrisy? Interesting!!

[MDS]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is coming from the same person who started the anti-gun, anti second amendment thread? What, do we pick and choose our amendments and then you write hypocrisy? Interesting!!

If you think I'm anti-gun, you're ignorant. Sorry to be so blunt.

[j706]

If you think I'm anti-gun, you're ignorant. Sorry to be so blunt.

OK I must be a stupid ignorant fool because YOU are Anti gun. Go home!

[scratched13]

If you think I'm anti-gun, you're ignorant. Sorry to be so blunt.

You are horribly anti gun. How can you not admit this? Anyone who wants to see, go to the gun control thread.

[BlackOp]

You are horribly anti gun. How can you not admit this? Anyone who wants to see, go to the gun control thread.

I don't think he's anti-gun, I think he has a misinterpreted Biblical view that he's somehow in a position of authority, which can come to be expected from someone from socialist Canada. Once he realizes he's a civil servant, someone who works for us, not our big brother, he'll straighten out. Give him a little time. The Alabama folk will fix him

He doesn't seem to realize that the only way to enforce the 1st Amendment (and all others) inevitably relies on the 2nd Amendment.