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  • #16
    I also do NOT support the AWB, for the same reasons that everyone else has stated.

    However, I am a little more optimistic that it will not be renewed. With conservatives in control of the House, Senate, and Presidancy, I think there is a good chance that the AWB will be allowed to die.
    "Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish, and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day. " -- ???

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    • #17
      </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by SpecOpsWarrior:

      You should educate yourself on your constitutional right to keep and bear arms, and how it is being infringed![/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">my rights arent being infringed upon. i can carry whether the state issues me a license or not. no seriously, i think there should be stricter gun laws for all types of firearms. since this country is too far gone to ban firearms outright, i feel that there should be a stringent qualifications test one must pass before being allowed to carry a weapon. but things being the way it is now, i doubt that will happen either so i'll settle for the current legislation we have on the books right now and i'll support any other ban that the so called intellectuals in washington have in mind.
      "The American public will find it refreshing to see a Republican candidate, who's not a moralistic, sexually repressed, crusading hypocrite, who cruises airport men's rooms late at night."
      William Shatner

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      • #18
        did i mention that i think SUV's should be subject to the gas guzzlers tax. i wonder how many people are going to flame me for that one. LOL.
        "The American public will find it refreshing to see a Republican candidate, who's not a moralistic, sexually repressed, crusading hypocrite, who cruises airport men's rooms late at night."
        William Shatner

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        • #19
          i'll support any other ban that the so called intellectuals in washington have in mind

          And when police like yourself actually go around collecting firearms, you'll more than likely be one of the first to get killed in the line of duty doing what you were just "ordered" to do.

          Oh well...to each his own.
          "The American People will never knowingly adopt Socialism. Under the name of "liberalism" they will adopt every segment of the socialist program,until one day America will be a socialist nation without knowing how it happened."

          Norman Thomas

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          • #20
            </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Watchman:
            <strong>[i]And when police like yourself actually go around collecting firearms, you'll more than likely be one of the first to get killed in the line of duty doing what you were just "ordered" to do.

            Oh well...to each his own. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">when i pat down a scroat on the street im already running that risk you speak of and i do it with a smile on my face.
            "The American public will find it refreshing to see a Republican candidate, who's not a moralistic, sexually repressed, crusading hypocrite, who cruises airport men's rooms late at night."
            William Shatner

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            • #21
              There are alot of people that think that the assult weapons ban covers automatic weapons - especially in florida.

              I watched a program recently where, a certain County Sheriff, was demonstrating why all 'assult weapons' should be banned by firing some full-auto weapons, including a Full Auto Ak47.

              You'd think that someone in an elected law enforcement position would be able to distinguish between a weapon that is covered by the NFA and one that is covered by the AWB.

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              • #22
                No, I do not support the ban. It is absolutely rediulous. Furthermore, if/when the order ever comes down to start collecting them from the public, I'll shuck my pretty blue suit the government gave me and switch sides.
                "Integrity is like virginity. Once it's lost, you can't get it back." --drunkhunter

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                • #23
                  J=WS6,

                  You'd think that someone in an elected law enforcement position would be able to distinguish between a weapon that is covered by the NFA and one that is covered by the AWB.

                  You can see by some of these posts above that even rank and file dont have a clue sometimes.

                  Bart:
                  when i pat down a scroat on the street im already running that risk you speak of and i do it with a smile on my face.

                  That post went right over your head eh ?

                  Drunkhunter got it.
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                  "The American People will never knowingly adopt Socialism. Under the name of "liberalism" they will adopt every segment of the socialist program,until one day America will be a socialist nation without knowing how it happened."

                  Norman Thomas

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                  • #24
                    Wow...the first LEO I've met on this board that really scares me... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />

                    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">my rights arent being infringed upon. i can carry whether the state issues me a license or not. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I appreciate the attempt at sarcasm, but in all seriousness, it's hard to argue that the people who wrote the constitution would agree to a total ban on firearms. Even the current government feels that some government control is allowable, but not an outright ban.

                    And yet, amusingly enough, the 1994 bill did ban several guns by name. I'm sorry, but if they can ban 20+ guns there, what's to prevent 30 more later? And then another 30? Argue that a total ban wouldn't be an infringment...

                    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">no seriously, i think there should be stricter gun laws for all types of firearms. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I am simply amazed that a cop, who sees the limitations of the law everyday, would make that kind of argument. The ONLY people who obey are the people YOU don't have to worry about. The ones who might cause a problem aren't going to worry about another law...they've already decided they're not interested.

                    Or maybe there's the thought that only agents of the state should have weapons? I can't express how much that idea terrifies me.

                    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">i feel that there should be a stringent qualifications test one must pass before being allowed to carry a weapon. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I'm okay with that...to carry a weapon, I can agree to some requirements (nothing about owning a weapon, mind, or transporting it to the range) though I do so only because I know it won't make a difference. The people who carry weapons everyday will do whatever is reasonable in order to continue carrying them.

                    The trick, of course, is making sure that is is reasonable. Asking a civillian to shoot the same standards as the local PD seems fine...but I would strongly oppose any legistlation that enforced a test without spelling out what the test requirements are to be without the local or state officials being able to change them at whim:

                    State Tester: "Yeah, I know last year you had to hit the bullseye ten times at thirty feet, but this year it's gonna be fifty times at a thousand yards..."

                    </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">i'll settle for the current legislation we have on the books right now and i'll support any other ban that the so called intellectuals in washington have in mind </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Well, it seems like you have a nice sense of distrust for our elected officials, and yet you're still willing to support them? Something's not stirring the kool-aid...

                    If you're wearing a uniform, your job isn't just about enforcing the laws on the books. Your job is about Justice. You were hired for your discretion as much as anything else...And the excuse that you were just following orders isn't going to garner much sympathy. That was tried at Nuremburg...

                    Kudos to all the LEOs out there who think about the intent, ramifications, and effectiveness of the laws passed, and for being willing to apply their own intelligence and morality to the words on paper. Every officer in uniform should be willing to do so.

                    <small>[ 07-03-2003, 06:00 PM: Message edited by: Lictalon ]</small>
                    I haven't felt this good since we stole the 2000 elections!--Ned Flanders

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                    • #25
                      Bart, you are the kind of cop, if indeed you are a cop, that when I finally decide to tell you what I think of you, other people assume I hate all cops. Do us a favor and give it up dude.

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                      • #26
                        </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Mike Tx:
                        <strong>Bart, you are the kind of cop, if indeed you are a cop, that when I finally decide to tell you what I think of you, other people assume I hate all cops. Do us a favor and give it up dude.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">what can i say, when it comes to gun control, i lean towards the liberal side. most conservatives dont like it, but i dont care. why are people so sensitive about this subject anyway? no wonder this profession suffers from a high rate of heart attacks. LOL
                        "The American public will find it refreshing to see a Republican candidate, who's not a moralistic, sexually repressed, crusading hypocrite, who cruises airport men's rooms late at night."
                        William Shatner

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                        • #27
                          You a cop? Give up your gun. I know, I know, you are required to carry one. Just remember while you support gun control and victim disarmament, you won't be a cop forever. When you retire, and you can no longer carry a gun, just think of all the criminals that hate you that won't obey the law, and will still have a gun. And they may come after you. Just call 911, then get on your knees and beg for mercy like the civilians you want to disarm will have to in your socialist cesspool.

                          <small>[ 07-03-2003, 06:28 PM: Message edited by: Mike Tx ]</small>

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                          • #28
                            </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Mike Tx:
                            <strong>You a cop? Give up your gun. I know, I know, you are required to carry one. Just remember while you support gun control and victim disarmament, you won't be a cop forever. When you retire, and you can no longer carry a gun, just think of all the criminals that hate you that won't obey the law, and will still have a gun. And they may come after you. Just call 911, then get on your knees and beg for mercy like the civilians you want to disarm will have to in your socialist cesspool.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">when i retire i'll be slamming beers down on the beach in bermuda without a care in the world. i wont have to worry about the scroats down here. thats granted the economy recovers and my stocks gain back some value. if it doesnt, you'll find me in nyc jumping off of a high rise with the rest of the wall street guys.
                            "The American public will find it refreshing to see a Republican candidate, who's not a moralistic, sexually repressed, crusading hypocrite, who cruises airport men's rooms late at night."
                            William Shatner

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                            • #29
                              </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> if it doesnt, you'll find me in nyc jumping off of a high rise with the rest of the wall street guys. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Well, I guess there's always hope... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
                              People have more fun than anybody.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Bart
                                i support the ban. why? because i dont own any automatic weapons and i dont plan on buying any. therefore, i really dont give a crap. besides, theres too many morons out there who legally possess these types of weapons. we dont need anymore.
                                Just because you don't personally own any such weapons is no reason for you to be so apathetic on this issue. Next time they might very well be banning a weapon you own that IS important to you. As for the people that own FA weapons, the process to be licensed and the cost of pre-86 FA weapons pretty much assures that any wingnuts are screened out.

                                my rights arent being infringed upon. i can carry whether the state issues me a license or not. no seriously, i think there should be stricter gun laws for all types of firearms. since this country is too far gone to ban firearms outright, i feel that there should be a stringent qualifications test one must pass before being allowed to carry a weapon. but things being the way it is now, i doubt that will happen either so i'll settle for the current legislation we have on the books right now and i'll support any other ban that the so called intellectuals in washington have in mind.

                                You have to be kidding.
                                Last edited by tcsd1236; 07-05-2003, 06:01 AM.

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