Do you support the AWB?

[RoboCop]

Do you support the 1994 AWB? Next September of 2004 it will be decided to renew it or let it die.

Personally, I have conflicting views on it. One part of me wants the AWB to just die, so that law abiding citizens could own them... BUT, another part of me says "well sh*t, now it could be easier for criminals to get ahold of these weapons" which is something that some police can't deal with.

What do you think?

[J-WS6]

I do not, nor will I ever support such a pointless ban.

How does a pistol grip or folding stock make a gun more leathal?

Im all for gun controls, I dont think everyone should be able to own a gun, but the AWB is just plain stupid. I think the laws now minus the AWB are fine. Although I would like to be able to own a Full Auto. (My local PD wont sign off)

[Bill R]

How do flash hiders and bayonet lugs make things more dangerous for officers?

[CinaC]

I don't support the bill, and I hope it and whatever pointless piece of legislation that prevents me from purchasing a magazine with a +10 capacity DIES!

[Mike Tx]

I look for it to be renewed. The politicians will suddenly "find" support for it after a few high profile shooting occur, each one using machine guns or high caliber weapons. You wait.

But no I don't support it.

[JKT]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by RoboCop:
[QB]Do you support the 1994 AWB? Next September of 2004 it will be decided to renew it or let it die. [QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">No. I think it's assnine and serves no real purpose other than to exert more governmental control over the Law-Abiding citizens of the US.

[Bart]

i support the ban. why? because i dont own any automatic weapons and i dont plan on buying any. therefore, i really dont give a crap. besides, theres too many morons out there who legally possess these types of weapons. we dont need anymore.

[CinaC]

It is very unlikely that I will ever own, say, a minivan. But as much as I detest those vehicles, I don't think "I'll never own one so what do I care" is a very good reason to make it illegal for others to own.

Believe it or not, Bart, there are more people than you in the world, and it's pretty selfish of you to think only of yourself, don't you think?

[SpecOpsWarrior]

It was garbage legislation that did nothing to "save the children"!

I guess Biily C and the gang thought they were really gonna do some good when they banned those evil AR-15's, AK-47's and Spas shotguns, among others!

But all they really ended up doing was banning flash suppresors, bayonet lugs, collapsable stocks, and the manufacture of standard capacity magazines (I hate the term hi-cap, we only have two kinds of magaizens, standard capacity, and low-cap mags). Now we have Clintonian mags that only hold ten rounds, and then we have a marketplace that is flooded with used standard capacity magazines at inflated prices!

Yeah, that piece of legislation really saved some lives!

The ONLY form of gun control that I am in favor of is keeping guns out of the hands of violent criminals and those with mental defects. I like the idea of an instant background check, but when anybody can buy a used gun without a background check, then it creates a situation where the background check isn't really keeping guns out of the hands of criminals. What we need are stricter laws about crimes committed with firearms, felons in possession of firearms and aggressive prosecution of criminals that break those laws.

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[SpecOpsWarrior]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Bart:
<strong>i support the ban. why? because i dont own any automatic weapons and i dont plan on buying any. therefore, i really dont give a crap. besides, theres too many morons out there who legally possess these types of weapons. we dont need anymore.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">The Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 didn't ban automatic weapons.

You should educate yourself on your constitutional right to keep and bear arms, and how it is being infringed!

[SGT Dave]

I ABSOLUTELY do not support it, but as Mike said, COOINCIDENTALLY, there will be a couple of mass shootings in the next year that the media will go out of their way to cover, and all the polititians will suddenlt decide to support it.

All it done was to drive the prices up so high most working cops couldn't afford to privately purchase them as we'd done in the past.

Just because Podunk PD issued me a shotgun does NOT mean I'm "well armed." Any encounter past 40-50 yards OR with a suspect using body armor means I'm SOL with the handgun and shotgun.

They word it though to make it sound like SUCH a great thing-like it saves SOOOOOO many lives BULL-PU**Y!!

[PelicanDriver]

Don't renew it. Only law-abiding citizens will obey it or any other unconstitutional gun control law.

[Bart]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by CinaC:
<strong>It is very unlikely that I will ever own, say, a minivan. But as much as I detest those vehicles, I don't think "I'll never own one so what do I care" is a very good reason to make it illegal for others to own.

Believe it or not, Bart, there are more people than you in the world, and it's pretty selfish of you to think only of yourself, don't you think?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">that thing about me not caring because i didnt own one.... that was just sarcasm.

[J-WS6]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Bart:
<strong>i support the ban. why? because i dont own any automatic weapons and i dont plan on buying any. therefore, i really dont give a crap. besides, theres too many morons out there who legally possess these types of weapons. we dont need anymore.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">You really need to read up on your laws.

the National Firearms Act banned automatic weapons more than 50 years ago.

[i]Since 1934 the Federal Government has regulated the ownership of machine guns and several other types of weapons.

The National Firearms Act of 1934 provides for the registration, and the taxing of the transfer, of a class of weapons described as NFA Title 2 weapons (sometimes referred to as "Class 3 weapons"). These include machine guns, short barreled rifles, short barreled shotguns, silencers (also known as suppressors) and also a class of weapons known as "Any Other Weapon" (AOW). An example of an AOW is, but not limited to, a smooth barreled pistol or a short barreled combination gun.

The transfer tax on machine guns, short barreled rifles, short barreled shotguns, and suppressors is $200. The transfer tax on AOWs is $5. This transfer tax is a one time only tax and not an annual tax. Each time an NFA weapon changes hands, the tax is charged.

The paperwork required for the transfer of an NFA weapon consists of an application form with the applicant's photograph attached and a fingerprint card. These are submitted the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms in duplicate along with the transfer tax. The finger print cards are forwarded to the FBI for a background check; not very different from a background check that would be performed for a "Secret Level" security clearance. The background check and transfer process takes about 3 months or so depending on the examiners

[Watchman]

Bart.

As already stated, the "Assault Weapons BAN" aint about "assault" weapons.

Its about a piecemeal attempy to eventually ban all guns. Its the morons that dont care because they dont have any that are making it possible.

For your information,real assault weapons are already very regulated. Citizens in most states can legally own them, I have several firends that do.

Since you seem not to know the difference between an assault weapon and a semiautomatic, let me help you. A semi auto(which is what the ban is about) shoots only one shot with each pull of the trigger. A full auto shoots as many as you want with one pull of the trigger.

Now I know that the TV talking heads dont make that distinction, so at least now that you know that, you ought to sound a little more intelligent of what you speak.

If it's possible.

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