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  • #61
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    Originally posted by DAL View Post
    That view has not ended "the story," nor does it seem likely to do so in light of the Supreme Court's divided ruling in Heller that gratuitously stated that some limitations on firearms ownership and carrying would be Constitutional. I think there is a long road to go to define permissible limits on gun rights.

    There are some gun control laws that I support. For example, I support the prohibition on convicted felons possessing firearms (so that they can be arrested when they do), the prohibition on mental patients possessing firearms, and the prohibition of possession of destructive devices. I think that most people would agree.
    Nothing "ends the story" with a Lawyer.
    My 13year old daughter can read the Bill of Rights and easily understand the part that says "shall not be infringed" under the second ammendment.

    That is the problem in this country. Too many think there elitest liberal views hold water no matter how simple something is written. If overthinking or underminding the Bill of Rights isn't bad enough, even history and evidence through numbers will not change the minds of the anti-gun lobby. There comes a point where sensible people, not lawyers just say, shut up and follow the facts.
    Gun Control is Unconstitutional. Crooks carry a Lorcin 9mm into my home on a home invasion attempt I will shoot them with my Benneli M1Super90 or my M4 Carbine and I do not care if some ******* Politican thinks my gun looks "menacing" to them because it has a pistol grip and holds thirty rounds and they think I shouldn't be allowed to own it.
    Gun Control is a failure. Our founders knew this. That's why It's not even fit for debate. They were clear on this issue. "Shall not be infringed" I dont care who agrees or disagrees, the point is in plain english not written in biblical parabells.
    "Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. The MARINES don't have that problem." ....Ronald Reagan

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    • #62
      Gun Control is a failure. Our founders knew this. That's why It's not even fit for debate. They were clear on this issue. "Shall not be infringed" I dont care who agrees or disagrees, the point is in plain english not written in biblical parabells.
      Works for me...
      "The American People will never knowingly adopt Socialism. Under the name of "liberalism" they will adopt every segment of the socialist program,until one day America will be a socialist nation without knowing how it happened."

      Norman Thomas

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      • #63
        This thread is positively brilliant! The comments on both sides are good, but the bellweather is the 95% NO votes to 5% YES votes out of 64 total votes.

        That's 20 to 1 against the notion that gun control laws control crime.

        Who here in California will print a copy of this and mail it to Congresswoman Feinstein?

        Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

        Then will you at least vote her and her gun control nonsense out of office?

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        • #64
          Originally posted by since9 View Post
          This thread is positively brilliant! The comments on both sides are good, but the bellweather is the 95% NO votes to 5% YES votes out of 64 total votes.

          That's 20 to 1 against the notion that gun control laws control crime.

          Who here in California will print a copy of this and mail it to Congresswoman Feinstein?

          Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

          Then will you at least vote her and her gun control nonsense out of office?
          Gun control was and is not about lowering crime. Its a measure of control that is fradulently pushed on the public as a crime reducing measure.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by DAL View Post
            Far and away the most important determinant of the crime rate, including the homicide rate, is demographics.

            RACIST!!! Some would say that, but you're on the mark DAL.
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            • #66
              Originally posted by JPR View Post
              Well I guess that rules out eating steak or ham at a boy scout outing. I guess the libs would prefer them eating mind numbing pablum.
              ....there you go with your generalizations again! thats like saying the conservatives want to allow senior citizens to starve and die in the cold, poor children to not have a basic education unless their parents can pay for it, and people to work for non-union ,slave wages while the companies they work for get richer...,eerrr,thats actually true .....( just messing with you)
              "we're americans ! We don't quit because we're wrong, we just keep doing it wrong UNTIL it turns out Right"...

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Rifleguy View Post
                Gun control was and is not about lowering crime. Its a measure of control that is fraudulently pushed on the public as a crime reducing measure.
                You are 100% correct.

                The ONLY thing that keeps this Nation from being conquered from within, or without, is the fact we have an armed populace.

                ...and when the bad man comes, be it from an election, or from an invasion force, (and he will come) those with firearms will be the only resistance.

                Anyone that thinks this Government will never fail, or fall... Read some history books. Look what happened after a simple hurricane... No government lasts forever, and no society is immune from being conquered.
                As far as "rights" are concerned; I look at them this way... I don't tell you what church to go to, and you don't tell me what kind of firearm I can own...

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Nightshift va View Post
                  Gun Control is Unconstitutional. Crooks carry a Lorcin 9mm into my home on a home invasion attempt I will shoot them with my Benneli M1Super90 or my M4 Carbine and I do not care if some ******* Politican thinks my gun looks "menacing" to them because it has a pistol grip and holds thirty rounds and they think I shouldn't be allowed to own it.
                  Gun Control is a failure. Our founders knew this. That's why It's not even fit for debate. They were clear on this issue. "Shall not be infringed" I dont care who agrees or disagrees, the point is in plain english not written in biblical parabells.
                  you do know that there are ALOT of "so called" Conservatives that don't really believe in the Constitution, or your "rights to bear arms?" and don't you live in a state where there are little gun restrictions?( I do believe VA. was one of the eastern seaboard states where NYC criminals were going to make "straw buys" ) Also , you never know- that thug might come thru the door with an AK 47,or "Street sweeper", but if you are "ready" then Lord bless you for being prepared to take care of your own....( plus knowledge of the bible adds to a peaceful way to deal with issues a gun CAN'T settle )
                  Last edited by DOAcop38; 01-31-2010, 02:07 AM.
                  "we're americans ! We don't quit because we're wrong, we just keep doing it wrong UNTIL it turns out Right"...

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by DOAcop38 View Post
                    you do know that there are ALOT of "so called" Conservatives that don't really believe in the Constitution, or your "rights to bear arms?" and don't you live in a state where there are little gun restrictions?( I do believe VA. was one of the eastern seaboard states where NYC criminals were going to make "straw buys" ) Also , you never know- that thug might come thru the door with an AK 47,or "Street sweeper", but if you are "ready" then Lord bless you for being prepared to take care of your own....( plus knowledge of the bible adds to a peaceful way to deal with issues a gun CAN'T settle )
                    I wouldn't say "alot of conservatives" favor gun control when I can't think of a single one.
                    And one may never know that in a gun free zone, they might have multiple intruders break into their home and execute them.
                    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22258394/
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4haCapEJ1I

                    or have multiple assailants break in and tortue and rape them
                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_...ct_of_Columbia

                    In either case I would not grab a hunting rifle or even a pistol, I'd grab something a bit like one of my AKs or AR15s.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by DOAcop38 View Post
                      you do know that there are ALOT of "so called" Conservatives that don't really believe in the Constitution, or your "rights to bear arms?"
                      Really? Can you back this up?
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Rifleguy View Post
                        or have multiple assailants break in and tortue and rape them
                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_...ct_of_Columbia
                        .
                        DC's highest court ruled that the police do not have a legal responsibility to provide personal protection to individuals, and absolved the police and the city of any liability
                        That's why Smith & Wesson, Browning and Ruger are my happy warm friends!

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