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    just a quick question. i just started using a product called super pump 250 (similar to NO xplode and NOXCG3 by xience). I know this product is meant to be used before lifting but i am using it before running as i like the mental focus and endurance i get with it. Is this a good idea? is the creatine in this product being wasted?

    I can take or leave this product really so any info would help, thanks guys and gals

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    i dont think you are wasting it. people had posting said it actually gives them longer endurance when running etc, but i know the 1st week when taking creatine, your suppose to take it 4-5 times a day, after day 6 just twice...but drink alot of water and you shall be good to go
    dubbed code name: Alien #69

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    • #3
      Originally posted by 99 Fenix View Post
      i dont think you are wasting it. people had posting said it actually gives them longer endurance when running etc, but i know the 1st week when taking creatine, your suppose to take it 4-5 times a day, after day 6 just twice...but drink alot of water and you shall be good to go
      That's strictly creatine monohydrate. The newer creatines, such as in Super Pump, don't require the "loading" phase. To the OP, If it's helping you with the run, keep using it. Creatine more or less works to force nutrients and water into muscles allowing more work and a fuller "look" for the muscles. You'd be wise to increase water intake regardless, but if it's working for you, stay on that path. Just make sure to check that there is nothing in the supps you take to DQ you on a drug test.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by aftermath View Post
        That's strictly creatine monohydrate. The newer creatines, such as in Super Pump, don't require the "loading" phase. To the OP, If it's helping you with the run, keep using it. Creatine more or less works to force nutrients and water into muscles allowing more work and a fuller "look" for the muscles. You'd be wise to increase water intake regardless, but if it's working for you, stay on that path. Just make sure to check that there is nothing in the supps you take to DQ you on a drug test.
        Yep i already know about the water part and i usually drink a ton anyways so i'm good there.

        Don't think i would be DQ'd with this stuff, all i take is a multi once a day, super pump and protein powder so i should be good, thanks man.

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        • #5
          thanks aftermath..i forgot to mention its for monohydrate..yea, i heard the "cheaper" creatine can DQ you, but im in the same boat you are highway
          dubbed code name: Alien #69

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          • #6
            Why would "cheaper" creatine DQ you? What is defined as "cheaper" creatine (Iovate six star from Wal-mart)?

            Also, just started using protein and creatine again this morning (it has been about seven years since I used it last), and I have crapped twice in the last two hours. I don't know yet if it is a coincidence, or if it is common when starting back up, or if it is the brand. I am using that six star brand and the last time I used a GNC brand.

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            • #7
              creatine monohydrate: you only need 5g (or less) per day with lots of water. take any more 5g and you're just going to pee it all away, your body won't process more than that. you don't need to "load", just take 5g a day starting from day one. btw, don't waste your money on flavored creatine, you're just paying for sugar and you'll go thru your supply faster. you want to take it with a sugared drink so you body will absorb it, preferably a fruit juice or POWDERED (non-citrus) gatorade. premade gatorade uses high fructose corn syrup, powdered uses dextrose which is not as bad as hfcs. time of day/post or pre workout is not important, jsut take it the same time everyday.

              protien: you need around 1g per pound of body weight per day thru food and supplements. i've had good results from optimum nutrition chocolate flavored protein. its fairly cheap ($35 for a 5lb tub - 80 servings @ 24g per scoop. you can definately get it for less online). tastes good as far as protein shake go and mixes very well with water (GNC brand i had before this tasted horrible and wouldn't mix well unless you used a blender). Muscle milk is also pretty tasty but is more $$$ and more calories. ON and MM both mix and taste good using water. maybe you're having the extra trips to the toilet due to lactose intolerance?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by DevilDog1371 View Post
                Why would "cheaper" creatine DQ you? What is defined as "cheaper" creatine (Iovate six star from Wal-mart)?

                Also, just started using protein and creatine again this morning (it has been about seven years since I used it last), and I have crapped twice in the last two hours. I don't know yet if it is a coincidence, or if it is common when starting back up, or if it is the brand. I am using that six star brand and the last time I used a GNC brand.
                i know of a lot of guys who take creatine and supplements such as super pump and NOXplode and make very frequent trips the facilities, so it seems to be somewhat normal

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                • #9
                  Three further questions.

                  1. What are opinions on the wal-mart bought creatine and protein?

                  2. How do you know if it is a creatine monohydrate?

                  3. Is there anything that should be taken with or in the place of creatine and protein?

                  Thanks for all the help.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DevilDog1371 View Post
                    Three further questions.

                    1. What are opinions on the wal-mart bought creatine and protein?

                    2. How do you know if it is a creatine monohydrate?

                    3. Is there anything that should be taken with or in the place of creatine and protein?

                    Thanks for all the help.
                    for question 2, it should say on the bottle if it is mono or not.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DevilDog1371 View Post
                      Three further questions.

                      1. What are opinions on the wal-mart bought creatine and protein?

                      2. How do you know if it is a creatine monohydrate?

                      3. Is there anything that should be taken with or in the place of creatine and protein?

                      Thanks for all the help.
                      1. Most products are "you get what you pay for" type deals.
                      2. It'll say.
                      3. Creatine in other forms (CEE, CEM, etc.) are better IMO than plain creatine mono. Creatine and protein however, should be your staples, with a good multi-vitamin if you are trying to put on size.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by aftermath View Post
                        Creatine and protein however, should be your staples
                        In all my years of bodybuilding, this is a first. Never heard this one.

                        Supplements are designed to help complete a diet that is already filled with vitamins, amino acids, protein, carbohydrates, essential fatty acids, etc. (supplement a 3th meal for a protein shake, BCAAs, flax oil, and mixed in oats). I see more and more knuckleheads thinking that the more protein powder and creatine they take, the bigger they'll get. Then they continue getting their calories from Doritos and Micky-D's.

                        If you're not eating 4-6 healthy meals everyday with ample amounts of veggies, good carbs, EFA's, protein from lean meats... you need to stop wasting your time at the local GNC and head to your grocery store.

                        I take flax oil, multivitamin, and protein shakes (twice a day)... that's it. I can't even remember the last time I had creatine.

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                        • #13
                          The only way I know of one wasting creatine is by going through the loading phase. Our college weight coach said that the human body can only process 5 grams of creatine in a 24 hour period. The excess is excreted in your waste. The loading phase is a crock. Just a tad bit of info.
                          Success is failure turned inside out
                          The silver tint of the clouds of doubt
                          And you never can tell how close you are,
                          It may be near when it seems so far;
                          So stick to the fight when your hardest hit,
                          It's when things seem worst that you must not quit!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Crusader_Zim View Post
                            In all my years of bodybuilding, this is a first. Never heard this one.

                            Supplements are designed to help complete a diet that is already filled with vitamins, amino acids, protein, carbohydrates, essential fatty acids, etc. (supplement a 3th meal for a protein shake, BCAAs, flax oil, and mixed in oats). I see more and more knuckleheads thinking that the more protein powder and creatine they take, the bigger they'll get. Then they continue getting their calories from Doritos and Micky-D's.

                            If you're not eating 4-6 healthy meals everyday with ample amounts of veggies, good carbs, EFA's, protein from lean meats... you need to stop wasting your time at the local GNC and head to your grocery store.

                            I take flax oil, multivitamin, and protein shakes (twice a day)... that's it. I can't even remember the last time I had creatine.
                            Best advice so far.
                            Success is failure turned inside out
                            The silver tint of the clouds of doubt
                            And you never can tell how close you are,
                            It may be near when it seems so far;
                            So stick to the fight when your hardest hit,
                            It's when things seem worst that you must not quit!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Crusader_Zim View Post
                              In all my years of bodybuilding, this is a first. Never heard this one.

                              Supplements are designed to help complete a diet that is already filled with vitamins, amino acids, protein, carbohydrates, essential fatty acids, etc. (supplement a 3th meal for a protein shake, BCAAs, flax oil, and mixed in oats). I see more and more knuckleheads thinking that the more protein powder and creatine they take, the bigger they'll get. Then they continue getting their calories from Doritos and Micky-D's.

                              If you're not eating 4-6 healthy meals everyday with ample amounts of veggies, good carbs, EFA's, protein from lean meats... you need to stop wasting your time at the local GNC and head to your grocery store.

                              I take flax oil, multivitamin, and protein shakes (twice a day)... that's it. I can't even remember the last time I had creatine.
                              What's the role/purpose of the flax seed oil, Crusader?

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