Usplabs Jack3d

[deke11]

Today I walked in to GNC and saw they had a new pre-workout called JACK3D by USPLABS. I have a good friend that has used it and said it was a good product. I was running low on my MRI NO Black Powder so I decided to pick some JACK3D up. Holy $#!% was I amazed at what I was getting myself into. This by far has been the best pre-workout I have even used. Today was chest and this is what I did: I 315 5 sets of 5 shoulder with apart grip, 275 3 of 8 wide grip flat bench. On incline I did 235 3 sets of 10 wide grip. I was normally on 315 5 of 5 flat bench and 225 3 of 8 on incline. I also put on 4 plates on the peck deck and 2 plates on each cable exercise. I recommend this product by far. Give me some feed back if any one else has used it and getting similar results.

[Boxer4]

The placebo effect is powerful indeed.

[deke11]

Have you used it and if so how many scoops do you take??

[Boxer4]

Have you used it and if so how many scoops do you take??

No, I'm just messin' with you man. I just eat a well balanced diet and supplement with whey and vitamins. All those other supplements can be hard on the kidneys.

[JSD73]

You know what, I get the same wonderful stimulant effect from black coffee.

Keep throwing money away at GNC, these pre workout stimulants do nothing to build muscle and the body adapts rapidly to their effects. And yes, a placebo effect is a great thing.

[Nessmuk]

The only thing I get at GNC is certain specific simple products when I cannot find them elsewhere. I do not buy anything there that I did not plan to buy before walking in, and would be immediately suspicious of any product - anywhere, not pickin gon GNC here - that caught my eye so much that I 'had' to buy it before leaving the store. Research is your friend, friend.

The 'miracle' products are rarely thus. I see a lot of 'tries' as an evaluator. I'm NOT a fitness guru, but am specialized as an evaluator of those who are trying to pass LE & fire service physical fitness entrance exams. So many who pass are on uncomplicated diets & uncomplicated workouts; so many who fail are relying on some magic powder or pill or fad workout that they think will get them from 350 pounds at 5'4" to passing the test in two months. From what I see, it is individual motivation that trumps products every time. Certain products DO help for those that have the motivation & right information first.

Check some of the regulars here like Will Brink, djblank, jsd73 and so forth for exactly some of that right information. They are some real good sources - and pathways to documented research & results - for "real vs. hype".

[Dr. Peebody]

stop throwing your money away and just buy caffeine pills.....if you REALLY need something like that....

why don't you use the money you save to get yourself into a decent gym w/ a barbell in it

[usmc13]

I dont really understand the taboo around here with pre workout products. But I do think they are way overpriced, and to buy it at gnc is plain crazy. There prices are completely ridiculous. You can buy arginine and beta alinine powder in bulk, throw in some caffeine pills and you have a preworkout supplement at half the cost.

[JSD73]

I don't se a taboo around here concerning pre workout formulas. I do see a problem with people thinking they need them prior to a workout and that they are some sort of magic aide. If you are incapable of beginning a workout without a 'lift up' then IMHO you've got problems that need to be addressed before stepping into the gym.

I don't normally need a pre workout jolt, just setting foot in the gym or my garage and knowing it's me against the iron is all I need to pump myself up. I also know that these stimulant products are not what is going to build muscle or help me gain strength, that comes from what I do after my workout as well as my diet for the days, weeks, and years to come. That's the problem I see with these particular products...too many people fall for the hype, thinking it's not only the holy grail for energy, but for muscular development as well.

BTW, have you ever tasted beta alanine powder? Grape fruit juice can't cut the horrid taste so I'd recommend getting the product capped.

[usmc13]

Yea it taste awful, fortunately I am almost through with my jug. I didnt mean to offend anyone with the comment. I think that superpump, xplode, jack3d, while can give you a boost, do not help build muscle and a waste of money. I had a friend that actually thought no xplode was making him bigger.... Sometimes after work Im tired and dragging so having a protein shake and my homemade pre workout mixture can get me going...

[JSD73]

Don't sweat anyone being offended, don't think anyone is/was, but I think the main thing is, people believing these supps are the be all end all.

I myself am a former supplement junkie, over the past 23 years I've wasted thousands and while some supps are worth it, the vast majority are not. I believe everyone needs a boost now and again, nothing wrong with that. Fact is, some of the very best workouts I've ever had were ones that occurred when I didn't want to be in the gym and forced myself to go. Those were the times I actually was in the magical "zone."

I. more often than not. down a cup of black coffee prior to my workout, but I won't rely on it to get me thru it or as a condition of working out.

[Dr. Peebody]

just setting foot in the gym or my garage and knowing it's me against the iron is all I need to pump myself up.

nuff said. f Ll ck gravity.


theres no "taboo" about pre workout stuff....the simple fact is that "pump" or "rush" or what EVER is the caffeine that junk is loaded with. buy caffeine for a few dollars, or spend 50+ on some name brand crap-ola