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  • Compensated GLOCKs

    I haven't found any reviews online, and I haven't had the chance to shoot one myself, so I'm wondering if any of you have experience with any of the compensated GLOCKS. Does the compensation really make a difference, or is it all just hype? Are there any disadvantages to going with a compensated?

    What are your thoughts?

  • #2
    They DO work, but...

    There are some drawbacks. For instance, if yours is a 9 mil then you should'nt even bother; keep in mind that the effectiveness of the comp is relative to the recoil impulse (in other works, the stiffer the kick, the higher percentage of recoil is reduced); so they work fantabulous with a 40 and magic with a 10 mil. keep in mind, though, that the older tactical glocks (with the vertical ports) will darn near blind you temporarily, so go with the new ones(V-pattern). I prefer my Springfield XD tactical with the V-10 comp which is partially inset to the slide; thereby reducing the rearward gas flow and extra noise usually associated with the comp.
    "It's not how far the shot was; it's how close you were able to get."

    --Jeff Cooper

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    • #3
      Originally posted by toasterlocker
      I haven't found any reviews online, and I haven't had the chance to shoot one myself, so I'm wondering if any of you have experience with any of the compensated GLOCKS. Does the compensation really make a difference, or is it all just hype? Are there any disadvantages to going with a compensated?

      What are your thoughts?
      From what I have heard the compensated Glocks spew all kinds of hot powder residue and are definitely NOT the way to go for a duty weapon. Also if you are shooting in the dark, the flash can be pretty blinding/disorienting. I've only shot the uncompensated Glocks, so I can't comment on the difference in muzzle jump.
      Bill Cosby: Stewie, what do you think candy is made out of?
      Stewie Griffin: Sunshine and farts! What the hell kind of question is that?!

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      • #4
        Bear in mind also that those hot gases will slap you good should you have to fire one in a guarded position. I've heard one person do this with a 357 sig caliber Glock 31 and peeled flesh back off of bone on his lower cheek firing it this way. I cannot verify this but those exhaust blast would hurt!

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        • #5
          Yes...

          Originally posted by madic15al
          Bear in mind also that those hot gases will slap you good should you have to fire one in a guarded position. I've heard one person do this with a 357 sig caliber Glock 31 and peeled flesh back off of bone on his lower cheek firing it this way. I cannot verify this but those exhaust blast would hurt!
          Regardless of whether this actually happened, it is probably not a good idea to include ports on LE weapons for a few reasons (as much as I like them myself):

          1. If you need to perform slide ops and the weapon discharges; ouch.

          2. The temp. blinding in low light is not a good thing when the other guy is likely running around while he shoots back.

          3. The additional blast/sound will interfere with knowing when your partner is coming up behind you....
          "It's not how far the shot was; it's how close you were able to get."

          --Jeff Cooper

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Cerberusdog
            Regardless of whether this actually happened, it is probably not a good idea to include ports on LE weapons for a few reasons (as much as I like them myself):

            1. If you need to perform slide ops and the weapon discharges; ouch.

            2. The temp. blinding in low light is not a good thing when the other guy is likely running around while he shoots back.

            3. The additional blast/sound will interfere with knowing when your partner is coming up behind you....

            As far as #2 the LE rounds I've tested using a G22c are all low flash signature rounds and do not exhibit flash that would even bother you on follow up shots and this was done in incrementally dark to complete darkness.

            As far as #1 don't ever put your hand near the muzzle, I don't see a reason why you would ever have to.

            As far as #3 they are a little bit louder, I am sure the 10mm is a quite a bit louder but who carries a 10mm in LE anymore. The .40 S&W (short and weak)
            killed the 10mm in LE.

            If you ever shoot the gun held close to you it will burn you regardless of the low flash qualities of the round....and that is why for duty I'd pass on em.
            Trooperden, akman75, & azmichelle ignored

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            • #7
              But of course....

              Originally posted by 6233108
              As far as #2 the LE rounds I've tested using a G22c are all low flash signature rounds and do not exhibit flash that would even bother you on follow up shots and this was done in incrementally dark to complete darkness.

              As far as #1 don't ever put your hand near the muzzle, I don't see a reason why you would ever have to.

              As far as #3 they are a little bit louder, I am sure the 10mm is a quite a bit louder but who carries a 10mm in LE anymore. The .40 S&W (short and weak)
              killed the 10mm in LE.

              If you ever shoot the gun held close to you it will burn you regardless of the low flash qualities of the round....and that is why for duty I'd pass on em.
              The aforementioned were merely possibilities and unlikely to actually happen. But if there any depts. out there who authorize/issue the comp. models I would like to hear from you; I happen to enjoy them a great deal, and perhaps a little input would persuade the powers that be that the quicker target acq. is worth it...
              "It's not how far the shot was; it's how close you were able to get."

              --Jeff Cooper

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              • #8
                I carry a Glock 21C. Just wanted to try it out and see how it would function. The upward venting of gass is a slight problem at night, so will probably get an unvented barrel from Glock. I work day shift only now but it may present a issue for night work. I shoot at an indoor range a lot and have not really found any major problem with followup shots.

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                • #9
                  Technicaly the guns are ported, not compensated. Porting is holes in the barrel that simply allows gas to escape upwards; compensation is when there is a baffle chamber that allows the escaping gas to push on the muzzle on the gun. I have a compensated gun called a "hybrid" and let me tell the recoil reduction of a ported gun dosen't even come close in comparison.

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                  • #10
                    Proper grip and stance will allow any properly trained shooter, regardless of size, to control the recoil and muzzle flip of any combat handgun. IMHO porting (compensating) a combat handgun is not worth the brawbacks.

                    1. Even with low flash ammo there will be more flash in front of your face and that is never good in a low light gunfight.

                    2. As mentioned before, if you have to fire the weapon from a close contact position (near your body) you will get hot gas and powder residue in your face and possibly in your eyes. Again, this is not good in a gunfight.

                    I have instructed hundreds of students, including small women, to shoot combat handguns and none of them needed a compensated (ported) weapon.

                    Proper GRIP and STANCE = control of recoil and muzzle flip.

                    Regards,

                    Phoenix
                    Phoenix

                    "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from opposition; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach himself." ~Thomas Paine

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                    • #11
                      Ain't no predetermined square range in a gun fight and I hope I get the perfect grip during an "o'**** I'm about to die" draw. Porting is something that allows for a little more margin of error during the stress of a reactionary shootng and gun fights at night are so low distance affairs a little more muzzle flash isn't going to hurt anything.

                      Who shoots a handgun near their own face?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by JRT6
                        Ain't no predetermined square range in a gun fight and I hope I get the perfect grip during an "o'**** I'm about to die" draw. Porting is something that allows for a little more margin of error during the stress of a reactionary shootng and gun fights at night are so low distance affairs a little more muzzle flash isn't going to hurt anything.

                        Who shoots a handgun near their own face?
                        At distances of less than seven yards (where most gunfights occur) and under the dynamic conditions of a gunfight, a compensated handgun will not help you succeed. In low light condition, at close range, more muzzle flash is the last thing you want. Why do you think law enforcement ammo is designed to be
                        Phoenix

                        "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from opposition; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach himself." ~Thomas Paine

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                        • #13
                          [QUOTE=Phoenix]At distances of less than seven yards (where most gunfights occur) and under the dynamic conditions of a gunfight, a compensated handgun will not help you succeed. In low light condition, at close range, more muzzle flash is the last thing you want. Why do you think law enforcement ammo is designed to be

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by JRT6
                            A few departments in my area have carried ported glocks for some years and muzzle flash has never been an issue in seven yards. At that distance one is much to target foused too see anything else. When a cop is pulling the trigger as fast as they can under fight or flight reaction the porting can the difference between keeping the gun on target or not a CQB..
                            A few departments in the U.S. still issue revolvers (my agency only banned them recently) and they are not a problem a seven yards either. Relying on the handgun choice of law enforcement agencies as a test of performance or effectiveness is futile. NYPD has 12 pound triggers on their Glocks, Is that because that is the best trigger in a gunfight? NO! It's to compensate for a lack of training (trigger finger discipline.)
                            Phoenix

                            "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from opposition; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach himself." ~Thomas Paine

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                            • #15
                              Dude I can't say what you see in your world ain't true. I see the ported guns at schools everywhere and yes technically they are in the minority and frankly I don't give a rat's ***. The point is that you made several suppositions about muzzle flash and not being able to see **** in hypothetical shootouts that no ones ever been in. Here's a fact for you:

                              My departments range is used by several departments. When I run range 80% of the course of fire is low light. Departments with ported guns have never had problems with multiple targets or target identification, burning their faces or whatever other hypothetical problem you can think of. You keep harping on loosing night vision when dude we work in the metro area around here and there is no night vision. Take a ported out, turn the lights down low but not off and see for your self.

                              I don't care what other agencies do: didn't you'r mother ever use the analogy of jumping off a bridge...

                              Bill Wilson was the biggest gamer of his time and he started the IDPA it was because he counldn't win anymore in IPSC.

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