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  • Delta784
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    Originally posted by GlenS
    I doubt you are getting this velocity from the short barrel of the Glock 26. Have you chronographed it? If I can find the ammo I'll chrono it and post the results here. I don't see much Cor-Bon ammop around here.
    No, that's the advertised velocity, I believe the test gun was a Glock 19.

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  • GlenS
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    Originally posted by Delta784
    Don't discount the 10gr difference in bullet weight.

    I'm in favor of higher velocity versus bullet weight, but when a caliber can offer a higher velocity AND a higher bullet weight, I have to go with that.

    My PD carries .40 S&W, I would much prefer a 135gr bullet weight, but they wimped-out and went with the 180gr Federal LE load.

    My off-duty gun is a Glock 26 with Cor-Bon loads, a 115gr bullet at about 1350fps. I think that has a 90+% one-shot stop rating.
    I doubt you are getting this velocity from the short barrel of the Glock 26. Have you chronographed it? If I can find the ammo I'll chrono it and post the results here. I don't see much Cor-Bon ammop around here.

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  • JRT6
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    Once again the IWBA has extensively tested the .357 sig and the 9mm +p+ and come to the conlcusion I listed. Evan Marshall says the same thing if you follow his system with it's "one shot stop" ratings.

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  • Delta784
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    Originally posted by KenW.
    Not much difference though.
    Don't discount the 10gr difference in bullet weight.

    I'm in favor of higher velocity versus bullet weight, but when a caliber can offer a higher velocity AND a higher bullet weight, I have to go with that.

    My PD carries .40 S&W, I would much prefer a 135gr bullet weight, but they wimped-out and went with the 180gr Federal LE load.

    My off-duty gun is a Glock 26 with Cor-Bon loads, a 115gr bullet at about 1350fps. I think that has a 90+% one-shot stop rating.

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  • KenW.
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    Not quite. The Federal 9BPLE +P+ drives a 115gr bullet at 1300fps, the .357 Sig drives a 125gr bullet at 1350fps.
    There should be about 100 ft/lbs difference in muzzle energy too, in favor of the .357 Sig, by the pmc and remington ballistic charts.

    Not much difference though.

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  • GlenS
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    Prefer 45, carry 40 S&W but would feel adequately protected with a 9MM.

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  • Delta784
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    Originally posted by JRT6
    .357 sig and the +p+ 9mm have the same ballistics.
    Not quite.

    The Federal 9BPLE +P+ drives a 115gr bullet at 1300fps, the .357 Sig drives a 125gr bullet at 1350fps.

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  • JRT6
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    .357 sig and the +p+ 9mm have the same ballistics.

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  • ViceSgt
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    This is just one of many examples of why I will always carry the 45 acp.

    The M1911 and the M1911A1 pistols were incredibly robust and durable. From the muddy trenches of "No Man

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  • CQBARMS
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    .40 S&W or .357 Sig
    EOT

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  • JRT6
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    I agree with your last statement that is a personal choice and I would a subjective one at that.

    However; Guns&Ammo is a rag and all but one of the agencies you listed use the handgun as "secondary" weapon. If I carried and AR 15 with 300 rounds I wouldn't care much if my pistol only held 8 rounds. As it is were police officers and 90% our sidearm is it.

    If you had 9mm over penetration problems then you guys weren't testing the light +P+ loads, those tend to underpenetrate if anything.
    It was said before that the International Wounds Balistics association has years of scientific testing on the 9mm and is the definative source of information.
    Last edited by JRT6; 01-17-2005, 11:07 AM.

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  • KenW.
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    Well now, That's not very friendly, is it? Obviously, I'd prefer not to be shot with either, that's why I wear a vest at work.

    All I know is what our testers decided on. My department
    Last edited by KenW.; 01-17-2005, 11:06 AM.

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  • JRT6
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    Take a shot the right lung with a 9mm and shot to the left with a .45 and then see it you can tell the diference.

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  • KenW.
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    If a 9mm works better with modern ammo, then so will a .45.

    I'm growing weary of this. Let's try something new. Rather than me proving myself right, how about someone disprove me?
    Last edited by KenW.; 01-16-2005, 08:14 PM.

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  • JRT6
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    Where is it scientificaly proven that you have to hit a BG with more 9mm bullets than .45's to cause incapcitation or death when using modern HP ammo?

    "conjecture, anctidotes, cliches, or suposition," means proof other than "I hear this" or "so and so says that" or "a 9mm may expand but a .45 will never shrink".
    Last edited by JRT6; 01-16-2005, 07:21 PM.

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