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    just wondering to those experts out there that i own a mag. 357 and im in the process of buying a beretta from a friend and i know in fact that power wise the mag. 357 is superior but i heard that the beretta 9mm is good also. too you all out there please let me know more about the beretta 9mm over the other 9mmrs and the mag.357. thanks.........james.

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    Your question is very vague. Without an idea of what the caliber is intended for, it's impossible to answer.
    Caution and worry never accomplished anything.

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    • #3
      The Beretta 92 type handguns are good guns. 9mm is a good round, cheap to shoot with FMJ's means lots of low $$$ practice. For a carry/defense round the Winchester Ranger 127 grain +p+ is excellent as is the Speer Gold Dot 124 grain +p. Federal also has a personal defense 135 grain round and their new HST 9mm rounds are good too.
      With the AWB soon to be history there should be plenty of hicap mags for the Beretta's floating around for low prices. The 357 magnum is powerful but you are dealing with a revolver unless you are talking about the 357 Sig round. 9mm and 357 have the same diameter slug, the 357 is loaded to higher velocity but it also has more flash and recoil than a 9mm.
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      • #4
        fine thanks for your reply; yes im talking about the s&w 357 magnum. i know in fact that its very powerfull i use this weapon for practicing in the shooting range and use it to compete in ppc and defense. but im getting the beretta 9mm and would like to know wich one is more reliable cause i want to choose wich one would be the best for me to carry around for my personnal use. thanks..........

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        • #5
          I am certainly no expert, but I have some experience with both guns. My dept. went to the Beretta 92f 9mm in 1989. After 13yrs with a S&W 38, that was quite a change. I know some people don't like the Beretta because of the external safety, but that's all I knew, so I got used to it with practice. It was nice knowing I had 15+1 in the weapon with 2 15 round mags available. Remember, there is no magic 1 stop round no matter what anyone tells you. A good weapon, robust ammo and practice, practice is what makes the round work.

          I also have a S&W model 66 2 1/2" 357 magnum. I never carried it on duty but have shot at the range since I bought it 77. I can handle the recoil, but it is a lot different than the Beretta, plus, more importantly, it only carries six rounds. In this day of multiple suspects, the more the better.

          I believe you will enjoy the Beretta as I have. As a matter of fact, I took my son and went to a range to today. I shot both guns, with only 38cal in the mag as I didn't want to deal with the mag rounds. I hadn't shot the Beretta since I retired 1yr ago and it shot as smooth and accurately as it always did. Love it, that's why I bought it from the dept. when I retired. Enjoy and sorry this is so long.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by scorpion
            fine thanks for your reply; yes im talking about the s&w 357 magnum. i know in fact that its very powerfull i use this weapon for practicing in the shooting range and use it to compete in ppc and defense. but im getting the beretta 9mm and would like to know wich one is more reliable cause i want to choose wich one would be the best for me to carry around for my personnal use. thanks..........
            Revolvers are generally more reliable than semi auto's.
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            • #7
              If you're looking for pure reliability, it's going to be the revolver -- just fewer things to go wrong. Of course, you have to have a certain confidence in your abilities to make your shots count if you carry a revolver, as it carries 1/2 to 1/3 the ammunition capacity of most autos.

              Life's all about trade-offs.
              Caution and worry never accomplished anything.

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              • #8
                Honestly, get both if you can afford it.

                The Beretta should be your main weapon, simply because it has more ammo. If it jams or fails to fire/eject/whatever, go to the .357mag to end the threat.
                If you are a terrorist, beware, because your last day was yesterday.

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                • #9
                  Want .357 Magnum handgun statistics form a semi auto that is not much bigger than a 9mm ?

                  Then consider the .357SIG caliber.

                  This is the .40 S&W that has been necked down to 9mm bullets. It shoots the 124 or 125 grain bullet at speeds up to 1450 FPS...which is identical to the mighty .357Mag but it does it with more shots...

                  I have a Sig P226 in .357 Sig. LEO mags hold 12 rounds, others hold 10. Its a very accurate gun that shoots well. Recoil is not much more than a 9mm.


                  Most pistols are now chambered for the round.
                  Many police depts. have given up the 9mm in favor of the .357 Sig. Its the best of both worlds...
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                  • #10
                    My lil' sis has one and darn if that isn't one of the sweetest shooting guns. An added benifit of the 357 Sig is that it is most reliable as far as feeding the rounds due to the bottle neck case.
                    "Respect for religion must be reestablished. Public debt should be reduced. The arrogance of public officials must be curtailed. Assistance to foreign lands must be stopped or we shall bankrupt ourselves. The people should be forced to work and not depend on government for subsistence." - Cicero, 60 B.C.

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                    • #11
                      6233108, I disagree about the reliability of revolvers vs. semi-autos. Based upon what our rangemaster/armorer at the Academy, where we had both revolvers and semi-autos found out, the facts are:

                      Semi-autos stop firing more frequently, but 99% of those problems are cleared in seconds by the shooter, with no further intervention. Thus, these are mere interuptions in the 'flow' of fire.

                      Revolvers have fewer problems, but when they do, it took an average of 12 min. of armorer time (plus Range Officer time before that) to solve the problem. Thus, the gun is effectivly out of service until the armeror gets his hands on it.

                      Depending on your definition of 'jam', I would rather have a semi that I can get back in the fight NOW, vs. a revolver that, when it dies, has to go to a gunsmith to get unstuck.
                      "A man who has nothing which he cares about more than he does about his personal safety is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the existing of better men than himself."
                      John Stuart Mill

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                      • #12
                        Sleuth, true enough but once companies started to getting away from mounting the firing pin directly on the hammer it solved one of the revolvers big malfunctions...the broken firing pin. I put 15,000 or so rounds through my first issue gun a model 19-2 4" barrel that had had been previously issued, went into service 1981, I got it in 1990. The gun never malfunctioned, it shot benched full cylinder groups of 1.25" @25Yds. The guy who got my gun had it at the range about a year later and the topstrap blew right off...ending the distinguished career of the finest gun I ever carried. RIP Ol' blue
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                        • #13
                          As a firearms instructor, the revolver is easier to learn and use. You put the bullets in the chamber, close it, aim it and pull the trigger. With a semi-auto, you load the magazine, insert the magazine, charge the weapon, maybe take the safety off, aim it and fire. Then, if you have an SA/DA, you have to remember to decock before you reholster. As far as dependability, I'll take a Glock over any revolver. If it jams, or fails to feed, or otherwise malfunctions,it relatively easy to clear. If a revolver gets fouled-up and the cylinder is out of time, you're left with a metal brick.
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                          • #14
                            Though the revolver can be shot by anyone, including someone who doesn't grip the gun stiffly causing it to not cycle properly.
                            "Respect for religion must be reestablished. Public debt should be reduced. The arrogance of public officials must be curtailed. Assistance to foreign lands must be stopped or we shall bankrupt ourselves. The people should be forced to work and not depend on government for subsistence." - Cicero, 60 B.C.

                            For California police academy notes go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CABasicPolice/

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                            • #15
                              Once again, we are trying to evade software problems (training) with Hardware. No one should carry a handgun without training.
                              "A man who has nothing which he cares about more than he does about his personal safety is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the existing of better men than himself."
                              John Stuart Mill

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