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    Can a 1911 style pistol (Springfield Loaded, specifically) be dry fired with out damage, or do you need dummy rounds?

    I know most revolvers can be dry fired at will with no issues. I also know that some of my autos (like my USP 45) specifically say not to dry fire on an empty chamber or risk firing pin damage.
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    While it is never good on a gun to dryfire on an empty chamber, pretty much any quality 1911, like your Springfield with a Titanium firing pin, should be just fine. I have to do it during competition when I clear my Springfield 1911 GI.

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    • #3
      There is no risk. The firing pin will strike empty air. The pin itself will not make contact with anything (even along its full length without resistance from a primer), and the spring will return the pin to its static state.

      Dry fire away.

      1911 information is far more plentiful here:

      http://forums.1911forum.com/index.php
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      • #4
        No problemo.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Jere View Post
          When all else fails, PM jwise. He, is the master. Call him Sensei.
          I'm no master; please don't call me sensei...

          Surf says 'no problemo', and I don't have any reason to disagree. Modern handguns are not bothered by extensive dry-firing, and neither is the 1911 (thank you, JMB!)

          If you want, buy a few snap caps and use those when dry-firing.
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          • #6
            If you ask enough, some will say it will cause damage. I don't believe it will.

            I have bought snap caps for malfunction clearance not for dry firing.
            I trust my life with J. M. Browning's design, the 1911.

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            • #7
              Thanks for the replies, guys. I bought this thing to use as a comp gun with my department pistol team. From prior year's experience shooting the same competitions with revolvers, I have found that dry fire can improve your scores immensly...
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              • #8
                Nice pistol to start with. Springers can go a long way. Dummy rounds or not, dry fire should be a very big part of anyone's regular training.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SoCalSheriff View Post
                  have found that dry fire can improve your scores immensly...
                  +1

                  I don't shoot much off hand, but dry fire off handed whenever I get a chance. The other night I figured I'd get a few off hand rounds off and I surprised myself that I actually got some sort of recognizable grouping.
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                  • #10
                    While dry firing a 1911 (like most centerfire handguns) doesn't seem to cause any damage, I was surprised to hear from a 1911 instructor that repeatedly cycling the slide on unloaded pistols is strongly discouraged. Something about harming the engagement of the sear? He suggested that if this is done (with an unloaded 1911), the trigger should be depressed fully to avoid damage.
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                    • #11
                      Not "cycling" the slide, but dropping it on an empty chamber with no mag can damage it.

                      What happens is there is nothing to retard the speed of the slide and it causes the hammer to slam into the sear beating your trigger job into nothingness.

                      Always lower the slide with your hand. If you are doing reload drill, use a magazine of dummy rounds.

                      Dry firing will not damage a quality 1911 and should be encouraged. If you want to master any weapon you will spend several hours dry firing for every hour you spend on the range.

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