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    Ok, so I've moved into a new home out in the country.. closest grocery store is 10 minutes away WTF man... anyways....i've been here only a month and I've already killed a copperhead and 3 black snakes(nothing racial.. i would have killed them if they were white too )...seen a bobcat, deer, racoons, and a coyote... all within a 100 yards of my back deck...

    I've never hunted nor do I have a "hunting rifle" so I'm just going to use my M4. I know there are better weapon choices, but I'm comfortable with it and know how to use it...

    I have little dogs plus a German Shepherd so I'm really looking forward to eliminating this bobcat and coyote problem...

    What ammo is best for taking down wildlife?

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    I don't understand the "bobcat and coyote problem" if they stay 100 yds from the house. You moved into their neighborhood. If they are coming inside your house, garage, etc, then you may want to take appropriate action.
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    • #3
      69gr BTHP...

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      • #4
        What is the twist on your rifle?

        If the Varmints become and issue, for small game up to Coyote size the .223 will work nicely and just about any load will suffice. I would prefer a soft point type round. Higher velocity is a plus. Black Hills, Hornaday, Remington etc... make good varmint specific rounds, but you should be GTG with whatever you have. Like jwise, I have also taken wild boar with .223 but it isn't my first choice for the bigger fellas.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Surf View Post
          Like jwise, I have also taken wild boar with .223 but it isn't my first choice for the bigger fellas.
          I zapped that hog in the head. I doubt a shoulder shot would have taken it down...

          For light varmints, ballistic tip ammo is good.
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          • #6
            I've never given much thought to hunting critters with my AR... don't get me wrong its a good hunting rifle, but not for critters.
            I make my living on Irish welfare.

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            • #7
              Be careful of what you kill as they might be the predator that is keeping the dangerous critters from your property.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by SoCalSheriff View Post
                I don't understand the "bobcat and coyote problem" if they stay 100 yds from the house. You moved into their neighborhood. If they are coming inside your house, garage, etc, then you may want to take appropriate action.
                Originally posted by David Hineline View Post
                Be careful of what you kill as they might be the predator that is keeping the dangerous critters from your property.
                The house had been sitting for almost 5 years and heavy brush had grown too close to the house...

                I cleared out about an acre of small trees and heavy shrubs... I have animals and a family, the added visibility is a must... do you know what the wife would do to me if something happened to her dogs?...

                A snake, which is the only other animal I want killed, is probably the last thing a coyote or bobcat would eat considering there are many other small varmints around...

                LOL @ waiting for them to come into my house...

                Surf,
                Twist is 1:9

                Thanks for the replies.... the wife is so worried about these animals I think I have her convinced I need night vision....

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                • #9
                  I agree with JWise. Keep your shots to 100 yds or less. How good a shot are you?

                  jim

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                  • #10
                    I'm using an eotech 553 so I really don't plan on going further than that...

                    I'm a target shooter not a hunter..

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                    • #11
                      Your family is going to have to learn that living in the country pets are not a long term commitment, 3-5 yrs is doing good. House dogs and fenced yard dogs live a long time.

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                      • #12
                        Don't use frangible ammo on small critters.

                        I took out a possum with a frangible round (the same ammo the Coast Guard allegedly uses). It was messy. I switched back to ball ammo for them and the raccoons.

                        If the coyotes are hungry enough, they'll come right in to "visit" with your dogs. We had a lot of coyotes here about 5 years back. They killed a lot of cats and a few dogs. A few coyotes will take out a dog. If you have cats, you probably need to turn them into in-door pets only. Luckily for us, the coyotes thinned out a bit- I'm not sure why. Back when they were plentiful, they gave us some problems during foal season. I never considered using 5.56 on them though I'm sure it works just fine. I went right to the 8mm. That definitely works.

                        Don't bother trying to co-exist with them. Like all predators, even if they agree to stay out of your yard, they lie and they'll renege on the agreement. When food gets scarce, they'll eat your animals without a second thought.
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                        • #13
                          The last few posts reminded me of a fox story a friend told on himself. Rather than hijack this thread I posted it here.

                          http://forums.officer.com/forums/sho...20#post1852120
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by jannino View Post
                            I've already killed a copperhead and 3 black snakes(nothing racial.. i would have killed them if they were white too )
                            LOL.

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                            • #15
                              Just remember -- those snakes are helping to keep your rodent population in check.

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