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  • Any insight on Glock 22 light strike Problems?

    My large Big City department has just announced a special order for a mandatory turn in of our issued Glock 22's to replace the firing pin. The Glocks covered were issued between 2005-2008. I received mine in July of 2005, so I have to take mine to the armory tomorrow at work. The dept will also replace the firing pins on firearms purchased by Officers during that time frame.

    Anyone have any insight into the problem? My guess is light striking of bullets. My issued glock 22 has probably 7000-10000 rounds fired through it, with probably less than 5 misfires or stovepipes during that time. I've kinda chalked those up to bad ammo or user error. I also just transitioned to a Glock 21SF, so I'm not worried about it.
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    How often do your armorer's do a detailed cleaning of your Glocks? "Junk" in the firing pin chamber can cause firing pin related issues. I have seen them that were growing green stuff. This can be caused by dirty ammo and or over lubrication, for example. Just a thought.
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    • #3
      I wonder if the teflon nickel is flaking off of some of your pins....

      bc

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      • #4
        You have to shoot your duty ammo every six months, so the ammo isn't the problem. To be honest, I'm not sure what they have found, but I'll ask tomorrow. As far as problem guns.. we are talking about 2000-2500 guns that have been issued since that time... plus the guns that Officers purchased on their own.

        With approx 10,000 sworn Officers, it would be pretty hard to clean up everyones guns on a regular basis.... and we are not allowed to break down our duty guns beyond field stripping for cleaning and lubrication.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by B Coyote View Post
          I wonder if the teflon nickel is flaking off of some of your pins....

          bc
          I have noticed that the nickel has flaked on the top of the spring loaded pin that sits right next to the feed ramp on the slide. I let them know so they can address the issue.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by ABC144 View Post
            How often do your armorer's do a detailed cleaning of your Glocks? "Junk" in the firing pin chamber can cause firing pin related issues. I have seen them that were growing green stuff. This can be caused by dirty ammo and or over lubrication, for example. Just a thought.
            The only light strike problems I've had with my Glock 23 was when I was putting a ton of rounds through it going through the Academy. I was getting constant light strikes until one of the instructors stipped it down and cleaned the gunk off the firing pin. Never had a light strike after that.
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            • #7
              Sending the link to this thread to our training division....we are issued G22's as well.
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              • #8
                I believe that the strikers are not supposed to get ANY lubrication. I check mine periodically to remove gunk, but reinstall it dry.
                Mike

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by LE2BE View Post
                  My large Big City department has just announced a special order for a mandatory turn in of our issued Glock 22's to replace the firing pin. The Glocks covered were issued between 2005-2008. I received mine in July of 2005, so I have to take mine to the armory tomorrow at work. The dept will also replace the firing pins on firearms purchased by Officers during that time frame.

                  Anyone have any insight into the problem? My guess is light striking of bullets. My issued glock 22 has probably 7000-10000 rounds fired through it, with probably less than 5 misfires or stovepipes during that time. I've kinda chalked those up to bad ammo or user error. I also just transitioned to a Glock 21SF, so I'm not worried about it.

                  The city began to issue the G22 in Oct of 05. Any academy class prior to had the option of transitioning to the Glock after being issued a 9mm Beretta but they had to pay for it themselves. These guns are still covered for dept repair.

                  And according to the armory guys the main problem was over-lubing the gun, gunk building up around the firing pin. They didn't replace most of the pins, just cleaned them, a small percentage had the pins replaced.
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                  • #10
                    I just had the same problem with my glock 21 at my qual. I cleaned my gun and now fires great.

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                    • #11
                      LE2BE - If you get any info, let me know. PM is fine. We've got 22's which we acquired last year. If your guys have an official message from Glock, I'd like to try and get a copy of it. Going to Armorer school next week, so I'll ask during class if I know what the issue is. Thanks.
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                      • #12
                        Just took my gun in today. They had four Glock USA employees performing the repairs, cleaning and maintenance to our guns. Turns out the problem is a maintenance issue. Just like stated above, over oiling or cleaning solutions tend to gunk up the firing pin and firing pin chamber. This has caused a couple guns to light strike since the gunk inhibited the movement of the pin. Also... some of the guns showed indications of wear to the firing pin tip itself. Glock performed full inspections of the guns, cleaning and parts replacement.

                        In my case, they replaced the firing pin (slightly worn), fully cleaned, lubed and tested for operation. I then was given 10 rounds to shoot at the range to make sure it was good to go.

                        I think our main problem is the lack of a program for maintenance of our duty weapons. We are given training on cleaning our weapons... and lubrication. We are not given instruction on full disassembly to remove and clean the firing pin. In fact, we are forbidden from taking our guns apart or altering them in any way. All parts replacement has to be done by the armory. This is good for most, since not everyone has the mechanical ability to put it back to together.... especially when your life depends on it. Glock recommends a complete strip of the weapon with firing pin removal at least once a year.
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                        • #13
                          Makes me feel better that it's mostly a maintenance issue. Too many people try and run a pistol wet. Generally, in LE we don't use them often enough to require much more than a small drop of oil on the few metal friction points on the Glock.

                          I can understand why your department wouldn't want the cops doing more than field-stripping. Any more than that, to include replacing parts, should be logged in your Armorer's log book.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Sgt. Slaughter View Post
                            ...Generally, in LE we don't use them often enough to require much more than a small drop of oil on the few metal friction points on the Glock.
                            That's all that's required, no matter how you use them. Just a few drops.
                            Mike

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