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  • H&K mp5 in .40 or Rem. 870 with slugs

    So I've been given a choice, H&K mp5 in .40 cal or a remington 870 with a rifled barrel using slugs.

    Opinions? I'm trained up in both.
    Illegitimi non carborundum - Don't let the bastards grind you down.

  • #2
    Take the H&K as issued and bring your own 870.

    One you can buy for $300 at a pawn shop, the other you can't.

    Why have one when you can have both.

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    • #3
      I've never shot a MP5 in 40, but can you make an accurate 100 yard shot with it?

      You can with a shotgun slug... and the right sights.
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      • #4
        I'd have to go with the MP5, you can put more shots downrange faster, stay on target better with less recoil and it would be easier to handle indoors or other compact spaces.

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        • #5
          I would also take the MP5 and get your own Shotgun!!!
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          • #6
            Originally posted by farrellsm77 View Post
            I would also take the MP5 and get your own Shotgun!!!
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            • #7
              Depends on whatn you are using it for? Building searches MP5. Anything longer than 30 yards probably the shotgun..........
              The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Monkeybomb View Post
                Depends on whatn you are using it for? Building searches MP5. Anything longer than 30 yards probably the shotgun..........
                It ALWAYS comes down to what the expected application is.

                For instance, the MP5 would be for clearing buildings or something involving one of those "tactical" scenarios where you could move in a group.

                If you're talking more "Patrol" kinda work, the shotgun would be invaluable! Imagine doing a high risk stop and having to shoot into a vehicle. It would be SO much better to throw 1oz slugs than a .40 round. Also, as stated before, you get a bit more "reach" with the shotgun. MP5's are not made for distance.
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                • #9
                  If you are going to receive copious amounts of training to utilize a fully automatic weapon, then take the MP5.

                  If you are going to get "qualified" and throw it in the trunk....take the shotguns and save some lawsuits. A full auto weapon is not something that you can get proficient with quickly or cheaply. It takes a boatload of ammo and trigger time.

                  The 870 is an awsome weapon even on an entry team. You can still make a "cross room" headshot with 00 buck and you can "select slug" if you suddenly find mr badguy holed up behind that refrigerator or steel cored door.

                  There is a reason my 870 still rides in the trunk next to my M4.
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                  • #10
                    Thanks for the replies, I'm already specialty weapon qualified on the MP5, and general qualified for the 870. I have a 870 at home with buckshot in it for that wetdream burglar, but my dept is picky, won't let us use buy and carry the exact same model of weapon they issue, be it m4, 870 or mp5.

                    I'm going with the mp5, I can make a head shot at 75 yards with it and now that i'll be issued one, I can practice as much as I want. I'll stick with that until I get selected for our AR school.

                    Our mp5's are single shot fire, no auto except our tac team.
                    Illegitimi non carborundum - Don't let the bastards grind you down.

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                    • #11
                      Ouch, a single shot MP5 is a big pistol. I wonder who had their head up their *** when they made that decision.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Caspertoo View Post
                        So I've been given a choice, H&K mp5 in .40 cal or a remington 870 with a rifled barrel using slugs.

                        Opinions? I'm trained up in both.
                        Are you serious? You work for a department that actually "provides" you with an ungodly expensive mp5? Take it, it is one of the best sub guns made. Then buy your own pump slug gun with your police discount. I'd say thts a no brainer.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Caspertoo View Post
                          ... but my dept is picky, won't let us use buy and carry the exact same model of weapon they issue, be it m4, 870 or mp5...
                          Mossy 590.

                          Finding alternative shotgun = Problem Solved.

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                          • #14
                            Oh no doubt the mp5 is a very expensive subgun, and yes it's a large pistol, but it's effective when used right.

                            My dept issues all our weaponry except for our back-ups. The 870's they will be issuing are the ones we used to use as Bean Bag guns before we moved to 40mm sponge rounds, so they will be older 870's with new rifled barrels.
                            Illegitimi non carborundum - Don't let the bastards grind you down.

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                            • #15
                              I am going to side with the MP 5 and get your own S/G. Why only have one when two is affordable?

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