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  • letshearit4blue
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    Originally posted by ChrisG
    i didn't attend this summer, had work...hoping to get time off for this yrs
    I'll see ya there

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  • ChrisG
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    i didn't attend this summer, had work...hoping to get time off for this yrs

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  • AmericanMan
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    Originally posted by letshearit4blue
    Yeah, that would be interesting. Send me a PM if you wanna talk about it more.

    You must be from the Greece post then.... I know some of your explorers, and trust me, we have stereotypes about you as much as you have about us!

    That kid must've gone to the academy this summer?
    NO he did not go this summer!!

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  • letshearit4blue
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    Originally posted by ChrisG
    no dis ment, since i haven't joined the MCSO explorers its only hear say...some explorer mentioned it in one of our meetings, maybe i shouldn't have taken his word

    it would be cool if we could get an event organized w/ both posts
    Yeah, that would be interesting. Send me a PM if you wanna talk about it more.

    You must be from the Greece post then.... I know some of your explorers, and trust me, we have stereotypes about you as much as you have about us!

    That kid must've gone to the academy this summer?

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  • ChrisG
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    no dis ment, since i haven't joined the MCSO explorers its only hear say...some explorer mentioned it in one of our meetings, maybe i shouldn't have taken his word

    it would be cool if we could get an event organized w/ both posts
    Last edited by ChrisG; 11-02-2005, 06:20 PM.

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  • AmericanMan
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    Originally posted by ChrisG
    Monroe...actually our department lets us do more...MCSO explorers go paintballing (from what i hear), we go to the academy and run PRISM and get to shoot 5 rounds becasue one of our explorers' parent is a firearms instructor for RPD...but i'm looking into the SO as well, just want to see what else they do. Not sure if i'm gonna have the time tho; got work, school, and explorers
    Yes, We do all of those things too. I know Bob [email protected]#$'s daughter is in your post. 5 rounds is nothing. We can do live fire. Who told you we only do paintball?

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  • letshearit4blue
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    Originally posted by ChrisG
    Monroe...actually our department lets us do more...MCSO explorers go paintballing (from what i hear), we go to the academy and run PRISM and get to shoot 5 rounds
    Hey wait a second did you just dis my post?
    And my slowness in picking up on this in no way represents our other members...

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  • letshearit4blue
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    Originally posted by ChrisG
    Monroe...actually our department lets us do more...MCSO explorers go paintballing (from what i hear), we go to the academy and run PRISM and get to shoot 5 rounds becasue one of our explorers' parent is a firearms instructor for RPD...but i'm looking into the SO as well, just want to see what else they do. Not sure if i'm gonna have the time tho; got work, school, and explorers
    Hey, are you in Greece explorers? Cuz I've been hearin' they've been saying we do jack and just play laser tag!
    LOL "from what you hear"... We tried to go earlier this year, I didn't keep up on it though I think just a couple went. We DID go to laser tag... that was fun :-)

    yup we've been trying to arrange paintballing, Us VS. SWAT team. hahaha they'll own us...

    Did you go to explorer academy this past year? We go to PSTF and we ran PRISM too, unfortunately it was the ONE meeting I missed this year and the one I wanted to go to most.

    Hey, you should join our forums, go to our site www.geocities.com/mcso604
    mmm I dunno how people here'd take an explorer from another post joining up, but hey, ya never know.
    If you've got any questions about it, just send me a PM.

    Sorry for the hijack, everyone

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  • ChrisG
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    the Boy Scouts of American from what i heard do not allow any weapons to be carried (maybe a pocket knife) and as Hailstorm said "Learning For Life organization explitictly bans any weapons to be carried/used by an explorer." So if your organization is a member of those to you are not 'supposed' to carry

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  • AnthonyM83
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    If explorer has several written recommendations from officers, advisors, and watch commanders based on behavior on ride-alongs and in emergency situations, is over 18, allowed to by law, and can only use it if under active physical battery, then I would approve.

    I hear from explorers who carry it, I hear from people concerned about it, I haven't heard from agencies that have had problems with it, though. Also, if you restrict the use of the OC tigther than the law restricts it, even if there's a wobbler decision and the explorer decides wrong, he'd just be breaking policy, but not a law.
    Last edited by AnthonyM83; 10-08-2005, 03:58 AM.

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  • ChrisG
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    Originally posted by letshearit4blue
    Chris, I see you are in NY. Which county are you in?
    Ya know us sheriff explorers have more fun
    Monroe...actually our department lets us do more...MCSO explorers go paintballing (from what i hear), we go to the academy and run PRISM and get to shoot 5 rounds becasue one of our explorers' parent is a firearms instructor for RPD...but i'm looking into the SO as well, just want to see what else they do. Not sure if i'm gonna have the time tho; got work, school, and explorers

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  • letshearit4blue
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    Originally posted by ChrisG

    I'm looking into joining a sheriff's department one and see how that works...i like my local one cause i know the officers and such but some explorers are just annoying and a few cannot be officers based on medical problems
    Chris, I see you are in NY. Which county are you in?
    Ya know us sheriff explorers have more fun

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  • TPD Cadet
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    Im not saying I think we should carry OC (There really is no need). But my group is mature enough to do it if it were to happen. Maturity is not an issue here. I feel for ya Chris, I know an explorer post in this area that is more of a daycare than anything, but we are here to learn law enforcement legalities, and patrol proceedures, etc.

    Chris, Good luck getting into that SO's post.

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  • BikeCop501
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    I see where yall are coming from with all this, age and maturity is the deal breaker on this. If you post are not a "top standard" post, then don

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  • ChrisG
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    Originally posted by onyx1976
    I second that notion, but what if, with proper training mabey???
    i say no based solely on age...explorers are (at least in our case) no longer allowed to be explorers at 20...(can still remain on as junior advisors). If they want to get pepper spray or w/e and get training and carry it on thier own time that is fine. But explorers should never take action, and are not offically allowed to carry anything. In our post if u even attempt to u will be gone before you can get out an explaination.


    Originally posted by letshearit4blue
    Sometimes things come to you whether you like it or not.
    And, I don't know about other posts, but we are not constantly at the elbow of an LEO who can "protect us" if something goes bad. They're not always within eyeshot, sometimes not within earshot, and not every post has radios.
    Its unsafe, yes, I'm just saying how it is, I'm not saying that's how it should be.
    i am aware of that...we run secruity assistance at a fair in town and don't always have a radio and such. We had a small incident with someone acting aggressively towards an explorer. The explorer did what he was supposed to do, he backed away and sought out an officer. There is a chance of something happens but carrying OC will elevate the level of violence. Police are not only trained in OC use, cause after the OC is used the situation isn't over, they still have to go hands on. Injuries will occuring 99% of the time if some young kid (under 20) attempts to OC a older adult. And remeber OC doesn't stop everyone, officers have to fight through it in the academy and citizens can fight the effects. All explorers should just back away, because they hold no extra authority, and its a HUGE liablity issue

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