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  • DR Fronkensteen
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    I work in retail, and have encountered similar instances on shoplifting. I will not put my life at risk to stop some punk whos getting away with $30 of stuff. Not worth it. I would probobly get my rear kicked or get sued, like what was mentioned above.
    What I did do was I calmly followed the shoplifter at a distance, and wrote down the license plate number of the car he got into. He was in cuffs 3 hours later.

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  • Dr. Peebody
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    Originally posted by FiremanMike View Post
    I do now, has to do with reading material.
    i believe we have a weiner!

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  • Ceridwen
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    Despite any actual physical danger to you...In our litigious society until you have the protection of government immunity it is probably never a good idea to tackle someone. Remember, no good deed goes unpunished.

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  • FiremanMike
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    Originally posted by Dr. Peebody View Post
    TRIVIA QUESTION:
    can anyone tell me what the only word in the english language to have 3 sets of double letters back to back?
    (by 'double letter' i mean like "jeep" has double e's)
    I do now, has to do with reading material.

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  • Dr. Peebody
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    Originally posted by C-11 View Post
    I was working my real job at the local super market tonight (Tuesday, February 24, 2009) and I made some humerus announcement about how we would be closing in five minutes, and to please finalize all purchases and make your way to the register where I was working. Then, a slightly over weight mister Joe Blow comes from now where with a basket of groceries, ready to be checked out. The store bookkeeper, comes over to ring him out for me and I would bag, we had no baggers only ourselves, and she doesn't bag. LOL. As I start joking with this guy about my goofy announcement he starts laughing and saying how funny it was. Then, he grabs his hat, assumes a dead serious face, and runs for the door, basket of remaining groceries in hand. I think, this guy is playing, he's about to turn around and start joking about the economy and how groceries should be free etc. . When he keeps going. I look at my manager, start chasing this "suspect", and my manager starts following me, passes me, contains the guy briefly, and looses the man from his grip. At this point, I was hands on with the suspect telling him to stop an relax, when he swings on my manager, my manager ducks, I drop knee level with the suspect and tackle him. He and I, the suspect, are now on the ground with the manager regaining his footing coming towards us when the suspect starts fighting with me trying to get away, and then I realized, I don't have his hands. I start flipping out telling this guy to "let me see your hands!" . I know I have to get this guys hands . I see both of them instantly, cause he quite resisting and says "i give up", I held him down, until my manager said get up. I tell the guy cross your legs, and interlace your fingers on the back of your head. He sits there, through the fight his pants came down and his shirt tore so hes begging me to let him pull his pants up etc. I say " no you cannot, sit still", my manager felt sorry and said pull them up its ok. Whatever, he gets his pants up he stays there until the deputies get there, they laugh, i get a high five, he went to jail. Man i felt great, all my training kicked in without me even thinking about it! I love it.

    TRIVIA QUESTION:
    can anyone tell me what the only word in the english language to have 3 sets of double letters back to back?
    (by 'double letter' i mean like "jeep" has double e's)

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  • cjmajor1807
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    Originally posted by CH47Doc View Post
    Maybe this will sink it in a little deeper.


    Sheriff's Explorer Gerald Rabon

    Lee County Sheriff's Department,
    August 31, 2007
    Age: 20


    Apparently, Gerald held a job as a gas station attendant in addition to his explorer duties. On Saturday, August 25, 2007, at 2144 hours, two suspects walked into the Pik-N'-Run convenience store that adjoining the gas station and attempted a robbery. It is said Gerald intervened at some point and was shot an unknown number of times. Gerald was rushed to the hospital where he received 3 hours of emergency surgery and was given 50/50 chances. It appeared he was recovering enough to give the thumbs up sign at one point, but succumbed to his injuries on the morning on August 31.Arrested in connection with the shooting Chad Moreland, 24, and Iris Moreland, 27.




    Police Explorer Evan

    Miami-Dade Police Department
    December, 2005
    Age: 17


    Evan was killed during an attempted robbery. Evan in the passenger seat of a car when the suspect robbed the driver of his jewely at gunpoint. The gunman then went around to Evan's side, opened the door, and attempted to rob grab Evan's jewelry. Evan resisted and was shot at point-blank range.
    It might have sounded like I was saying it was a good idea, however, I agree it was a bad idea. These instances should best be handled by police, and you should be a good witness (I agree). The police are there to apprehend suspects, not the people getting paid $7.00 an hour at the store. Personally I would have let them go, called the police and then given a full and detailed report of what happened when the police got there, but that is me.

    This explorer will learn real quick when he is wrestling around with someone who really WANTS TO KILL him when he becomes an officer. I have been in one fight since I started working security, and during that fight I was SCARED, I guess this explorer will have to learn that fear the hard way. I learned a lot from that fight, and I would rather let someone run then to get into a fight that I might not win.

    I guess if I was asked a question about fighting in an interview, I would say "If I have to, I can fight, but I would rather talk a suspect into handcuffs then force them into them."

    I used to be like this explorer, thinking police work was all about running and fighting with badguys. It HURTS to get punched in the face, and it HURTS to fight on pavement...nothing fun about it. He will learn though guys, so lets just stop kicking the dead horse!

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  • CH47Doc
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    Maybe this will sink it in a little deeper.


    Sheriff's Explorer Gerald Rabon

    Lee County Sheriff's Department,
    August 31, 2007
    Age: 20


    Apparently, Gerald held a job as a gas station attendant in addition to his explorer duties. On Saturday, August 25, 2007, at 2144 hours, two suspects walked into the Pik-N'-Run convenience store that adjoining the gas station and attempted a robbery. It is said Gerald intervened at some point and was shot an unknown number of times. Gerald was rushed to the hospital where he received 3 hours of emergency surgery and was given 50/50 chances. It appeared he was recovering enough to give the thumbs up sign at one point, but succumbed to his injuries on the morning on August 31.Arrested in connection with the shooting Chad Moreland, 24, and Iris Moreland, 27.




    Police Explorer Evan

    Miami-Dade Police Department
    December, 2005
    Age: 17


    Evan was killed during an attempted robbery. Evan in the passenger seat of a car when the suspect robbed the driver of his jewely at gunpoint. The gunman then went around to Evan's side, opened the door, and attempted to rob grab Evan's jewelry. Evan resisted and was shot at point-blank range.

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  • cjmajor1807
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    Originally posted by CH47Doc View Post
    You just have to remember that youre 'wanna-be's', cuz you 'aint'. Theres nothing wrong with wanting to be a LEO but all the whizbang explorer training is nothing without a solid education and life experience. Explorers have their place and its not going 'hands on' with everybody that disrespects your, *cough, authority. Its ok to gain experience and to be exposed to the LE life but if you think youre 16 yr old self is going to win a hands on fight with a 300lb dude looking at his 3rd strike, youre mistaken. Youre 'EXPLORERS', not 'PARTICIPATORS' so go out and explore.

    Youre time would be better served learning how to avoid common errors in report writing and testifying in court. Also handy to know is when to keep your mouth shut. More cops have been hammered because they said something stupid than have been due to use of force issues.
    I agree that explorers time is better spent learning how to NOT go 'hands on' because when they do become officers this will save them time from being 'laid up'.

    As I said, the OP has said that it wasn't the brightest!

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  • FiremanMike
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    Originally posted by cjmajor1807 View Post
    Your right it is, but common guys he has already said that what he did may not have been the smartest decision, but he did what he did and that's all there is too it, nothing more. We should stop beating the dead horse about "well things could have gone wrong." We all know they could have gone wrong, and I am sure he used this as a learning experience, so lets just say "nice collar" just next time, be a witness...that should be what everyone says.

    Don't start bashing explorers because we are "wanna-be's." Some of us try really hard to be good at everything we do, and sometimes our training (yes we do train, I went through a 8 week academy where we did DAAT everyday for 3 hours) kicks in when we are not at explorers. Isn't that what we want to happen? When stress sets in, we want to be able to rely on our muscle memory and our training to protect us, I believe that is the stated objective of doing so much training on hands on confrontation in law enforcement and in shooting, is it not? Just saying. (If you have noticed, I like being a devils advocate).
    It was not a nice collar and we're not going to praise him for it. He came on this board to brag about it, he's getting what he deserves, otherwise we are condoning his actions and encouraging future similar acts.

    In addition, he wasn't utilizing "DAAT" training that "kicked in", he INITIATED this, imho, he's flirting with an assault charge.

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  • CH47Doc
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    You just have to remember that youre 'wanna-be's', cuz you 'aint'. Theres nothing wrong with wanting to be a LEO but all the whizbang explorer training is nothing without a solid education and life experience. Explorers have their place and its not going 'hands on' with everybody that disrespects your, *cough, authority. Its ok to gain experience and to be exposed to the LE life but if you think youre 16 yr old self is going to win a hands on fight with a 300lb dude looking at his 3rd strike, youre mistaken. Youre 'EXPLORERS', not 'PARTICIPATORS' so go out and explore.

    Youre time would be better served learning how to avoid common errors in report writing and testifying in court. Also handy to know is when to keep your mouth shut. More cops have been hammered because they said something stupid than have been due to use of force issues.

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  • cjmajor1807
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    Originally posted by MaineSqueeze View Post
    This is why explorers get a bad name, because it usually doesnt turn out good.
    Your right it is, but common guys he has already said that what he did may not have been the smartest decision, but he did what he did and that's all there is too it, nothing more. We should stop beating the dead horse about "well things could have gone wrong." We all know they could have gone wrong, and I am sure he used this as a learning experience, so lets just say "nice collar" just next time, be a witness...that should be what everyone says.

    Don't start bashing explorers because we are "wanna-be's." Some of us try really hard to be good at everything we do, and sometimes our training (yes we do train, I went through a 8 week academy where we did DAAT everyday for 3 hours) kicks in when we are not at explorers. Isn't that what we want to happen? When stress sets in, we want to be able to rely on our muscle memory and our training to protect us, I believe that is the stated objective of doing so much training on hands on confrontation in law enforcement and in shooting, is it not? Just saying. (If you have noticed, I like being a devils advocate).

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  • CH47Doc
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    Originally posted by MovingViolation View Post
    With all due respect, you, as officers, should know better than anyone else that just because there are some bad apples doesn't mean we are all bad and that Explorer posts are just a waste of time.

    Unfortunately, a lot of the "bad apples" seem to be posting on this forum. Like how the media only reports the bad officers' deeds and not the daily heroic tasks officers perform.

    Just my $0.02
    Well the next time I see an officer create a post telling us of his/her every move while apprehending a theft suspect, and bragging about it, ill be the first to pile on.


    Officer X: Yeah and then he pulled over and i said, "Show me your hands ***hole!" And when he didnt i jumped on the hood and kicked out the windshield, pulled him through it, and then i remembered, "Wait, i didnt say please". Thats when my training kicked in and remembered i had stopped this guy for a broken tail light. So i read him his rights, just before i tazed him." It was so COOL!

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  • H.P.D.700X
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    A. YOU ARE NOT A POLICE OFFICER SO DONT ACT AS ONE!!!! ive said my peace
    Last edited by H.P.D.700X; 05-13-2009, 09:49 PM.

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  • Red Swan
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    I would of prob did the same thing in ur sitation growing up...

    but now with some Policing experience under my belt that guy could of just as well wiped out a knife and shanked ur ***.. or like some others said sued u or the store..

    sad its like that but the criminals prevail civilly sometimes.

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  • rgw1977
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    Originally posted by Till View Post
    Did you print him out copies of this thread and others?
    Hell no, I'd get written up for waisting resources!

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