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      Generally speaking, the PSS job is sort of a "security guard" position. It may be monitoring cameras or escorting visitors or contractors around the building. The IA position is generally mostly clerical work. It usually involves documenting/tracking evidence & asset forfeitures. Notice I prefaced both descriptions with "GENERALLY". I'm sure it varies from agency to agency. The job announcement should tell you more.

      There are pros and cons to these jobs. You're in the "system" and building time towards a federal retirement, and you're building a reputation within the agency you're hoping to work as an SA for. On the negative side, you're not performing a LE function, and that's experience you'll probably never get as a "fed". Local LE comes in contact with SO many different situations on any given day, that you'd get more LE experience (interviewing people, making arrests, etc.) in one year with a larger local department than you'd probably get in a career in federal LE (I know - I've done both).
      Last edited by federale083; 06-20-2008, 01:58 AM. Reason: Added some info
      "...the complacency of fools will destroy them." Proverbs 1:32

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          The PSS is actually the person who handles administrative issues around security clearances. It has nothing to do with physical security.
          "This country cannot afford to be materially rich and spiritually poor." JFK

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              I'm a CJ major and I receive my bachelor's in december and I'm planning on obtaining my masters in cj with a concentration in investigative techniques. I have three years experience doing Security/Loss prevention. Do you know of any Federal Law Enforcement positions I would be eligible for or should I try something local/state for a few years then try to go federal? I'd eventually love to be a Federal Parole Officer....... I'm also 22 yrs old and a female. Just thought I'd put that in there...... thanx for all of the advice in advance!

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                future nyc leo,

                i also just received my bachelors degree and am pursuing federal law enforcement. there are a lot of good opportunities that you may be eligible for, and should definitely read about to see what you might be most interested in doing. i'm currently processing for customs and border protection officer. i've inquired about a number of other federal law enforcement positions as well including immigration enforcement agent for ice, border patrol agent for cbp, federal air marshal, secret service uniform division, bureau of diplomatic security special agent, fbi special agent, correction officer for bop. in some areas throughout the country you may be a contender for a position as a federal probation officer right now based on your education and perhaps the extent of your experience in loss prevention. i've found that a lot of federal probation officer positions are now requiring three years of experience that is comparable to their work though, so depending on your interests and experience, you may want to inquire about some of the other entry-level positions first. it never hurts to apply though. i've lived on usajobs.com for the last year or so. depending on your education you'll find yourself to be mainly eligible for positions between the gs-5 and gs-7 levels. nypd just boosted their rookie salary to over 35k too, which could also be a great opportunity. read all the agency websites and job descriptions, and then live and breath usajobs.com.

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                  Originally posted by future nyc LEO View Post
                  I'm a CJ major and I receive my bachelor's in december and I'm planning on obtaining my masters in cj with a concentration in investigative techniques. I have three years experience doing Security/Loss prevention. Do you know of any Federal Law Enforcement positions I would be eligible for or should I try something local/state for a few years then try to go federal? I'd eventually love to be a Federal Parole Officer....... I'm also 22 yrs old and a female. Just thought I'd put that in there...... thanx for all of the advice in advance!
                  There are hundreds of FLEO jobs for someone like you. A good percentage of the Fed jobs don't require a 4 year college, however, it's good to have it just in case. You also have an advantage of being a female. If I was you, I would go straight Federal, without waisting time. Many 1811 positions are announced on usajobs.com on daily-weekly basis. Good luck !!!
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                    oh really? i'm really open to the feds. i'm taking an exam monday for the postal office and hopefully if i were to get that then i would work on my masters and then apply for FLEO or would that be a waste of time? i've also had over 20 jobs due do my drastic school schedule, transportation issues and family issues. i tried marijuana ONCE and only ONCE last june and i took two puffs. i just wanted to see what the big deal was about it.... there def isn't anything i liked about that. do a lot of fleo polygraph or just the main ones like fbi, dea and etc? i graduate in december and hopefully i can start graduate school in january. again thanx for the advice in advance!

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                      When I took a poly for FBI, they straight up told me if I had used drugs in the last 3 years at all to just turn around and walk out of the room. Just my experience, not sure if its like that for all FLE.
                      "Now, we must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men." -Monsignor

                      Better to be judged by twelve than carried by six.

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                        yea I've heard about the FBI and their strict standards. I definitely regret it but I did it and it was last june. I think I'm just going to end up going to grad school and work after I graduate and after I get some local LEO experience I'll go federal. question..... with the 20yr federal pension for LEO what is the pension like? here in NY you work 20yrs and receive 1/2 pay. is it the same for the feds as well?

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                          Anyone know of any good Federal positions currently open or expected to be opening soon? I really want to apply for the DEA 1811 but was told that I should not apply until I am graduated in December. I would like to apply now so I can start the process and be somewhat close to the end when I graduate. Anyway, anybody have any good positions to share?

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                            Originally posted by OTVFD18 View Post
                            Anyone know of any good Federal positions currently open or expected to be opening soon? I really want to apply for the DEA 1811 but was told that I should not apply until I am graduated in December. I would like to apply now so I can start the process and be somewhat close to the end when I graduate. Anyway, anybody have any good positions to share?
                            DEA just started doing a hiring stint, but I'm not sure if they are accepting applications anymore. I just know that they were collecting resumes for awhile, and then everyone got the email with the initial paperwork packet to turn in; maybe someone else knows.
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                              Originally posted by future nyc LEO View Post
                              . . . i tried marijuana ONCE and only ONCE last june and i took two puffs.
                              Generally for the feds, you must not have experimented with marijuana in the 5 years prior to applying, and must never have had more than one time use of "hard" drugs, and not within ten years of applying. Doesn't matter if it was one tiny puff, or smoking a huge bong and then drinking the bong water when you're done smoking. Any use is a use.

                              However, check with the various agencies for their specific criteria. In general you find most agencies local, state, and fed, will want you to have at least 3 to 5 years between your experimentation with any illegal drugs.

                              Also, it's my firm belief that if you're in your early to mid 20s you're generally better off working a few years with local PD or SO before applying for GS-1811 Criminal Investigator (aka Special Agent) jobs with the feds. That experience as a street cop with the locals will benefit you greatly once you get on with the feds. Now, that being said there are advantages to applying as soon as you're eligible, namely that you start building credit toward retirement early.

                              Good luck in whatever path you choose.
                              Last edited by SA13; 08-28-2008, 11:55 PM.

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