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    is anyone familiar with military inspector general or IG specialists? i know that oig offices for most federal agencies have special agents that investigate fraud/abuse, have arrest authority, firearm proficiency requirements, and a hiring age limit of 37. i also know that the military has their own LE agencies (afosi, ncis, army cid, etc.).

    but can anyone provide me insight on the IG for the military? i have seen several openings for 1801s or 1810s as IG or IG specialists and i'm curious.

    i'm certain they investigate fraud/abuse, but do they have arrest authority, firearms, age limits, physical requirements, etc?

    the job descriptions seem fairly general and e-mail attempts to reach the POC have not been fruitful.

    thank you!

  • #2
    Originally posted by blitzboy View Post
    is anyone familiar with military inspector general or IG specialists? i know that oig offices for most federal agencies have special agents that investigate fraud/abuse, have arrest authority, firearm proficiency requirements, and a hiring age limit of 37. i also know that the military has their own LE agencies (afosi, ncis, army cid, etc.).

    but can anyone provide me insight on the IG for the military? i have seen several openings for 1801s or 1810s as IG or IG specialists and i'm curious.

    i'm certain they investigate fraud/abuse, but do they have arrest authority, firearms, age limits, physical requirements, etc?

    the job descriptions seem fairly general and e-mail attempts to reach the POC have not been fruitful.

    thank you!
    Typically the MCIOs (OSI, NCIS, CID, CGIS, and DCIS) are the "LE" arms of the military IGs. For example OSI reports directly to and works for the USAF/IG. I would be very surprised if any of the 1801 or 1810 positions with the military IGs are "LE jobs" with LE authorities. However, the job announcement for the jobs you are applying should clearly state if the job qualifies for the special LE/firefighter/ATC retirment (and therefore has an age limit), and will likely say whether there are requirements related to firearms, physical fitness, etc.

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    • #3
      Err....IGs in the Military are completely different than IGs for the rest of the USG.....

      Non-LEO....No weapons....No 6c.....No arrest authority.....No age limits.....

      You go to a three week school at Ft. Belvoir, VA. The class is mixed with Civilians and Military folks that will be out in the field doing IG stuff.

      In a nutshell, the mission of of the IG is to inquire into, and periodically report on the discipline, efficiency, economy, morale, training, and readiness throughout the Army, to the Secretary of the Army and the Chief of Staff, Army.

      You go out and inspect units to make sure they are up to Army Regs, you look into alligations of problems within units, and you report back to higher HQ.......

      My section works with IG folks all the time because we are the ones that usually will inspect Arms Rooms, Motor Pools, Communication Storage areas, etc......

      I think its one of the better jobs working for the Army....but it is what it is.... If you run around flashing your IG Creds like you are a LEO....you won't be in the job long. As that's not what the job entails....

      Here's more info...

      http://wwwpublic.ignet.army.mil/

      http://tigs-online.ignet.army.mil/ti...ne/aboutus.htm

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      • #4
        IGs usually get into trouble when they start thinking they are commanders. They're not' Additionally, you have a LOT of people(Both military and civ) working in IG offices who have ZERO experience in the field. I threw our division IG out of my office when I was in battalion cmd. I had reserve soldiers mobilized for 6 months that had yet to be paid(and in one case couldnt pay his mortgage) and this idiot IG was in my office because one of my stellar performing soldiers complained that I used a vulgar word. I asked the Div IG where he was with these major pay issues and he didnt have a clue. My brigade commander tossed the same officer out of his office as well. The guy retired soon after. Needless to say, the IG works and reports directly to a commander, in this case, a two-star.

        IGs can be a great asset to a commander or a ball and chain.

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        • #5
          The IG functions in the manner previously described. (Armed Forces) He has no law enforcement authority .

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          • #6
            Originally posted by cueball06 View Post
            I threw our division IG out of my office when I was in battalion cmd.
            If you did that here.....the Div CG would have broke it off in your ***...

            Originally posted by cueball06 View Post
            I asked the Div IG where he was with these major pay issues and he didnt have a clue.
            Last time I checked, that's not the IG's function....that would be a Chain of Command function....no wonder he didn't have a clue.....

            Originally posted by cueball06 View Post
            My brigade commander tossed the same officer out of his office as well.
            Once again....you did that out here and it would get broke off in your *** by the Div CG..... Especially since ours is a LTC wtih 2-3 GS12s working for him that have been out here since the beginging of time.....

            Originally posted by cueball06 View Post
            Needless to say, the IG works and reports directly to a commander, in this case, a two-star.
            Depends on the Command....he could work for a COL (06) all the way up to a 4 Star.......

            But you are correct that he does work for the Commander.....

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            • #7
              sorry for the late reply, but i want to thank everyone who answered. this gave me a better perspective of the military IGs.

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              • #8
                The IG functions in the manner previously described. (Armed Forces) He has no law enforcement authority .
                really?

                I work for a Guy, who works for a guy, who works for the IG.

                I'm doing Law Enforcement.

                Am I misinformed?

                M-11
                “All men dream...... But not equally..
                Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find it is vanity;
                but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men,
                for they act their dreams with open eyes to make it possible.....”

                TE Lawrence

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by M-11 View Post
                  really?

                  I work for a Guy, who works for a guy, who works for the IG.

                  I'm doing Law Enforcement.

                  Am I misinformed?

                  M-11
                  Err.....huh...?

                  Army side of the house, IG has no LE functions. They work for the commader of the base or command.....

                  It is a good job....but it is what it is on the Army side of the house...

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                  • #10
                    AFOSI CC (1 Star) reports directly to the USAF IG (3 Star)

                    In the AF, the IG has contril of both us (OSI) and the Administrative "IG" teams taht do non-criminal inspections (Air Force Audit and others like them also work for the USAF/IG)

                    M-11
                    “All men dream...... But not equally..
                    Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find it is vanity;
                    but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men,
                    for they act their dreams with open eyes to make it possible.....”

                    TE Lawrence

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by M-11 View Post
                      AFOSI CC (1 Star) reports directly to the USAF IG (3 Star)

                      In the AF, the IG has contril of both us (OSI) and the Administrative "IG" teams taht do non-criminal inspections (Air Force Audit and others like them also work for the USAF/IG)

                      M-11
                      It's not like that in for the Army....not at all.....

                      Each Command has it's own IG staff....and they fall under the Commander as a separte entity.....as in no one is above them....other than the Commander.....

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                      • #12
                        this is interesting. thanks for the different perspectives. anyone know about the navy IG?

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