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  • How long was it for you guys between getting your poly done and QC giving it the official nod? And then how long from poly to final offer?

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    • Talonderiel
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      Ohio1994, It's been 3 business days since my 2nd poly w/ verbal pass.... Just got a green check in one app. The other might update tomorrow. lol

    • Ohio1994
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      Did you get a verbal pass on your first and get recalled for a second?

    • Talonderiel
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      Ohio1994, sorry for the delay, I was out playing military for the weekend. Also if you use the @ + username, the person you @'ed will get a notification that there is a message directed at them...... These posts get buried quickly by new posts. :P

      To answer you question, my first polygraph was marked inconclusive by QC. I had received a verbal pass by the polygrapher and received a phone call two days later with a very frustrated sounded polygrapher. So this second go around, same guy and everything done the exact same. QC passed it.

  • I first applied for BPA on 2/26. I interviewed a week ago with my BI and he just interviewed my nextdoor neighbor today. Anyone have an idea as to how much longer I have from here to clear my background? All I have left is that and my drug test.

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    • Ohio1994
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      How long have you been stuck at this point?

    • Talonderiel
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      Rdeljr983, sadly it really depends... I spent this weekend in a class for the Navy Reserve with a DHS Intelligence Specialist. He said the background investigations for the DHS are based on their contracts and manning levels..... They are also in a process of switching from OPR/OPM to DISA. So who knows?!

      I'm in the same boat you are now.... Just background and drug test left. I DID sign a provisional clear, so maybe they'll utilize that and hire me prior to the clearing. I mean, I have an active (and recently adjudicated) Secret for the Navy.....

      Best of luck to you, brotherman!

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      Last edited by Hopejoy; 06-22-2019, 09:08 AM.

    • Talonderiel
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      Hopejoy, I don't know if anything ever really gets faster with the Government. :P But on paper, it should. The combined DoD/DISA agency would be the sole agency to conduct backgrounds investigations. I think where this will really benefit the various agencies and DoD is that reciprocity will become a real and valid thing.

      I spent this last weekend at a Navy Ethics/Leadership course with a DHS Sector Intelligence kat. He says in this 10+ years doing that and the military, he has never seen a DHS to DoD (and vice-versa) reciprocity accepted in his, or his subordinates, clearances. He said he has seen the same issue between departments in the DHS too.

      We shall see how the future pans out!

      Source: https://federalnewsnetwork.com/reorg...-organization/

  • I just got to this point recently. My investigator told me today that he needs to turn in his work on me next week. So I’m hoping I’ll hear something back within the next couple of weeks. I’m super anxious and just dying to get an EOD date already.

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    • Ohio1994
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      Good luck! Keep us posted!

  • Does anyone know if you can take a vehicle to fletc?

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  • Originally posted by Klumper23 View Post
    Does anyone know if you can take a vehicle to fletc?
    You won't be able to, you'll have to travel to get it. When you EOD with BP, you EOD at the sector headquarters. The agency will then fly you (and any other new hires at your sector) to El paso and then bus you in to the academy. You would have to go get your vehicle on weekend or something. I personally bought a car while at FLETC.
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    • Lovetocamp
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      Lmao I got ripped to shreds by the PT instructors when they saw my new truck with a Roswell Toyota dealership sticker. Saying what if I got hurt or didn't make it. Didn't help that I replied "well this academy isn't that hard, so I knew I'd pass."

    • battlewagon
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      jajaja that response though. I will say though to anyone, it is so worth it to have a vehicle. Whether you buy a 4,000 beater there and then try to sell it to someone before you leave, or take it your new station, it is a game changer, since there is absolutely nothing to do in Artesia, and Roswell isnt much better. Also might as well do it if you are going to one of those stations where people live an hour away from their station; grab a cheap used Honda Civic or Corolla so you will have your commuter car for work. Only thing that sucks is you have to drive it home after graduation, whereas the Agency would pay to fly you there otherwise.

  • So I was surfing the web trying to look up any useful information to prepare for the academy and I came across this guide. I don’t know how updated it is but it seemed to be pretty thorough and resonates with what I’ve heard to expect at the academy.

    Link: https://www.fletc.gov/artesia-student-handbook

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    • Lovetocamp
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      I'll walk you through Day 0.

      The instructors will come on the bus and yell at you, you'll do pointless marching around pseudo-Marine Corps style. Try not to laugh if you're prior military like I was. Then you'll run around everywhere to the first building to get issued your keys and buncha useless academy books like that student handbook you got. Then you'll be dropped off way far away from your barracks and be forced to carry your bags to them. Even if your bags got wheels you'll still carry your crap.

      We went up 4 flights of stairs and ran around our room buildings. Some people puked and ****, I was breathing pretty hard but not too bad. Some instructors will be yelling at you through your room window. You empty out one bag, completely empty. If there's even as much as a pencil in there you'll be forced to go back til its empty. We had 1 dude go back 4 times.

      Then once everyone has their crap, they pass out more crap, and you go to bed for the night.

      The instructors slowly stop yelling at you after week 1. PT instructors will still yell at you pretty much throughout the whole academy. They kinda ease up about halfway through.

  • Maybe a dumb question but where are you guys finding the percentage for how completed your process is ?

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  • Update

    ​Applied 5/8/19 (19-8)
    EQIP sent in 5/15/19 - Eqip sent again 5/16/19 - Eqip for the final time 5/20/19 - Eqip sent to OPR 5/22/19
    Medical Exam scheduled for 5/23/19 (waiting results)
    SI scheduled for 6/3/19 (passed)
    Fitness Exam scheduled 5/9/19 (passed)
    Drug test (in progress)
    Poly (pending)
    BI (in progress)
    Fitness Exam 2 (Not applicable)
    Final Offer (Pending)​​​​​​

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    • Is it common for them to send you for a drug test before the BI is done? They haven’t even started calling my references and I’m scheduled for a drug test tomorrow, they just called today about it.

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      • Ohio1994
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        Talonderiel no I didn’t sign it, I’ve never had a clearance so I didn’t want to leave my job then get bounced. That’s why I’m confused about it

      • battlewagon
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        Provisional clearances aren't limited to those who previously held them. Remember, most BP hires are not prior federal LEO or military

      • Ohio1994
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        battlewagon no I completely understand that, what I was afraid of was quitting my current job leaving getting to the academy and then not getting cleared for whatever reason and being sent home. I have the worst luck and always expect the worst to happen, so I didn’t want to get screwed.

      • Talonderiel
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        Ohio1994, my guess would be the relative inexpensiveness of the test is why they have ya' knocking it out. Less expensive then having a full clearance check done to then lose you to a cheaper drug test. Just my thoughts.

    • I have a question about the academy. I know that if you don’t know how to speak Spanish they teach that to you but what if like me you’re fluent in reading, writing, and speaking it? Is it still mandatory to take the classes?

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      • Talonderiel
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        Srhernza115, my buddies that have gone through it have told me there was a test-out option during the academy..... But they were 10 and 5 years ago, so it may have changed. Hopefully someone fresh from the grind will tell us!

    • Completed my drug test today. Any ideas as to how long it takes that to go through? And I know there is no telling how long but anyone recently got through the background investigation and can give some insight into how long to expect that to take to get completed?

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      • Klumper23
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        I got the call the following week after my drug test.

    • Originally posted by Srhernza115 View Post
      I have a question about the academy. I know that if you don’t know how to speak Spanish they teach that to you but what if like me you’re fluent in reading, writing, and speaking it? Is it still mandatory to take the classes?
      Everyone does it now. The Spanish used to be a separate part of the academy where all you did was spanish 8 hours a day. You could test out of it. Ironically, many native speakers would fail that test especially those from say South Texas who have been speaking that particular dialect of Spanish, whereas all the white Mormons passed the test (there's a large Mormon population in the Patrol, and many of them learned Spanish for their missionary work, and learned it very well). This was because the Spanish test, done over a phone verbally, was proper book Spanish. Not "que onda guey no mames".

      So yeah it's back to how it used to be a long time ago, the spanish is fully integrated into the daily training so everyone goes through it.
      UNITED STATES BORDER PATROL
      "90 years of tradition unhindered by progress!"


      honor first

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      • RLB4104
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        Another irony was that the tactical training during the old dedicated Spanish course was better, so the nativos who went straight to the stations after 12 weeks were behind the curve on things like vehicle stops, processing, checkpoint stuff, and even arrest techniques.

    • I see there’s a few others who are at about the same stage in the process as I am (awaiting background clearance and/or drug test). I saw someone here in this thread got an EOD date for FLETC for 8/15. Assuming myself and these others who are still waiting on a word do get through, does anyone know if we’d most likely EOD for that same date of 8/15? I couldn’t imagine them running two separate academies around the same time. Am I wrong in thinking that?

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      • Just got a call from Minneapolis, unfortunately couldn’t answer because of work. But that is the first cal
        i got from there. Is that a hiring call or a were starting your background investigation call?

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        • Originally posted by Rdeljr983 View Post
          I see there’s a few others who are at about the same stage in the process as I am (awaiting background clearance and/or drug test). I saw someone here in this thread got an EOD date for FLETC for 8/15. Assuming myself and these others who are still waiting on a word do get through, does anyone know if we’d most likely EOD for that same date of 8/15? I couldn’t imagine them running two separate academies around the same time. Am I wrong in thinking that?
          They not only run academies at the same time, they usually EOD a class every other week, around the clock. There have been times when a new class would EOD every week. So there can be in theory 10+ classes going at once. Someone at the academy now would have to give an exact number that they're running
          UNITED STATES BORDER PATROL
          "90 years of tradition unhindered by progress!"


          honor first

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          • Exbpa340
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            My son is currently at the academy. He told me last night that there are 2 classes behind his and 8 or 9 in front of his.

          • battlewagon
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            Hell yeah full steam ahead. Unfortunately I've heard a lot of classes aren't at full numbers, with some EODing and having less than half the class full, low 20s. Better than nothing though!

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