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  • Originally posted by FTO Sammich View Post
    So I’m waiting for my BI to clear for CBP Officer and was thinking about applying for border patrol. I was looking at Brownsville tx as a possible selection and noticed that a lot of the homes are very nice and large but not ridiculously expensive. This doesn’t look right to me. What’s the catch??
    South Texas, specifically the Rio Grande Valley, is constantly number one for the lowest cost of living for any metropolitan statistical area in the country. More specifically, the McAllen MSA and Brownsville MSA are almost both in the the top 3 or 5.

    South TX is probably the best area to get hired to for new hires. Relatively normal towns for border towns, low cost of living, busiest sector in the country for work,, etc. Though Brownsville doesnt take as many new hires as say McAllen, Rio Grande City, Falfurrias, and others. So if your heart is set on Brownsville, you may be disappointed.
    UNITED STATES BORDER PATROL
    "90 years of tradition unhindered by progress!"


    honor first

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    • FTO Sammich
      FTO Sammich commented
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      Thanks. Just trying to get as much info as possible. I’m not set on anything, I just don’t want to get stuck in a crappy place. South Texas doesn’t look as bad as I imagined it I guess.

    • battlewagon
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      If you choose South Texas on your application, it unfortunately includes Laredo sector stations like the Laredo checkpoints, Hebronville checkpoint, etc. But anything from RGC to Brownsville/Fort Brown in the Valley are good to go.

  • Which station is the best out of all of these?

    Falfurriaf

    Cotulla

    Zapata

    Hebbronville

    Loreado nsw




    Carrizo springs

    Eagle pass ns

    Alpine

    Marfa

    Presidio

    Sanderson







    Lordsburg

    Demming nm

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    • battlewagon
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      Is this what they offered you? Chinnggggg no wonder senior agents leave the patrol. Cotulla is the best station, at least for location. Sort of boring, but close to San Antonio. I know agents with 10 years in that would give up a child to go there, just like when they hire trainees to Corpus Christi.

      Good luck, congrats if you got an offer!

    • BPRIO
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      Wow, they offered all these with Cotulla included?

  • Has the Poly gotten any better in the hiring process ?

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    • FNG41YR
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      Nope. It is still bs

    • Stay Frosty
      Stay Frosty commented
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      Is it still a big fail rate ?

  • If I’m in nyc do I start the process here or elsewhere? How long is the process typically? From submitting to the next step

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    • I’m new here, and seriously considering applying to either this or the immediate next opportunity.

      But first, had some questions on my mind I was hoping to get some responses to...
      - How dangerous is the job on the SB? Or, how often do your fellow agents get injured in confrontations? How often do confrontations occur where they retaliate (armed or unarmed)?
      - If it’s as dangerous as it seems to be from what I have found, why are BPAs out alone for so often?
      - Are most BPAs physically large? As a naturally slimmer guy, wondering if I’m in for a bad time.

      I appreciate all responses.

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      • OCN_1
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        I’m here at FLETC now with another agency. I can reassure you that there are all types of people here in the academy... I’ve seen 5’3 guys, girls who are even smaller, massive recruits, etc. There is no standard physical stature for their recruits. I was with BP up until a week before I arrived here, I’m only 5’8 150lbs. Some of the smallest recruits can kick the most ***

      • battlewagon
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        I had two male classmates 5 foot flat, 100lbs. Same for females. Supposedly the most assualted fed agency right now, but to answer your question depends on station. Some stations ride partnered up almost always, whereas my station, one of the top 3 in station for drugs and top 3 for aliens, ALWAYS rode solo. Never once had a partner. Not uncommon to be on foot with backup 20+ minutes away. Just the nature of business.

    • I've worked corrections before so I know what it's like working overtime and often unplanned overtime shifts, but can anyone comment on the work/family balance being a BP agent? Is there a minimum requirement for overtime per week that must be worked? ( Obviously if you're chasing a group of aliens through a desert at night, then there's that)

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      • Originally posted by BG12345 View Post
        I've worked corrections before so I know what it's like working overtime and often unplanned overtime shifts, but can anyone comment on the work/family balance being a BP agent? Is there a minimum requirement for overtime per week that must be worked? ( Obviously if you're chasing a group of aliens through a desert at night, then there's that)
        BPAs are overtime exempt. Most guys work 5 x 10 hour shifts. If you go over the ten hours, which is hard because supervisors are supposed to be limiting it, you get comp time which is the same as vacation time. Only time there is overtime is if it is scheduled in advance for an operation or surge or something like that.

        So it is pretty easy to be balanced with work since you know your hours in advance. When you're new you'll probably get crappy days off, like Wednesday/Thursday. May get your second or last choice for what shift you want. By the time I had three years in I was getting what I wanted, mainly because we had a big station so there was always someone who preferred to work the shift you didn't want so you could swap. After I got off my probation and was allowed to swap, I never worked a midnight shift again. Expect to work holidays, but then again when I was new I was getting holidays off because guys wanted the double pay. I always gave my holiday off up to someone with a family so they could enjoy it and so I could make bank.

        Point is it isn't hard to have a balanced life.
        UNITED STATES BORDER PATROL
        "90 years of tradition unhindered by progress!"


        honor first

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        • BG12345
          BG12345 commented
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          Thank you for that insight! So it seems like overtime isn't as rampant with BPA than it is CBP?

        • battlewagon
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          No. Passport stampers get double time for their OT, and on many southwest border ports and busy ones up north, OT is mandatory and sucks. An hour before you get off, "hey you have to work another 8" and just like that, youre working a 16. The money (which is quite a lot) they get isnt worth it though, trust me.

          In the sector I was in, OT was almost guaranteed to be available the last quarter of the year for 'surge' operations. You can opt to work a sixth and seventh day if you want. But even then, our OT is far from time and a half. For example, as a journeyman 12 step 1, our hourly rate is 34 an hour, and the OT rate is 40 an hour (2017 numbers). So the OT is hardly OT, it is simply more days on your paycheck.

      • Taking my written test tomorrow,any tips or suggestions?

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        • Originally posted by Dyno93 View Post
          Taking my written test tomorrow,any tips or suggestions?
          Did you study the study material they sent? Beyond that, just a standard test.
          UNITED STATES BORDER PATROL
          "90 years of tradition unhindered by progress!"


          honor first

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          • Dyno93
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            Been looking over it everyday so hopefully I have nothing to worry about!

          • battlewagon
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            The material in the study guide is spot on for the test. If you feel okay about the study material, youre good to go

        • http://m.govexec.com/management/2018...agents/146978/

          "But Congress did not authorize any new hires at Border Patrol, and instead provided $7 million for 351 customs officers at ports of entry."

          Isit safe to say that all these applicants going through the process won't even have a position allocated to them?

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          • battlewagon
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            New hires in terms of the 5000 more Trump wanted specifically. The agency is still 1900ish short of our congressionally mandated staffing level.

            It will be a long time before the BP doesn't have slots for new applicants.

        • What's the work life balance like? And promotion potential. I am currently in another federal law enforcement job but we get days off canceled as well as in the realm of 16-28 hours forced OT most times. I know there is a plethora of info here but I don't have as much time as I would like to delve into it. Thanks everyone.

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          • Originally posted by Rascon3Romeo View Post
            What's the work life balance like? And promotion potential. I am currently in another federal law enforcement job but we get days off canceled as well as in the realm of 16-28 hours forced OT most times. I know there is a plethora of info here but I don't have as much time as I would like to delve into it. Thanks everyone.
            Most people leave UD for the reasons you mentioned above. The people who leave BP usually do so for better locations. So each has its big 'negative'. But then again, many BP locations are normal places to live. I was in South Texas and lived in as normal of a city as a border town can be. Large, plenty of nightlife, everything needed, work for family members, etc.

            BP does not cancel days off, and your hours are set unless you catch a case at the end of shift, but even then supervisors are tasked with reducing comp time, so it doesnt happen that often. Shift work just like you have now. You can select your shift preference, and days off are usually based on seniority.

            BP is a great career to transition into an 1811 gig if that is your thing, but also a great place to spend 20 years riding dirtbikes, atvs, horses, helicopters, doing public affairs, prosecutions, task forces, etc.
            UNITED STATES BORDER PATROL
            "90 years of tradition unhindered by progress!"


            honor first

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            • (Newbie to USAJ and LE hiring here) Currently on USAJ, Direct Hire for BP is at 18-6; any estimates/personal ideas at this point as to when will be the last opening, in accordance with all the new hires the potus is looking for?

              Just out of curiosity, after that, will there always be openings like this for BP since attrition seems to typically be high, or has there historically been long periods of no hirings?

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              • Stay Frosty
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                What about the polygraph that has a high failure rate. Any updates on this ?
                Last edited by Stay Frosty; 03-29-2018, 02:33 PM.

              • 5005SinkSwim
                5005SinkSwim commented
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                Could you please clarify?

            • So I’ve been browsing the Delphi forums,and it seems like a lot of people’s processes are going quicker then before. Any reason for this? Geographic Location,etc..?

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            • Originally posted by 5005SinkSwim View Post
              (Newbie to USAJ and LE hiring here) Currently on USAJ, Direct Hire for BP is at 18-6; any estimates/personal ideas at this point as to when will be the last opening, in accordance with all the new hires the potus is looking for?

              Just out of curiosity, after that, will there always be openings like this for BP since attrition seems to typically be high, or has there historically been long periods of no hirings?
              It will be a while before BP isn't hiring. Even if things slowed down from pretty much continuous announcements back to back, I highly doubt there will ever be a time where BP doesn't have at least multiple announcements a year. When you have an agency with 20,000 agents, you are almost always going to be hiring due to simple attrition (as opposed to mass exodus), with people retiring, moving to other agencies, etc.

              As far as your post sub-comment:

              When I left my assignment working with DC HQ people last summer, the BP poly was going better, down from the 79.8% failure and declination rate that was plaguing hiring for a while. Was down under 50% during the pilot poly they were rolling out. Im not in that sphere anymore so I don't know the current situation and exact numbers right now, sorry

              "So I’ve been browsing the Delphi forums,and it seems like a lot of people’s processes are going quicker then before. Any reason for this? Geographic Location,etc..?"

              when I was on the above mentioned assignment, I had the chance to work with CBP executive assistant commissioner Jacksta who was tasked with fixing BP's hiring and retention issues. One thing her team successfully implemented was the massive reduction of hiring time for new border patrol agents it went down from something like 469 days on average to something close to 200, like 189. In the likely case those numbers are wrong, the point is hiring went from 1.5-2 years, to half a year. The big variance in hiring is almost always going to fall on background checks. If you were in the military or for whatever reason relocated a bunch and or had a bunch of different jobs, that will add some time to your background compared to someone who has lived in their Hometown their whole life and held two or three long term jobs.

              Proof is in the pudding. I've had family and many friends apply in the last few years after I recommended the job, and most went through fast. My brother was on track to be hired in about 7 months, but accepted another offer.

              My BP classmate who did BP Recruitment as his full time detail said the timeframe they are telling people now is 5-11 months to be hired.
              UNITED STATES BORDER PATROL
              "90 years of tradition unhindered by progress!"


              honor first

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              • battlewagon
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                No doubt. I was 2+ years. Quickest guy in my class was 1.5, and he was mil Intel with a TS. The majority of my class was 2+ years like me.

                Good thing the BP has fixed it. Lots of guys were taking other offers from other agencies that came first, and you can't blame them.

              • Dyno93
                Dyno93 commented
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                Do you think they will start implementing the pilot polygraph based on its findings?

              • Indians56
                Indians56 commented
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                Is this new "pilot program" significantly different than the previous one?

              • battlewagon
                battlewagon commented
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                Sorry boys out of the loop with that stuff now. All i know is initial results were poly failures dropped to 40something percent during the pilot, which is a lot closer to 'industry standard' than the old fail rate. So hopefully it will be put into effect.

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