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  • Do journeymen BPA's go to GS-12 now?

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    • Originally posted by marcvann23 View Post
      Do journeymen BPA's go to GS-12 now?
      The answer is yes. Here is the supporting info:

      Q&A’s for Journey 12 Level Upgrade for Frontline Positions
      (10/14/2009)



      The following Q&As are intended to provide employees with answers to questions they may have, regarding the upcoming rise of the journey level for the frontline positions from GS 11 to GS 12.


      Who is eligible to advance to the GS-12 level?
      Border Patrol Agents (BPAs), GS-1896, Customs and Border Protection Officers (CBPOs), GS-1895, and Customs and Border Protection Agriculture Specialists (CBPASs), GS-0401 at the GS-11 level who have one year time-in-grade as a GS-11 and have demonstrated their ability to perform successfully at the GS-12 level.


      Will I need to compete for the GS-12 Level?
      No, CBPOs, BPAs, and CBPASs who are eligible for promotion will be non-competitively promoted to GS-12 if they have one year time-in-grade as a GS-11 and have demonstrated their ability to perform successfully at the GS-12 level.


      How will GS-5, 7, and 9 level positions be affected?
      The position’s full performance level will rise from the GS-11 to the GS-12 and the following employees will be reassigned to revised position descriptions:

      0401 GS-5/7/9/11/12 Non-Supervisory CBP Agriculture Specialists
      1895 GS-5/7/9/11/12 Non-Supervisory CBP Officers
      1896 GS-5/7/9/11/12 Non-Supervisory Border Patrol Agents

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      • Originally posted by jesus981 View Post
        Hey has anyone heard about the PFT2??????? The recruitment office sent me a letter stating that after they call me with the EOD date i will have to take a test, this fitness test will consist of:

        (1) 220 yard run - must be completed in 46 seconds or less
        (2) Sit-ups – 25 proper form must be completed in one minute or less
        (3) Push ups – 20 proper form must be completed in one minute or less
        (4) 1.5 mile run - must be completed in 15 minutes

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        Last edited by MB2009; 10-28-2009, 11:43 PM. Reason: Found the info myself

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        • I received a letter requesting additional medial information. I got the info and sent it in last saturday, about how long before I know whether or not it was acceptable?

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          • Originally posted by marcvann23 View Post
            I received a letter requesting additional medial information. I got the info and sent it in last saturday, about how long before I know whether or not it was acceptable?
            Took me 2 months, I have heard others in a matter of weeks.
            Originally Posted by Law100
            Note to everyone: notice how respect I am

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            • Originally posted by marcvann23 View Post
              I received a letter requesting additional medial information. I got the info and sent it in last saturday, about how long before I know whether or not it was acceptable?
              The MHC's Medical Unit does not subscribe to responding to the information applicant's send to them, in regards to NMC or other letters, within any sort of set timeframe. They may answer promptly (or as promptly as one can expect from the government), or it may be months until some sort of reply is given by them. The best advice that can be given, is to regularly check via the phone system (612-467-7040) as this is updated with a bit more frequency than CASS is. The alternative is to roll the dice, and try contacting the Medical Unit via their telephone number. Until then...stay in the fight.
              sigpicTwo is one,
              one is none.

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              • I agree with the guys here who are saying to be very proactive in checking status. I remember when I briefly checked out the bully flame board (honor first forums) that there was a lot of misinformation from Agents. One of the bits of advice was to NOT call MHC or contact anyone regarding your file. It was sickening to see the trainee-in-training kids buy into that nonsense. That is a bunch of bull and horrible advice. Their reasoning was that MHC was "swamped". Boo freakin hoo! It's their job to answer legit AND stupid questions. They are customer service for the BP afterall and you should not be in the business of making Sally X not have to work. In my years of government service, the only people (including myself and others I've managed/supervised) who got anything done were ones who were extremely proactive. In a perfect world, things would get done promptly and efficiently. Government work is a monopoly and full of wastoids, carelessness and red tape. Get used to it!

                My advice is to care about number one, because if you don't, you will get passed over and they don't give a poop.

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                • Yes, I'm quite sure they only said it because they wanted to bully applicants... That's why they set up that site and forum and why dozens of agents, from the most junior trainee to PAIC's, Chiefs, and even a few SAC's and RAC's, post in there daily.

                  Oh wait, maybe it's because some of those senior agents who have regular contact with the senior staff over at MHC recieved calls and emails to please ask the members of the forum to stop calling MHC over trivial matters because it causes them to stop working on the files in front of them and look for yours.

                  After your brief moment of instant gratification, they have to get back to the other 20,000-30,000 other applicants for dozens of positions in CBP.

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                  • Originally posted by madchiken View Post
                    After your brief moment of instant gratification, they have to get back to the other 20,000-30,000 other applicants for dozens of positions in CBP.
                    Again, not the applicant's problem. There is no policy against checking on your own progress, so what's with the 'tude? I don't care (nor should anyone else) if there are 5 or 50,000 applicants in the queue. The MHC staff is there manning phones and responding to email for a reason... it's their job! Should they shut down a toll road in a major city any given day because there are too many drivers on the road and the booth attendant is complaining about traffic? I think not. BTW, I am always kind to people when dealing with business issues on the phone, email or in person. Very few times do I have to lay into someone to get the result I need. It's easier to attract more bees with honey.

                    My response is realistic in the functional government/corporate world. Is it not? I mentioned that HF site because I think many (not all) of the agents who post there have an over-inflated ego and often pass on poor and incorrect advice. Being a dick and justifying it by calling it "training" is well, being a dick! If anyone works/worked for the government in any capacity for longer than a day, you know what I speak of, unless the seas part for you every time you have a problem. Or, you are lucky enough to never have had a problem like:

                    Not getting paid correctly FOR A YEAR, put on the wrong pay scale, screwed up your orders, get your rank wrong, send you to the wrong sector, list you as married when you aren't, say you have 4 kids when you do not, won't give you your GI Bill money because they "can't find the paper you signed", not give you the right information, After you received a benefit, four weeks later you receive an email saying that you may not be eligible (from the same office, mind you), gave you late information and they now are saying "not my responsibility", told you were too old and didn't qualify (which you did), lied to your face saying that you were "set", when in fact you were not set, they failed to pay your voucher you promptly filed and after they sit on it for a over month until it gets past due they say "it's still your responsibility", told to go two different directions to the same place by two different people (both were wrong), told you they lost your paperwork...again! The list goes on and on and on...on...on...

                    Those are just a few of the actual issues I have dealt with in my work. They are ONLY a few and my descriptions are vague. There are many more, but I think you get the point. I've learned my lessons and I refuse to leave my life up to someone who doesn't have a personal vested interest in my future, be it great or small. As a footnote, all the problems I listed above were dealt with and resolved. If I said nothing, NOTHING would have changed. On the bright side, I have gotten far by simply asking questions, CONSTANTLY! Believe it or not, people sometimes make honest mistakes and misplace a file, lose an address, forget a number.

                    I remember on that HF board a guy proudly posted (looking for a pat on the back from the agents) that he had been waiting nearly 2 years and ONLY called MHC 3 times. THREEE TIMES!!!!!!! Take charge of your life! Don't be that guy!

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                    • Well I've worked for various government agencies for about 8 years now and have never had any of those problems. I've aso never called and asked stupid questions like when will my BI clear, what is taking so long, what does this letter mean, etc..

                      You ever stop and think that some people might screw with you because you are a pain in the butt? Not that any government employee would do something like that....

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                      • Originally posted by madchiken View Post
                        You ever stop and think that some people might screw with you because you are a pain in the butt? Not that any government employee would do something like that....
                        Lol! I've only been a pain when I had to be. You must be one lucky dude, because most of the people I've known including ones I've supervised and managed have dealt with nonsense. For the most part, things work properly (meaning very veeeerrrryyyy slowly). No process is perfect. My point is that asking questions is no a bad thing and it is wrong for anyone to justify why you shouldn't call by saying "sob...MHC is overworked...sob". Just my .02

                        I actually asked once when my BI was going to be handled (seemed a tad long of a wait) and was told that they somehow passed over my file by mistake. They fixed it immediately and voila! The BI happened! Most of the time people will be honest with you and either say "oops" or simply tell you they do not know.

                        I do agree that someone calling 10 times a week is a bit annoying and excessive.

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                        • Joejones, I agree with you 100 percent. You need to stay on top of these types of things so that they don't slip through the cracks. The fact that there are so many applicants is all the more reason to make sure you don't get over looked or have your paperwork misplaced (which happens all the time) I know of someone who had their TO mailed to the wrong address and the only reason they found out about it was because they called and checked. Had they sat idley by and waited they would still be sitting and waiting. As for the question about the medical I got cleared in two weeks and the medical people were very very friendly when I called and very eager to help.

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                          • Well, After being put on TSU, My fitness test expired, and on the day I was supposed to take it again, I was hospitalized for an instestinal condition called Crohn's Disease. I've been sent a letter regarding further medical information, but I am very concerned because this disease has no known cure, it can only be controlled.

                            Edit: After reviewing the CBP.Gov site, I think that about seals it for me, Crohn's is in the list of conditions that can disqualify you.
                            BPA:
                            Written Test: Passed (97%)
                            Reactivated Feb 09
                            Pre-Employment Forms: Completed
                            Qualifications: Qualified GL-7
                            Medical Exam: Completed
                            Drug Test: Completed
                            Fitness: Completed
                            Oral Board: Completedhttp://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6315/dancing.gif
                            Background Investigation: Completed


                            IEA ICE
                            Written Test: Passed (80% )
                            Oral Interview: Passed 07/14/09
                            Paperwork Sent In And No Idea When I'll Get An Answer

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                            • Originally posted by BPA2Be View Post
                              Well, After being put on TSU, My fitness test expired, and on the day I was supposed to take it again, I was hospitalized for an instestinal condition called Crohn's Disease. I've been sent a letter regarding further medical information, but I am very concerned because this disease has no known cure, it can only be controlled.

                              Edit: After reviewing the CBP.Gov site, I think that about seals it for me, Crohn's is in the list of conditions that can disqualify you.
                              That sucks man, long road for nothing for you. Hopefully you can get into something else even with that disease. Sorry.
                              Originally Posted by Law100
                              Note to everyone: notice how respect I am

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                              • Originally posted by madchiken View Post
                                Well I've worked for various government agencies for about 8 years now and have never had any of those problems.
                                I am willing to bet he is an ARMY man....All of the issues he listed are commonplace in the ARMY.

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