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    Im always hearing people on the board talking about these private sector jobs and how the generally pay better than most state or federal jobs. Could someone please post some links to applications or companies and just elaborate on the whole private sector thing. thanks

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    To get one those good paying private sector jobs, you need a very solid background in federal, state, or local law enforcement.
    I’ll die with blue in my veins.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by GoldBadge View Post
      To get one those good paying private sector jobs, you need a very solid background in federal, state, or local law enforcement.
      You are correct sir.

      I have looked at FedEx, UPS, DHL, BP, Shell, Exxon, McDonalds, etc.....and they were looking for folks that had tons of local, state, or federal LE experience.....

      Only reason I didn't take the several that I got offered..... was based on location..... As some companies will want to start you out at crappy locations for your first job......

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      • #4
        I understand that I need to have experience before applying to these jobs, but was just wanting to know what is out there if I want to leave law enforcement. What kind of salaries did these companies offer you? And do you have any links to these positions or what the titles of these positions are called? thanks

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ryh03001 View Post
          I understand that I need to have experience before applying to these jobs, but was just wanting to know what is out there if I want to leave law enforcement. What kind of salaries did these companies offer you?
          If you don't have much LE experience don't expect more than $40K. My special agent in charge recently retired and is making close to $300k in corporate security. When I retire, I figure to make somewhere between those 2 amounts, probably about $80K and up.

          Originally posted by ryh03001 View Post
          do you have any links to these positions
          The only links or announcements I get are circulated through our internal grapevines (us agents nearing retirement eligibility) and the jobs are intended for former criminal investigators with a minimum of 10-15 years experience.

          I would suggest you comb job boards for openings.
          I’ll die with blue in my veins.

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          • #6
            I would second the tons of experience comment. Most of the jobs I found wanted specialized experience with the formal training to back it up. The one I wanted badly was essentially physical security against terrorism type jobs. I found plenty of companies looking (it was right after 9-11- after all), but all of them wanted formal government training or extensive experience doing only physical protection in a terrorist environment. Since all I had was formal training a very little, but some, time on the job, I was essentially shut out. I even had the base anti-terrorism guru as a reference and was referred by him to a couple companies. They all said the same thing, we want more experience doing only the protection not as an ancillary position.
            But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new guards for their future security.

            For the intelectually challenged: If the government screws the people enough, it is the right and responsibility of the people to revolt and form a new government.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ryh03001 View Post
              I understand that I need to have experience before applying to these jobs, but was just wanting to know what is out there if I want to leave law enforcement. What kind of salaries did these companies offer you? And do you have any links to these positions or what the titles of these positions are called? thanks
              I went to all the companies websites that I was interested in....went to their job area....and registered to have them send me emails about openings that meet my criteria..... Most of them have stuff like that. If they don't, you just keep hitting the sites.....over and over....

              As for title....usually Security Specialist, Investigator, or something along those lines.....

              I interviewed and was offered a job with FedEx last year. But, at the time, I wasn't interested in going to NJ..... It started at 65K a year....and they would have given me a take-home ride...laptop....and some other stuff....

              As for money......usually 70K and above....which sits well if you are drawing retirement from your first job.

              In my case, I am not drawing any retirement.....but it is enough money to get my by.....and keep me happy....
              Last edited by Bearcat357; 02-19-2008, 02:19 PM. Reason: Spelling

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ryh03001 View Post
                I understand that I need to have experience before applying to these jobs, but was just wanting to know what is out there if I want to leave law enforcement. What kind of salaries did these companies offer you? And do you have any links to these positions or what the titles of these positions are called? thanks
                You will find a lot of them listed here:

                http://www.theiacp.org/jobs/jobsinde...n=show_results

                Sworn and civilian jobs are mixed together, so you will need to separate the two. Some of the job titles and descriptions for the civilian positions may initially sound bland or be a little cryptic, but you need to take a minute to read them and click on the employer links as a lot are very interesting. Ocasionally there will be a strange one. One current listing is for a VP of Investigations for a religious organization that says it is dedicated to combating slavery, sexual exploitation and violent opression. (I'm not sure exactly what that job entails.)

                Many say that salary is open to negotiation or commensurate with the local, while others will spell it out clearly. You also need to check the listings frequently as they change often.
                Going too far is half the pleasure of not getting anywhere

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                • #9
                  Private Sector Opportunities

                  ryh03001,

                  Begin searching for openings in critical infrastructure (banking/finance, energy, transportation, utilities, etc.). Security specialists will start at the $60,000- $80,000 range. The six figure range is usually reserved for managers/directors. I was recently offfered (and I accepted) a corporate security manager's position with a utility company. The salary is well above the norm, plus it includes numerous bonuses and awards for performance. However, (as others have posted) experience and an advanced education is a must.

                  My entire military/law enforcement/security career came into play as part of the selection process. Plus, I also have a master's in the field. I am also relocating- but the company pays the expense. One thing to consider; corporations are now realizing the importance of security related experience and education. The law enforcement experience is a plus; however, law enforcement (federal, state, or local) does not involve security related work, including management of protective forces; security planning; risk and vulnerability assessments; or the management of a budget.

                  If you are serious, start looking into security related degree programs. There are several accredited universities offering online degrees in security management/industrial security. Entering the field and getting supervisory experience is another option to consider. The thrill of wearing the badge and pursuit driving will wear off eventually, and you will then begin to re-evaluate your priorities.



                  Good Luck

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by SRT Lt View Post
                    The thrill of wearing the badge and pursuit driving will wear off eventually, and you will then begin to re-evaluate your priorities.
                    Yes it does....that's why I only do it on the weekends now....


                    Originally posted by SRT Lt View Post
                    The law enforcement experience is a plus; however, law enforcement (federal, state, or local) does not involve security related work, including management of protective forces; security planning; risk and vulnerability assessments; or the management of a budget.
                    I was lucky and got my training from the Army and have been able to parlay it into working for DHS for over 3 years....and now DoD. I went to the Physical Security School, Anti-Terrorism 1 and 2, several threat vulnerability classes, a Contracting Officers Tech Rep Class, and should be going to a school on how to incorporate PS stuff into building designs....plus an alarm design school.....

                    I am going to end up making more money within the next 2-3 years on the Fed side of the house than most Special Agents as I will be pushing GS-13/14....while most SA's are Journey'd at GS 11 or 12.....

                    If I get out of GS service and go to the contracting side of the house or the Corporate side of the house, I will make even more.....

                    And no, it's not all about the money....but it does certainly help......

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Bearcat357 View Post
                      while most SA's are Journey'd at GS 11 or 12
                      Huh? I disagree. Most 1811 are 13 journeyman positions and even the ones that are technically a 12, it's pretty much an automatic 13 (sort of like a step increase). I don't know of any 1811 that maxes out as an 11.
                      I’ll die with blue in my veins.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by GoldBadge View Post
                        Huh? I disagree. Most 1811 are 13 journeyman positions and even the ones that are technically a 12, it's pretty much an automatic 13 (sort of like a step increase). I don't know of any 1811 that maxes out as an 11.
                        The ones I have looked at were 11/12 journeymen.....guess I need to look around more...

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                        • #13
                          Ryh03001,

                          This is a question that comes up often-how do I find one of these jobs and when can I start? Having been in law enforcement and currently in the private sector-I believe you stand to make much more money in the private sector and quicker than you would in law enforcement. However, a good portion of the “100k-250k” figure” corporate security positions are not advertised on a wide scale and candidates are often recruited from other Fortune 500 security departments or select law enforcement agencies. The ones that are advertised even for a brief amount of time literarily receive hundreds of applicants-it’s a full on cattle call. The company recruiters who actually review the resumes and aren’t relying on resume screening software-spend approx 30-45 seconds reviewing a candidate’s information. The recruiter will select the top 30 applicants based on what they believe the manager is looking for and forward them on for review. The hiring manager will narrow the list to approx 5-7 people and put them through a phone interview process. From there, the manager will narrow the list to the top three and bring them in for a full day of interviews. In short-to be a serious contender a solid resume of experience is required to stand out from the pack.

                          The entry-to-mid level corporate positions draw a good salary as well (50k-80k). This is base salary only and at most Fortune 500 companies you’ll be eligible for an annual cash bonus usually 0-10% (conservative figure) and company stock grants (this is where one can do quite well).

                          The best advice I can give to becoming a marketable commodity is to work on experience, education, training/certificates and fitting in.

                          I won’t bore you with a ton of well known websites but I’ve found these two free sites with the following key word searches to be fruitful:

                          Sites:
                          Indeed.com & careerbuilder.com

                          Keywords:
                          Corporate investigator or investigations, executive protection, security operations, protective services, physical security, fraud, threat assessment, loss prevention, international security, protective forces, security manager, security director, security vice president and chief security officer.

                          Hope this helps!

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