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  • FBI Investigative/Surveillance Specialist 1801

    Hi all. I am curious about this position that the FBI has open at the moment. I haven't found a lot of information about the job, except that it mostly involves surveillance. Does anyone have any experience with this specific position? What is the job like, and is this a good stepping stone into the 1811 position?

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    Originally posted by JHoss View Post
    Hi all. I am curious about this position that the FBI has open at the moment. I haven't found a lot of information about the job, except that it mostly involves surveillance. Does anyone have any experience with this specific position? What is the job like, and is this a good stepping stone into the 1811 position?
    Not sure if we have anyone on here that does that.....

    PM me, and I will give you a website that deals more with Fed stuff.....and I have seen a few threads on there about the job......

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    • #3
      alot of travel and will be doing a lot of the agents' dirty work. the one person i know that did it, quit and went back to cbp. its not covered and it only goes to a gs-9 from what he said. that was a couple of years ago, so maybe its an 11 now??

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      • #4
        It does go to GS-11 now. I am an FBI Police Officer and know a few people in SSG. It is all surveillance work, and can be either stationary (as in watching from an adjacent building, etc) or mobile. I personally am not fond of conducting surveillance on people without a firearm (you can't carry one). They have told me of incidents in which they were "made" by someone they were watching, and it can get ugly. Just depends on what you re looking for. If you are attempting to use it as a stepping stone into better things, it has happened, but tends to be the exception rather than the rule. The job can be quite boring, as most of those you will watch will just conduct their normal life routines day to day. If you have any specific questions just post them here, and if they arent an OPSEC issue I will get an answer for you.
        sigpic Bet they got a ticket for obstructing the rear window. God Bless America!

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        • #5
          I can't speak to how the FBI would treat SSG employees when applying for an 1811 job within FBI. However, I can say that other some other agencies look favorably on that type of work experience.

          However, I will caution everyone that NO job is a magic bullet that guarantees selection for another job. So consider that when deciding to take a job.
          Last edited by SA13; 09-22-2007, 02:48 PM.

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          • #6
            Thanks for the replies. I was looking into this option as a type of stepping stone, knowing very well that there is no guarantee that I will someday be just given an 1811 job later. I think I would enjoy the surveillance job for a time. It would be new and exciting for a while, but I would hope to go for an 1811 as soon as I have the qualifications.

            ujocka - I had already thought about the carry issue. I'm also not fond of doing work like that without a weapon. Are the SSG's out a lot on their own, or are they with other agents? I'm with you, if I am following bad guys I would prefer to have a defense if things went badly.

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            • #7
              One other thing to mention some fed agencies will ask you to sign a commitment to stay in a job for a certain period of time, or you may be required to pay back expenses for moving, training, etc. However, if you are leaving one fed job for another fed job that is unenforceable. The agreement will be worded in such a way to imply that you must stay in that job, with that agency, however as long as you stay with the feds they can't force any money out of you.

              I'm not sure if the SSG job is that way, but I know the FBI does do that with their agents. A buddy of mine almost turned down a job as an FBI SA because he was worried he might get an offer from his first choice later on down the road, but before the 3 year commitment was up. Luckily he got some good legal advice and learned that as long as he went to another fed agency he wouldn't be on the hook for the money.

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              • #8
                Not to post an arbitrary question, but does anyone have any insight into how competitive this particular position is?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JH00 View Post
                  Not to post an arbitrary question, but does anyone have any insight into how competitive this particular position is?
                  From seeing on another board.....it's pretty competitive.....just like any federal LE related position.....

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                  • #10
                    Thanks Bearcat357. One more thing...is anyone aware of the length of the hiring process? I would assume that it would be relative to that of the S/A position, but we all know what happens when you assume...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by JH00 View Post
                      Thanks Bearcat357. One more thing...is anyone aware of the length of the hiring process? I would assume that it would be relative to that of the S/A position, but we all know what happens when you assume...
                      From reading posts over at the other board.....looks to be the same....as you still have to go through a background check and get a TS Clearance issued.....as you could be doing surveillance on Lord only knows what once you get out of whatever training they do....

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by GB0610
                        Be aware as well that the FBI hires people under EXCEPTED SERVICE positions. That means that you will not be able to apply for other COMPETATIVE SERVICE positions inside the G. You will have to be on for three years before you are converted, or apply for only positions as if you are a "PUBLIC" person. Hence, working for the G then provides you little benefit in the sense that you are just as limited in the positions you can apply for.

                        Foor for thought.
                        So? A person who is not employed by the government in any manner is also limited to announcements open to the public, and therefore isn't any worse off if they take an excepted service job. However, in this the person would be gaining relevant work experience that might help. Further, many fed job are excepted service. If someone wants to work for a particular agency and takes a job with FBI, AFOSI, USSS, ATF, etc, as an 1811 they too will be in an excepted service position their first three years, and be forced to apply to announcements open to the public if they want to switch jobs.

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                        • #13
                          1. Since the FBI is an excepted service agency there is no conversion to competitive like some other agencies. You will always be an excepted service employee.

                          2. SSG requires a 2 yr commitment. If you leave before the 2 years they will prorate your remaining time and (possibly) take the money back (they havent been very effective at enforcing this though.)

                          3. Most of your work is solo.
                          sigpic Bet they got a ticket for obstructing the rear window. God Bless America!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ujocka View Post
                            2. SSG requires a 2 yr commitment. If you leave before the 2 years they will prorate your remaining time and (possibly) take the money back (they havent been very effective at enforcing this though.)
                            See my earlier post as to why they have had no luck in enforcing this, just like every other agency that tries to pull that crap.

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                            • #15
                              Well, I went ahead and applied for both positions. All the people I've asked about it have said it's a decent starting position and could be a good step into other things.

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