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  • hmm...... well looks like it's there is no actual pattern.... apparently the medical isn't the final say like at MEPS and goes to another board for further review, those receiving follow-ups: where did the requests come from - the office conducting the medical screening, ICE, or a 3rd party?

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    • Westview87
      Westview87 commented
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      Appears to be ice pre-employment clearance (hrco).

    • ChavCheerios
      ChavCheerios commented
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      RetiredVet19 , The follow up should come from ICE usually in the form of an email with forms required to be filled out by whatever follow up professional you are requested to see. Just because it takes a while dont get discouraged, my medical exam physician said I was probably going to have to do an EKG follow up. So I was bummed out thinking the process was going to take longer. Two weeks later I got the PFT email with no follow up needed. Its the government, patience is the most important ( and frustrating ) thing. Remember, you've made it this far, HSI wants you.

  • Has anyone that had to complete follow-up medical stuff heard back after submitting the requested documentation? Also, is there a rough estimate for how long after submitting the documents it takes to receive notification of medical clearance or a request for more additional information?
    Last edited by JakeA6134; 10-24-2022, 11:07 AM.

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    • It's looking like one of yall will get my spot. There are no moving and/or storage companies that service my current location and Calexico. Id essentially have to rent 2 trucks, move our entire house to a storage facility near FLETC, store it for 6 months, then rent 2 more trucks, and drive 2500 miles. Lol. ABF would rent us a trailer to fill for $10k, they would move it. But they don't store it. I'm not sure how anyone who has an established life and family could do this.

      If anyone has any suggestions or insight, I'm all ears.

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      • RetiredVet19
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        should just bite the bullet for the training timeframe and only move once. Not sure if the agency would be willing to foot the moving cost or not. As for timeframe, I would have thought that something could be worked out with the office given the distances involved.....

        Most importantly, don't self-eliminate..... after all you're not the decision authority who can change these circumstances, and if you haven't brought it up and asked the questions of somebody who can impact it..... then what's the hold up with asking the questions????

      • Tydaddy
        Tydaddy commented
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        Yea, the training timeframe isn't a huge deal, however, just having been gone 6 out of the last 14 months, the family sort of wants to be close, to make visits much more convenient. Not a deal breaker either way. As for the timeframe to move, it's been my experience that they allow about a week of leave in between the academy and reporting to the office - I've seen some guys get 2 weeks - if they have that much leave left over. I'll have to look at the numbers, because I'd obviously need to take a big chunk of leave prior to heading down to FLETC to get things in order.

        I did send a rather lengthy in-depth email today to HROC. I'm not very optimistic about a positive reply, but I've spoken to a few current SA's here as well as some other folks in the agency, who also recommended reaching out, as they all - including the SA's - said if they were in my predicament, they'd probably not take the offer. We shall see!

      • RetiredVet19
        RetiredVet19 commented
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        I can relate, and I may find myself in a similar family situation when the time comes. It really is a question of 'how much of a sacrifice' are you and your family willing to make for this opportunity. Being separated is rough, especially for long periods, but it's doable, especially when you know it's temporary. Only you and yours can make the final call on how much 'short-term pain' you can handle for how much 'long-term pay-off'. Like tightening the budget to pay off debt. Just be sure you've explored all the options because it sucks to find out after the fact there was a workable solution, if you'd only ask the right people/questions.

      • Tydaddy
        Tydaddy commented
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        Some of the best advice I've gotten when choosing locations previously - the job is going to be the job where ever you go - choose a place you want to live and will enjoy outside of work. I'm at a point in my life where life outside of work is more important than my career. I can make more money where I'm at, however, if it were ALL about money, I'd still be practicing as a physical therapist! Although, I'm pretty sure I'd still be making less than I do now. Anyhow RetiredVet19, good luck to you! I hope you get to choose a location that isn't 3000+ miles from your home. :-)

    • Originally posted by Tydaddy View Post
      It's looking like one of yall will get my spot. There are no moving and/or storage companies that service my current location and Calexico. Id essentially have to rent 2 trucks, move our entire house to a storage facility near FLETC, store it for 6 months, then rent 2 more trucks, and drive 2500 miles. Lol. ABF would rent us a trailer to fill for $10k, they would move it. But they don't store it. I'm not sure how anyone who has an established life and family could do this.

      If anyone has any suggestions or insight, I'm all ears.
      Man you've done nothing but complain about everything. Why are you trying to move before you graduate from FLETC? There's always a handful of people that move their whole lives prior to graduation only to fail out of the academy.

      It also all comes down to how bad you want it. Most of us will take any location offered, and have discussed it with our families who are 100% on board. Maybe this just isn't for you.

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      • Originally posted by JayKayy View Post

        Man you've done nothing but complain about everything. Why are you trying to move before you graduate from FLETC? There's always a handful of people that move their whole lives prior to graduation only to fail out of the academy.

        It also all comes down to how bad you want it. Most of us will take any location offered, and have discussed it with our families who are 100% on board. Maybe this just isn't for you.
        FLETC was the easiest "school" I've ever attended. Its seriously like being on vacation for 6 months. I had a blast.

        Anyhow, It has nothing to do with want. My options were literally the 2 furthest locations in the US from my current location, except for Alaska. I've played this game before. Moving 3000 miles in a week after FLETC isn't possible. Graduate FLETC. Drive 900 miles back to upstate NY to turn around and drive 3000 miles back across the country? In the 5-7 days leave they allow?

        It's amazing the guys willing to give advice on something they have no experience with or know nothing about. I'll keep my fingers cross that you fellas get selected.

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        • EnforceTheLawBro
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          Very sensitive. Good luck.

        • dark321
          dark321 commented
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          Omg this guy is STILL complaining!?

        • Tydaddy
          Tydaddy commented
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          dark321 when's your class date?

        • dark321
          dark321 commented
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          I like the way the poster above said "Man you've done nothing but complain about everything."

      • Looks like I am out of the running. I got a medical follow up for my vision last week and just quickly resubmitted what they wanted from my vision doctor plus retest. I wear contacts and sometimes glasses because I’m nearsighted 20/80 ish. Which I believe is right at or over the uncorrected vision passing threshold. Also, Surgery and healing will take longer than the time given to fix/resubmit this issue. I’m hopeful and waiting for a response from the pre-employment medical unit.

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        • JayKayy
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          c. VISION.
          i. Use of soft-contact lens (SCL) for 6 months or longer is NOT subject to Successful uncorrected distant-vision standards. Those SCL users with uncorrected distant vision of worse than 20/100 must carry an extra set of SCL during field operations.

          ii. Uncorrected distant visual acuity must meet at least one of the following (corrected distant visual acuity must be 20/20 in each eye and both eyes viewing regardless of uncorrected distant visual acuity):

          1. 20/40 in one eye and no worse than 20/70 in the other eye.
          2. 20/30 in one eye and no worse than 20/100 in the other eye.
          3. 20/20 in one eye and no worse than 20/400 in the other eye.

          iii. Corrected distant visual acuity must be 20/20 in each eye.

          iv. Current near visual acuity must correct to 20/20 in the better eye.

          v. Depth perception must be greater than 100 seconds of arc or 50% or less for Shepard-Fry.
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          vi. Peripheral vision must be greater than 120 degrees in each eye.

          vii. If near visual acuity is 20/30 or better without corrective lenses, then color vision testing should be conducted without corrective lenses. The Hardy, Rand and Rittler (HRR) pseudoisochromatic plate test should be performed at or about 30 inches distance under full-spectrum lighting. Passing score is correct responses on the 6 screening plates. If there is an incorrect response on the screening plates, but correct responses on all subsequent diagnostic plates and on retesting there are no errors on the 6 screening plates, normal color vision is present. Those who fail should have the HRR repeated by an optometrist or an ophthalmologist. Ophthalmologic assessment of their color vision via anomaloscope or Farnsworth-Munsell 100 Hue Test may also be submitted for subsequent consideration

        • JayKayy
          JayKayy commented
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          If your vision with contacts is 20/20 and you've worn them for 6+ months without issues and your doc signs off, you're fine.

        • RetiredVet19
          RetiredVet19 commented
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          Never self eliminate.... make them do it..... so don't count yourself out....

        • Kdrgn7
          Kdrgn7 commented
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          Idk why but I was definitely under the impression of 20/80 being the threshold. I know I read it some where but I guess it was for a different job announcement. Thanks JayKayy

      • Is there still a two year moratorium on applying if you failed previous announcements?

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        • m.otero16
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          I believe so, but I would like some info on this as well...

      • Hello everyone, I had a question regarding the medical if anyone is familiar with this part of the process. When blood and urine is taken, do they test for pregnancy? I ask because I recently had a miscarriage but it still shows up as pregnant when testing. Do they mention this when taking blood and urine or is it just for the sole purpose of finding drugs used, diabetes ect…? Thank you!

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        • Lfreezy
          Lfreezy commented
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          Sorry about the miscarriage. My blood wasn’t taken at medical and based on the paperwork my urine was used strictly for drug testing.

        • Stay Salty VB
          Stay Salty VB commented
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          I was not required to submit any blood tests for the medical, and if I recall correctly the urine is strictly for drug a drug screen, nothing else.

        • Tydaddy
          Tydaddy commented
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          They don't do a blood draw.

      • For those who think Im "complaining"...this is what I'm up against...

        "I can run a rough estimate at 10,000lbs but for an accurate quote we would definitely need to set a virtual meeting with a relocation specialist. 10,000lbs ballparked with 5 months storage and no packing services comes in around $24,400. My system is not as exact as out estimators of course and this is just a ballpark.

        Thank you!"

        Anyone have an extra $20k lying around?​
        Last edited by Tydaddy; 10-27-2022, 10:22 AM.

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        • Tydaddy
          Tydaddy commented
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          dark321 get that offer yet?

        • dark321
          dark321 commented
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          No way this guy is 40+ and in law enforcement. He behaves like a 22 year old who just got picked up for his first corporate job making 55k.

        • Tydaddy
          Tydaddy commented
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          Again, speaking about things you know nothing of. Sorta your thing, huh?
          Last edited by Tydaddy; 10-28-2022, 08:25 PM.

        • dark321
          dark321 commented
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          We need less complainers like you in LE

      • I also got hit with a medical follow up. I wear glasses, my corrected vision is above the standard, the uncorrected vision isn’t great, hence why I wear the glasses lol. Someone else posted the standards and I guess I’m just trying to understand them as written. If one of my eyes is 20/125 uncorrected, the other one has to be 20/20 uncorrected??? Not sure if I’m reading it wrong or what just seems wonky to me.

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        • dark321
          dark321 commented
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          Check your PM

      • For anyone else that needs vision retest here is some info. Basically your distant has to be 20/20 corrected from what I understood. Then the next step is uncorrected distant and the only bypass is if you've been wearing soft contact lenses for 6 months.
        • What is the distant vision standard?

          Your vision must correct to 20/20 in each eye. You must provide documentation regarding corrected vision.
        • I wear glasses and/or contact lenses, what are the qualifications for uncorrected vision?

          Uncorrected distant visual acuity must meet at least one of the following if only glasses are used to correct distant vision:
          1. 20/40 in one eye and no worse than 20/70 in the other eye.
          2. 20/30 in one eye and no worse than 20/100 in the other eye
          3. 20/20 in one eye and no worse than 20/400 in the other eye.
        • What if I wear soft contact lenses?

          There are no uncorrected distant vision requirements for those who have worn soft contact lenses for more than six months without complications. You should bring in medical documentation supporting that you’ve suffered no corneal injury or infection with soft lens use.

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        • they had me redo the vision portion with my READING GLASSES........ ???????

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          • Stay Salty VB
            Stay Salty VB commented
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            I have my optometrist appointment scheduled today….this is the only part of the process I’m a bit put off about I’ll be honest. I get the CYA thing but they’re glasses people…pretty common thing to wear em…..

        • Still waiting for my medical to clear. Its now been 2 weeks and 2 days lol

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          • JakeA6134
            JakeA6134 commented
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            I had my medical exam on Sept. 20th, got an email for follow-up documentation on Oct. 5th. It's been 3 weeks since I submitted all the follow-up paperwork. I received an email saying my documents were uploaded for review by the medical team and once a decision was made, I'd be notified via email. Patiently (impatiently) waiting.

          • EnforceTheLawBro
            EnforceTheLawBro commented
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            I refresh my emails all day every hour lol. Im hoping this week I hear back. I keep seeing 2-3 week to hear back from medical. What was your medical follow up regarding?

          • JakeA6134
            JakeA6134 commented
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            I had to do a “vision re-test” the reason I put it in quotes was because while there was nothing wrong with my vision, the examiner filled out the paperwork improperly so HSI wanted it on their form. So I went back to the place I had my initial appointment and they just transferred my results to HSI’s document. The other follow up item I had was marriage counseling. Just had to go to the counseling office and get a letter stating it wasn’t a medical facility therefore no treatment, diagnosis, prognosis, or medication was given nor required. Getting the follow-up paperwork wasn’t terrible, now the waiting games begins…. Again!

          • MIL2LEO
            MIL2LEO commented
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            Seems like many of us were hit with the vision retest. I had to follow-up with an optometrist as well. Like Jake, I completed/passed the test originally, but the provider failed to complete the forms correctly. Submitted all follow-up documentation about one week ago. Joining the wait with the rest of you!

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          Last edited by JakeA6134; 11-01-2022, 02:49 PM.

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          • I was able to get a note from an optometrist saying she recommends my corrective lenses be worn (lol) but that glasses in her opinion would not interfere with the job duties listed. Hoping that and the pile of supporting documents im getting ready to fire at them will be enough to keep it moving.

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            • Kdrgn7
              Kdrgn7 commented
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              I did the same. I sent them the completed vision template as well as other documents provided by the optho doc. I still haven’t heard anything back. I sent it 10/23/22.

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