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  • Mission support specialist ICE June 2020

    creating a thread for those who applied to the mission support specialist June 2020 announcement

  • #2
    Well, if anyone is interested in this one, you better be quick about it, the announcement says they are only taking the first 50 per location for consideration!
    Timeline:
    DAL-ERO-10526243-DH-MJ --- DAL-ERO-10676067-DH-MJ
    Applied 11/12/19 --- Applied 1/15/20
    Essay Exam 12/12/19 --- Written Exams 3/16/20
    Referred (GL-05 & 07) 12/20/19 --- Referred (GL-05 & 07) 3/30/20
    TSL (GL-05) 6/12/20

    ((≡≡))

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    • #3
      Anything exciting about the job?

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      • #4
        Absolutely nothing
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        • #5
          If your adrenaline is peaked by reviewing and filling out PCAs, or SPOs, tracking orders, surfing through SAMS for DUNS numbers. Reconciling the office credit cards, watching spending limits, then this is for you! It really is a critical position for any office. You are part Supply Sgt., part Secretary/Admin Assistant, with a touch of accountant thrown in. It can take awhile to master but you can be the SAC’s and Agents best resource. A real good MSS is very respected. However there is little adventure outside of your computer and file cabinet. And no 20 year LE retirement.

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          • #6
            Good stepping stone to go into (HSI/ERO)?

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              It depends on what you are interested in doing in HSI or ERO. If you are looking for a stepping stone to LEO, for HSI at least, the MSS job will help you as far as getting to know the SAs and the SAC and establishing a reputation for yourself as a good worker if you do a good job.

              But as far as job skills, again just talking HSI here, if you want to show you can do a good job at things which are more relevant to becoming an SA, I would say you are better off working up by starting as a criminal analyst/ intelligence research specialist. That's not to say MSS isn't going to help you at all, it is just that CA/IRS would be better.

              In the current job climate, though, if I were you, I'd take whatever you can get. Things are getting kind of dire, you can't be too picky these days. And you could always go from MSS to CA to SA. That is, if time is on your side and you have some leeway to move around positions a bit before aging out for SA.

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              Its a secretarial work but you might be able to get to know some people who may possibly be of assistance. But its a long shot thinking a mss job is going to get you ahead.
              Last edited by SHU; 06-28-2020, 08:58 AM.

          • #7
            You’ll get to know people well, and they get to know you. You will know the support/supply side of the organization well. It is in my opinion a great background for a SAC or ASAC down the road.

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            • #8
              MSS's are the glue that holds everything together but as far as being a stepping stone for agent or even SAC? I dunno...

              Most I've known were middle age (40ish) when they hired on, often female. Many had 20 years with DOD entities, civilian or enlisted.

              GS-13 is decent pay but not everyone gets to that level. I've seen MSS's at RAC offices stall out at GS-9, doing the same work as the 13s at SAC offices. Just that they don't get to rub elbows everyday with SACs and ASACs so the cookie crumbles a little different for them.

              Can get a little catty and cliquish in big SAC offices where you have mostly male ASACs, DSAC, SAC and several MSS's are vying for their time and attention...
              What does not kill you will likely try again.

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              • #9
                Originally posted by Ratatatat View Post
                MSS's are the glue that holds everything together but as far as being a stepping stone for agent or even SAC? I dunno...

                Most I've known were middle age (40ish) when they hired on, often female. Many had 20 years with DOD entities, civilian or enlisted.

                GS-13 is decent pay but not everyone gets to that level. I've seen MSS's at RAC offices stall out at GS-9, doing the same work as the 13s at SAC offices. Just that they don't get to rub elbows everyday with SACs and ASACs so the cookie crumbles a little different for them.

                Can get a little catty and cliquish in big SAC offices where you have mostly male ASACs, DSAC, SAC and several MSS's are vying for their time and attention...
                This is all 100% true.

                MSS is an admin job. The only way it’s a stepping stone is through the fact that you’ll be working in the office and the SAC, DSAC etc will know and rely on you. And to add on to Ratatatat, most of your MSS colleagues will not be interested in being an 1811 and it will make for a very awkward work environment when you’re talking about wanting to work cases while processing travel vouchers and calling Dallas for someone in your office HR issue they need your help with.

                I know it’s not open right now, but the Intelligence Research Specialist (1805 analyst) position is a way better stepping stone to 1811 within HSI because you will actually be working on the cases with agents, getting experience in those core competencies, etc. HSI is making a push to add more Analysts so I would look there before MSS. That’s not to say you can’t make MSS work, it’s been done, just not the best route. There’s always something to be said for working for the agency and being in the actual physical office space for the job you want.

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                • #10
                  The MSS job is so far removed from the law enforcement side of the house of ICE and any law enforcement whatsoever, and shouldn't even be spoken in the same paragraph as 'foot in the door' in terms of getting an Agent/Officer job. Not as an insult to the poster but it shouldn't even be in the law enforcement job subsection of this forum.

                  It's a perfectly fine job to do your 30 years in and retire, but as said above they are often criminally underpaid as 9s in small offices, which is twice as offensive because in a small RAC office, your one MSS there is long and by far the most important person in the office. And if you're in a small office, there is no pay raise potential other than having to move, or start commuting to a bigger office.

                  Good luck nonetheless, it is a crucial role for any FLEO organization. If you want a more 'foot in the door' sorta entry level job that actually has a hint of being law enforcement, look for the 5/7 ICE investigative assistant jobs.
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                    I agree, the entry level investigative assistant job is wonderful as far as experience directly supporting LE work. IA vacancies are harder to come by, but if you get an offer -- I highly recommend it!

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