2020 ATF Schedule B Hiring

[HSIApplicant]

Does anyone know if having in-laws who are not US citizens is a disqualification? My wife is a US citizen and Vet, but her parents are not.

I would guess a big no on that one- that wouldn't be disqualifying.

[2CK2021]

Yeah, I thought the same thing. I hate to put their info out there on the background check but I have no other choice.

[Srok1]

Had a friend who went through that scenario with his father in law. They disqualified him, even with a solid letter and everything. but that was for CBP so maybe ATF doesn't give a **** about it. Who knows.

[2CK2021]

Yeah I can see that being a conflict of interest for jobs like CBP and ICE, but I hope that it won't mess up my ATF package.

[UCLA1998]

It’s not a big deal. Just put it down on your SF-86 and they’ll have to do a little more digging. It’s not a DQ. My co-worker married a foreigner after dating for 3 years.

[Grey De Leon]

Took my PFT, nailed the push-ups and sit-ups, run was rough but got the pass so now waiting on the interview. They told me that they are looking at giving more chance for PFT or pushing it back because of the current hiring climate. Similar to what the FBI has been doing with their PF test.

[NYC1175]

Do they let you rep it out on the PFT or is it once you hit the rep requirement you stop?

[Grey De Leon]

They actively told us to stop at the number it's not points based. Straight pass and fail. Though if you fail any part they stop you and game over.

[Wojo7]

They def don't want you to fail so they warn you to not push yourself like crazy before the run.

[Frank020387]

They are giving people more chances to pass the PFT? Do a good amount of people fail the test?

[Mandony]

Do you know how long is the wait from PFT to the interview? Taking my pft in a week!

[SDM8492]

No standard timeline it seems. Just dependent on the office and recruiter you are working with.

[HSIApplicant]

Waiting on interview results. Can't wait to hear back.

[Srok1]

All, been trying to reach Los Angeles div to seek possible orientation to no avail. Tried calling nationwide # as well w/no success. Anyone can PM me a contact?

edit: in contact thanks.

[OficialDDD]

Passed my interview. I received an email to complete multiple docs to continue the next process

[Frank020387]

Was the interview really tough?

[Willitopen82]

Just got email to schedule interview. I fly in to take it. LETS GO!!!!!!

[Checkmate]

Does anyone know ANYTHING about ATF's prior drug use policy? I have straight up asked the ATF recruiter and he basically said that he does not know.

[MotorT3531]

Should be identical to the DEA drug policy.

[SDM8492]

"ATF is firmly committed to maintaining a drug-free workplace. Individuals applying for ATF employment who are currently involved in illegal drug activities or substance abuse are ineligible for hiring. In addition, past involvement in illegal drug activities or misuse or abuse of substances also may disqualify an applicant from consideration for hiring. However, ATF recognizes qualified applicants may previously have participated in minimal and limited illegal drug activities or substance misuse or abuse at some point during their lifetimes.

During the background investigation process, applicants are required to disclose their current and past illegal drug activities. ATF will initially review this information and apply established internal guidelines to determine whether an applicant’s past drug activities disqualify him/her from hiring consideration. Minimal and limited previous drug activity or substance misuse or abuse that does not initially disqualify an applicant from consideration for hiring under the ATF drug policy guidelines may still be considered as unfavorable information for purposes of favorably adjudicating the applicant’s background investigation.

An applicant for an ATF position may not intentionally misrepresent his/her illegal drug activities."

Source: https://www.atf.gov/careers/drug-policy

[Checkmate]

^ That vagueness is exactly what I'm talking about. I want to know the cutoff for prior use before wasting my time with their PTT, testing etc.

[jberry811]

I am curious about this as well, with some agencies and I am good to go and other agencies I’m not. The ATFs policy has me curious where I stand.

[MotorT3531]

Should be identical to the DEA drug policy.

[ELCUHH]

Disregard.

[Checkmate]

Received an e-mail stating I am tentatively eligible for the position, with more information on testing to follow in early April.

Man, I reallly wish I could get some idea on their prior drug use policy. I don't want to waste my time if I don't meet the requirements.

[bondman007]

Got the same email!

[Eliteforce]

Just received it as well. Have you tried reaching out to a recruiter?

[NYC1175]

Same email. Better start brushing up on my math.

[NYC1175]

Sad part is that I will most likely not end up with the ATF due to how far along I am with some other agencies; but I might as well try.

[Jwebb514]

Quick question on fitness test - can you rest during pushups? The website says the pushups must be done without stopping but also that you may rest in the up position.

[Wojo7]

You can stop in the leaning rest, but I'm not sure if you can continue after you stop. I swear that you can as long as your knees don't touch the ground but it's been a few months since I took it so not entirely sure. Usually, they go over everything beforehand so you could ask them.

[OficialDDD]

You can stop in the up position. But one should be able to do all the push-ups without stopping. Not trying to sound like a Karen, just stating a fact. It’s so competitive to get into ATF, don’t risk being DQed due to a technicality. Anyways I received my Equip after waiting 1.5-2 weeks after receiving my TSL and additional forms to complete. Polys may also be waived if you have done one the past 5 years to expedite hiring because of Covid.

[cmor5150]

Any chance they are they waiving polys if you have a current ts/sci but no past poly?

[Willitopen82]

Ok got 2 questions for you. 1. Have you received a duty location yet and how long after panel interview was TSL? Thanks in advance and good luck getting what you want as far as location.

[Boston3011]

Did you have a past poly and receive reciprocity for it? If so how long did you wait? And apologize for the question if it’s dumb but what is a TSL

[OficialDDD]

No duty locations were offered and the wait time from interview to TSL was one month for me. Polys are only possibly waived if you have had one in the past 5 years. TSL is Tentative Selection Letter.

[Krisown123]

Where did you hear that they would possibly waive polys if you had one in the past 5 years ? Also , does it matter from what agency you had a poly at e.g DEA, CBP? Etc..

[Boston3011]

Just heard back and even though I have an active TS and a full scope poly in the last three years from federal LE, they’re still making me take another polygraph. Has anyone had this happen to them or heard anything on this?