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  • Anybody know the usual turn around from drug test to medical?

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    • Equip submitted on aug 5 and just got an email today about scheduling my poly in October.

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      • Completed interview earlier this week. I did well (and was told as much) but it was still the hardest LEO interview I’ve ever had. ATF doesn’t mess around.
        USMS Schedule B 2020

        09Oct20 Info Session
        13Dec20 Notice of Invitation to Apply
        18Dec20 Applied/Written Assessment
        16Jan21 Referred for GL-5
        08Mar21 Interviewed (PASS)
        19Mar21 TOL Received
        16Apr21 Contacted to schedule medical
        09Jun21 Medical Accomplished

        ATF Schedule B 2021

        25Jan21 Applied
        18Mar21 Notification of Referral/Eligibility
        05Jun21 PTT & SA Exam accomplished (PASS/PASS)
        16Aug21 Interviewed (PASS)
        10Sep21 Candidate Letter Received for GL-5 (ATF Portal)

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        • 2CK2021
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          Congrats man! would you say it was pretty standard interview questions?

        • Checkmate
          Checkmate commented
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          Fairly standard yes but there were some questions I had not prepared for and had to come up with something quickly on the spot. I had canned responses for most of the other questions but the curveballs stressed me out.

      • Originally posted by Checkmate View Post
        Completed interview earlier this week. I did well (and was told as much) but it was still the hardest LEO interview I’ve ever had. ATF doesn’t mess around.
        Can confirm. Definitely the toughest out of all my LE interviews.

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        • Without giving away too much, why would you say it was the most difficult? I've done interviews for USMS, USSS, NCIS, and the FBI for reference.

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          • Checkmate
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            I have passed interviews for USSS and USMS and it felt way harder than either of those. The quantity and specificity of the questions were challenging.

          • NYC1175
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            Checkmate between your description and the requirement of a writing sample, it seems similar to the FBI/NCIS interviews. Guess it's time to brush up on my interviewing skills again.

        • Poly completed today. Felt good vibes from guy when leaving. Either way hopefully hear something soon. Oh well bullet is out of the gun, I just hope I hit the target and not the hostage. Time to wait and check my email every 20 mins like a dope addict waiting for the results.

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          • Hey,

            Was hoping someone could answer a few questions I couldn't find via searches specific to this announcement. Thanks in advance.

            As far as the writing sample, anyone able to share a general description, as far as size and general context (writing about a current event, yourself, etc.)?

            If you already have a DoD TS, while they want to do their own DOJ one, do you need to redo an EQUIP? All the info is probably the same, minus an update here or there.

            Finally, in regards to the Schedule B Hiring.....are you more likely, space available, to get the Office you applied with if it is your highest preference? Or are they throwing people around/offering all over the place? I.E., is Schedule B just so you have a local POC to start the application process, or are you actually applying to that office?

            Thanks for everyone who has shared along the way. Have a panel interview coming up soon, and this thread has been helpful as I've gone through the process.

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            • Checkmate
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              The writing sample is very easy. I wrote more challenging essays in middle school. If you've had any kind of formal education in APA formatting I think you'll be fine.

              I don't think any federal LE agencies accept DOD clearances. At least to the best of my knowledge. Every single veteran I've known who has joined an agency has needed another investigation, even those with TS-SCI.

              For last question ref schedule B, I don't know. Maybe others who are further in the process can speak to that.

          • Not sure what this means but I took poly yesterday and guy said he was submitting it for review before he left the office. Here is the kicker I just got email for my medical stuff a few mins ago. Does that mean I passed poly?

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            • Wojo7
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              Yes. The medical email is the unofficial "you passed" without saying it directly. I was told it was being submitted for review a few months back when I did mine and got the exact same email for a drug test a day later and then a medical scheduling email a few days after that.

            • OCN_1
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              Wojo7 how long from completion of medical until the next step in the process? Got my medical scheduled next week

          • Has anyone completed the ATF poly and the CBP poly? I'm wondering how similar or different the experiences were. Obviously without violating the NDA...

            ATF has a higher pass rate from what I've heard.
            USMS Schedule B 2020

            09Oct20 Info Session
            13Dec20 Notice of Invitation to Apply
            18Dec20 Applied/Written Assessment
            16Jan21 Referred for GL-5
            08Mar21 Interviewed (PASS)
            19Mar21 TOL Received
            16Apr21 Contacted to schedule medical
            09Jun21 Medical Accomplished

            ATF Schedule B 2021

            25Jan21 Applied
            18Mar21 Notification of Referral/Eligibility
            05Jun21 PTT & SA Exam accomplished (PASS/PASS)
            16Aug21 Interviewed (PASS)
            10Sep21 Candidate Letter Received for GL-5 (ATF Portal)

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            • OCN_1
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              Checkmate there seems to be a disconnect between DHS agencies & DOJ (ATF specifically) in regards to polygraph reciprocity. I’m under DHS as well, and we were told that our agency polygraph is the only one that ATF would reciprocate - which they didn’t. However, coworker had his last week and was reciprocated completely.

            • Checkmate
              Checkmate commented
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              I give up.

            • LRTPA
              LRTPA commented
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              I’ve been monitoring this thread for a while now and haven’t felt the need to comment because most of the information put out by everyone is pretty accurate. I’m a lateral candidate who applied in May and have done the PT test, interview, and background. I received an email today from ATF asking if I’ve completed a poly within the last five years for any government agency. They said because of COVID they are reciprocating polys from other agencies. I responded that I did not complete one with the last five years and within 10 minutes sent me an eQip link to complete the eQip packet and register for a poly. So they are reciprocating polys.

            • Frank020387
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              Last edited by Frank020387; 08-30-2021, 07:16 PM.

          • Just wrapped up my interview, it was roughly 1-1.5Hrs. I'd put it right up there with the FBI interview, though lot more GS14 interviewing than with the FBI interview. Now onto the next step.

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            • Drug test notice came through today. Medical scheduled for Friday. What come after these and how long?

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              • Grey De Leon
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                Willitopen82 how long was it between your interview and getting the TOL package?

              • Checkmate
                Checkmate commented
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                I'd like to know that too ^

            • Anyone on here have to retake the poly more than once?

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              • Kt_kt_kt
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                Yes I did. Took the polygraph twice. 3 months apart. And I moved on to the next step in the process.

            • Originally posted by Willitopen82 View Post
              Drug test notice came through today. Medical scheduled for Friday. What come after these and how long?
              Mine took like 4 months

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              • Interview done. I'll echo what other's said and say that it's the most difficult one I've done so far. I felt I did well though, so now the wait begins.

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                • How long is it typically between interview and the next step? Is it an e-mail notification/TOL or…? They said at the interview that you may get something via snail mail.
                  USMS Schedule B 2020

                  09Oct20 Info Session
                  13Dec20 Notice of Invitation to Apply
                  18Dec20 Applied/Written Assessment
                  16Jan21 Referred for GL-5
                  08Mar21 Interviewed (PASS)
                  19Mar21 TOL Received
                  16Apr21 Contacted to schedule medical
                  09Jun21 Medical Accomplished

                  ATF Schedule B 2021

                  25Jan21 Applied
                  18Mar21 Notification of Referral/Eligibility
                  05Jun21 PTT & SA Exam accomplished (PASS/PASS)
                  16Aug21 Interviewed (PASS)
                  10Sep21 Candidate Letter Received for GL-5 (ATF Portal)

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