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  • For timeline purposes-

    Poly scheduled. Does anyone know if they schedule Poly your BI was sent in for adjudication? Also, I had my medical and psych a while back- how are those renewals or are you required to renew?

    Just really excited to be moving forward! It’s been a 3 year journey.

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    • Boozer1357
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      My poly was scheduled and completed about a week prior to my BI being sent over for adjudication. I just called OPM Monday and they said my BI was completed a week ago and sent over to DEA. BI took about a little over a month for me. My timeline:
      Applied: July 2020
      PT/Written: September 2020
      Panel/COL: October 2020
      Submitted eqip first time: November 2020
      Submitted eqip second time: December 2020
      BI started/interview: January 2021 (first week)
      Poly: January 2021 (last week of January)
      BI completed: February 2021
      Psych written: February 2021
      Medical scheduled: March 2021

  • Well I got an email today to schedule my written and interview since I passed my pt test back in November. I understand that no one can disclose anything about the written or interview but I have a question, during the interview, do they let you state your resume and career experience or is it all just scenario based? Thank you

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    • Squall
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      They have a list of questions they ask you and you draw from your work/life experience to answer those questions. Closely study the critical skills identified under the structured panel interview section of the brochure they sent you and then google the STAR interview method and you'll do great.

    • Levithane
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      Look over the study guide they sent you, it has everything you need in it. I looked over it a lot prior to my interview, and ended up having a decent interview with them last year. If its a MAC they should give you your interview results the same day, same with the written part.

    • ZH97
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      I had my interview in December. First time ever having that sort of interview and I can confirm that, at least in my experience, everything you need to know truly is in the study guide. I just came up with a bunch of different scenarios from my past that applied to each category and I ended up being fine.

  • Originally posted by WannabeAgent View Post
    dk_wsmg BP is an awesome way to get your foot in the door no doubt, its a fun job too. BP was my first fed agency of several and it was also one of my funnest. Apply any and everywhere, don't ever tell yourself no, let that come from someone else.
    WannabeAgent and the other who gave a thumbs up on the status,

    Thanks for the confirmation. BP seems like it would be a blast, with no work day ever being the same. That last part of your response is a good call as well.
    Last edited by dk_wsmg; 02-11-2021, 10:21 AM.

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    • WannabeAgent
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      I give solid advice my man. I'm not one to talk on something that I don't have first hand experience in. I'm no a he-said, she-said, I-heard type of guy. BP was the funnest job I've had and on my 2nd day off of the week I was ready to go back. Depending on where you are, you're basically getting paid to hike and play hide and seek. Its an awesome job man, I had a blast. BP has so many different units you can transfer over to within also, ATV 's, horses, K-9's, BORTAC, BORSTAR, intelligence/crim unit, all good stuff.

  • Does anyone know the chances of being able to contest the grade given with the COL? I was given a grade 9, but given my experience, i feel i should be entitled to an 11 (spent last few years working on federal investigations). the recruiter told me that i should be able to appeal it at some point, and they mentioned that they (DEA) generally like to give their applicants what they deserve as far as grade assignment goes.
    Just wondering if anyone has had success with an appeal and if so, how should i start the process?
    I dont want to be greedy, but also feel i should be given the status that i qualify for.

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    • Applied: August 2019
      Written: October 2019
      Interview: November 2019
      PT/COL: December 2019
      PT Retest: August 2020
      Submitted Eqip: October 2020
      PT Retest: February 2021
      Polygraph: Scheduled March 2021
      Psych Written: Waiting
      Psych In Person: Waiting
      Medical scheduled: Waiting

      1 Year 6 months down

      Fingers are crossed that after the polygraph things start to pick up. Just finished up with a PT test where one of the other applicants was a month ahead of me when they applied and already has a class date and a job offer as soon as they passed that final PT test. So close to being done with this process. I understand everyone's situation is different but nevertheless it still disheartening to see some of the newer people on this forum post their timelines and pass you up. Here's hoping everyone that has been waiting for a hot minute, even those that applied before me, make it.

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      • Levithane
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        Any idea why it took close to a year to get your eqip?

      • Epicthrower
        Epicthrower commented
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        I found out that my recruiter never sent up my fingerprints after they took them back in November 2019. If it wasn't for this forum and the people on here that could help out with their resources who knows how much longer I would have been waiting on that.

      • porkchop23
        porkchop23 commented
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        Epicthrower, how did you know your recruiter didn't send them?

      • Epicthrower
        Epicthrower commented
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        @porkchop32 I was able to get a hold of one of the security specialist who then notified me that they had all of the required documents to start my eqip but my fingerprints. Now I just want to clarify, I may not know the entire story surrounding why my fingerprints were not sent up, but after talking with the specialist he had said they would request it from my recruiter, and within the week I had an email asking me to start my eqip.

    • Does anyone know the possibility of being passed on even after successfully and satisfactory completing all stages of process?

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      • Police1234
        Police1234 commented
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        Got the email yesterday that my file is going to the hiring panel soon.

      • nonotnow
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        Yes people get passed over once they've done all the steps. I'm sure its not super common but it absolutely does happen.

      • AJ_81
        AJ_81 commented
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        Hey police1234, did they actually send you an email when your stuff was sent to hiring panel? That is all I am waiting on as well. Also anyone know of actual start dates for March?

      • Police1234
        Police1234 commented
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        I emailed my recruiter and told her I hadn’t heard anything and she called HQ And told me that everything was going up to the hiring panel soon.

    • Does anyone know what the specific vision requirements are for DEA? I know they vary for most federal agencies but only thing I can find on the DEA website is “sufficiently good vision in each eye” whereas USSS and others state a specific acuity. I wear corrective lenses and have medical coming up in just a couple of weeks.

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      • Hello guys just a quick question.

        As I have posted before, I scheduled my written and interview for February 23, 2021 and February 24, 2021. I think is a MAC, well the email says DEASAMAC. Some one replied to my prior post that if it's a MAC I will know the results of the written test and interview. Does that mean that if I pass, I will get out of there with a COL? Thank you in advance for any input on this!!

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        • Levithane
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          MAC Process

          Written: You show up follow instructions the recruiter gives you, and you take the test. If you pass you are notified right on the spot, those who fail are notified and escorted out. My written test wasn't at a MAC, but Im sure the same thing essentially happens.

          Interview: You get escorted to a room with Agents interviewing you. If you pass you are notified on the spot by one of the personnel. When I interviewed it wasn't the recruiter who told me I passed it was someone else.

          Once you pass those at some point you get a COL. You are told to fill out more paper work and return it in the specified amount of time. Now here's what I haven't seen posted on here is that there is a review by the drug panel after you submit everything, if you admit to some form of usage. Now if you were an idiot in your youth like I was you probably experimented with the devils grass (MJ) during your younger years. If you have something like that it will go to the panel, and be reviewed. How long that takes I wouldn't be able to tell you as I haven't the slightest idea.

          Now if you don't have something such as that, you'll probably get an eqip in a few months.

      • Anyone else been accused of using countermeasures after their poly was completed?

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        • WannabeAgent
          WannabeAgent commented
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          Levithane it does not impact my current status because for one, countermeasures do not count as a failure. I have seen that is a common result that happens to current LE's that have taken polys as well. It is odd yes, but doesn't seem out of the norm from what I have researched. I
          Last edited by WannabeAgent; 02-24-2021, 06:17 AM.

        • WannabeAgent
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          porkchop23 I was advised that it is suspended until further review by the board who makes the final determination to move forward or to close the file. I anticipate them to close the file though. I've been told by current Agents that failures or inconclusive results can be retested, however countermeasures are not. Probably because they see that Countermeasures have already produced positive charts so there would be no need to retest, so they just decide that because they were able to produce perfect charts, that they must have used countermeasures, despite being Federal Agents for 10+ years and holding TS/SCI clearances. Its a ridiculous and unjust accusation, but I'm not surprised either. Is what it is.

        • porkchop23
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          WannabeAgent Thanks for explaining. Sounds like a stinky system. Fingers crossed that it works out for you!!

        • WannabeAgent
          WannabeAgent commented
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          porkchop23 No worries, I'm in with a good gig anyways. Was a little disappointing at first but I'm a firm believer in that it was meant to be and things happen for a reason. i'm over it and don't really expect to move forward. The poly is a total scam though no doubt, biggest con scheme in the govt but is what it is.

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        • I have my polygraph next week (first time doing one). In the email the polygraph examiner sent me, it said that it could take 4-6 hours. Does it usually take that long? Additionally, while I do not have anything to hide (I am NOT looking for how to "trick" the polygraph) any information on what to expect or tips to make sure it runs smoothly and I don't accidentally screw myself over would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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          • Police1234
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            Plan for it to take all of the 6hrs if not more. Mine was a little more than 6 hrs. I didn’t have anything either just took that long. Relax and be honest I know that’s what everyone says but that’s the only way to really get by one.

          • WannabeAgent
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            ZH97 yes it will take a minimum of 4 hours. It's nonsense really, they try to make it look like this machine can really determine if you're telling the truth or not. Its a con really, scare tactic, nothing more nothing less. You're examiner will lie to you and want you to believe that he/she is your friend and they are there to help you pass. Thats not true, they will tell you you're hiding something and its best that you get it off your chest now, its all a BS con, scare tactic and thats all. Some people will fall for it, but anyone with any common sense knows its governments biggest con in history. There's a reason why the supreme court does not allow the results to be introduced into court, because its not reliable thats why. Relax, and whatever you believe to be true, is true thats pretty much it. If its not documented somewhere that it happened, then only you can let that information out to be known.

          • ZH97
            ZH97 commented
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            Thanks a lot guys. I’d heard it was a bit of a scam and your advice definitely makes me feel more relaxed going into this.

          • Winter_Patriot
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            You can totally fail the polygraph even when you are honest and answer questions the right way, i.e. not admitting to anything that would be disqualifying. It should be used as a tool to gather admissions and information, but there are agencies that will not hire you (and never let you apply again) based on your physiological reactions alone during the test.

        • I completed my psych written about two weeks ago but haven’t heard anything back about doing the psych interview. Does anyone have a rough estimate of how long the wait is between these two steps? I’m completing the last steps of the process next week so I was hoping I’d get to do the psych interview either this week or next and have my packet complete.

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          • Anyone hear about academy dates after March yet? My recruiter told me they are in the dark too.

            Regarding polygraphs, all I can say is every scientific authority not associated with the polygraph industry has publicly stated they are invalid, the tests are largely inadmissible in court, and there is 30+ year old federal legislation outlawing their use for nearly every private employer. Having gone through a number of them, I think the meat and potatoes is the pre-polygraph interview. My condolences to anyone who was unfortunate enough to receive a false positive; its the application phase where you have the least control over the outcome.

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            • WannabeAgent
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              Squall, totally agreed. I dont know whats worse, a false positive or being accused of countermeasures without any basis which essentially only means "you produced passing charts (in other words, beat our stupid machine) and we don't know how you did that, all we can think of is that you used countermeasures." But yea, is what it is.

            • Police1234
              Police1234 commented
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              I have not heard a thing on the March academy. Hoping because maybe it’s starting near the end of March and the calls haven’t gone out. I know a recruiter told a person on this forum he was in the running so surely there actually is one. I’m kind of thinking I’m more of a May hopeful but then again who knows they could send me my stuff and an academy assignment all in one seems like I never know what to expect.

              How long did it take you to hear from the time your file was complete until you got you final offer and location preferences?
              Last edited by Police1234; 02-25-2021, 11:16 AM. Reason: **Spelling

            • Squall
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              No final offer/preferences yet. Just curious about mapping out possible academy dates in the future.

            • Winter_Patriot
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              It's tough. I did an FBI poly 15 years ago. I was inconclusive on the first test. Second test was false positives. I attribute that to being someone who overthinks questions. I was the definition of a square, I had never drank underage and I had no idea what marijuana smelled like, but still had trouble on that question.

              We use polygraphs as a tool to uncover things, especially in probation. But I don't think the results themselves are ever relied upon by federal judges.

              I was allowed to take a total of two polys for the FBI during the same hiring cycle. Per a recruiter, I'm not ever eligible to apply again based on not passing the polygraph in 2005.
              Last edited by Winter_Patriot; 02-26-2021, 02:35 PM.

          • Got my approval for hire letter today!

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            • Spr5088
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              I was just using those numbers as reference. My point was that the recruiter said they have a lot of discretion over if someone needs a PT refresher or not depending on how long it had been since their last

            • Police1234
              Police1234 commented
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              Yeah I get what you meant, just hoping I don’t have to wait that long and yeah my recruiter had me do the refresher so my file was completely up to date. I know they told me I was in the running for an “upcoming” BAT. Assuming that’s standard. But who knows actually when.

            • Spr5088
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              Latest I heard as of yesterday is late March class and a late May class.

            • Police1234
              Police1234 commented
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              That sounds good for me really hoping for the late March class.

          • Hello everyone, new on here. I’ve been in the process since 2019. I’m currently at the final stages of the process. I was curious to know what has been the time frame for the background to be completed? Also did the background investigator notify you at the beginning or end of the investigation?

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            • Levithane
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              When I did BI's I never notified the person when their investigation came to an end. That's because your investigation is more than likely to be split up among multiple people. Unless you have lived in the same place for 10 years+ with the same job, your investigation is going to be handled by multiple people. When I had something assigned to me it was completed in about a week absent mitigating circumstances. The longest part across the board seems to be the adjudication phase (when your file is being looked over).

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