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  • Each phase a significant amount of ppl are lost and at some point ppl take other jobs. The Interview, assessment and PT are the main parts tht ppl out of the process. There is a 5% chance tht an applicant gets hired and makes it through the academy. Many try and many ppl fail. Making it pass each phase is a blessing. We are fighting with others throughout the US to land this job.

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    • Research McGirt v Oklahoma ruling and how that has impacted the Federal Government in a general sense. With the current recruitment push, a lot of folks currently in the hiring process may find themselves in the Midwest. Good luck to you all currently in the process and stay safe.

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      • LanceWhite
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        LanceWhite commented
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        Great point, I have heard of several people being reassigned to E/OK that are either in the academy or awaiting a date.

    • Anyone from the SLC interview group recently get contacted for the drug screening?

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    • Yes, I did mine last week. I haven't completed anything else, but I didn't expect to this early.

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    • Good morning, has anyone used or is planning to use the post 9-11 GI bill for the academy and OJT. Can you tell me how it works. Also does the USMS consider the time that it takes you to become an 1811 as OJT.

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      • Chicks406
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        I used it for my current LEO position at the police academy. It’s really easy, they will provide a form you fill out and they do the rest. Same for OJT you just have to fill out another form (I did mine in department letter head) with hours worked and have a supervisor sign it.

    • Thank for the info, I heard USMS you can't use it until you Graduate. Then they will back pay you finish the academy.

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      • Might be a stupid question - but does anyone have any idea of the next possible vacancy announcement date? Missed the last one and I’m regretting it more and more each day

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        • big_bob_69
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          big_bob_69 commented
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          Call your local USMS office and ask to speak with a recruiter. Or email if you can find the email address.

          They don't really do postings. This is common for Schedule B hiring. If you want to do ATF or DEA, they use a similar process.

      • Anyone know before your a GS11 1811 and just a 0083 if there is over time? a GS 5 is a pretty steep pay cut for me but i don't mind it if I can work overtime to make up for it.

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        • Checkmate
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          Checkmate commented
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          ^TXSP, can you comment further on OT at the academy?

        • Njw85
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          Depends on the instructor, but you will receive OT in the academy. We received lots of OT but we had a great instructor. I’ve heard of others not receiving much at all. Just depends. As for the district, good luck with that. Not much OT is handed out like that. Just try to manage until you get your 1811. Most of you are taking paycuts, but it’s what you’ve signed up to do, hopefully in the future the USMS will be granted entry 9 grade levels but who knows if that will ever happen.
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          Last edited by Njw85; 06-03-2021, 09:03 PM.

        • TXSP
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          I was told there are lots of six day work weeks in the academy… I haven’t spoken to any recent cadets though.

        • ATG1729
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          6 day work weeks are the exception, not the rule. They were doing it while FLETC was under heavier COVID restrictions to try to speed up the classes and get people in and out faster. The other time it's happened recently is a class a couple years ago got sent home for like 10 days or something due to an approaching hurricane, so they had training days they had to make up, so they went to 6-day weeks until they were back on schedule. The norm is 5-day training week, though.

      • Anyone here from the Colorado info session in March? If yes has there been any update to your process since then? I got the courtesy email about a month ago.

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        • Do you need to have a final TS when you start the academy or is an interim ok?

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          • Donjuan85657
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            You have to be cleared to be able to have a TS Clearance but don’t have the TS clearance until your read in, sign NDA’s etc.

            As to your question - you have to have a complete and adjudicated background prior to the academy. I do not believe the Marshals have done or do interims.

          • Winter_Patriot
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            There are no interims to my knowledge either. Some agencies like DEA (DI) used to accept interims but have since gotten away from that practice due to being burned. Closest you will get is probably your adjudicated clearance being relied on by USMS. There's no "accelerated" or interim process like the DEA does or has done in the past.

        • Anyone get a TOL and not get contacted for medical/drug/background?

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          • RicardoCrashe
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            Definitely more than 45 days. Emailed them and they sent me the generic “active applicant email”

          • ELleo215
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            Same with me. Emailed them and got the same email back.

          • Winter_Patriot
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            Winter_Patriot commented
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            For the first wave out of Dallas, TX, it was only a few days between the TOL and initial medical/background instructions. I did my medical a few weeks later. I have not been asked to send in an SF86 or talk to a background investigator yet.

          • ELleo215
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            Yeah I got the email to do eQIP and finger prints and got that done. Now just waiting to get an email about the medical.

        • Completed my interview on 04/21 in SLC and haven’t heard anything since. Neither a ineligible letter or TOL. Anyone else same?

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          • Originally posted by Winter_Patriot View Post
            I don't get the scoring system. I thought it was a pass/fail. Sounds like it's possible to "pass," but still not move on because they set the cutoff at something higher than the fail percentage?
            Correct. You can get an 85 but if the cutoff is 87 you are SOL.

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            • I just got an email saying that I should expect another email in the next few days to apply on USAJOBS. They also mentioned that I will need to upload documents. My question is, what documents will I need to have ready to upload?

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              • Winter_Patriot
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                San Diego in October 2020.

              • IVAHN
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                I went to the info session mid March in KCMO.

                For my college transcripts, could I call my school tomorrow and have them send me an “unofficial copy” via email, and then upload that? I know it usually takes weeks to get official copies, and I only have a few days notice.
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                Last edited by IVAHN; 06-09-2021, 08:22 PM.

              • Winter_Patriot
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                I’m unsure if they need to be official or not. I suspect your background investigator will want an official one. Sometimes the fed government is practical and will accept documents that are close enough, other times HR will just use that as a reason to cut applications. I’d like to think USMS would give you a chance to get official ones if the unofficial version isn’t enough.

              • Chicks406
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                Did anyone who got this email already do an interview and receive a TOL? I just got this today also, but have also done the interview and received a TOL. Seems a little backwards?

            • Originally posted by IVAHN View Post
              I just got an email saying that I should expect another email in the next few days to apply on USAJOBS. They also mentioned that I will need to upload documents. My question is, what documents will I need to have ready to upload?
              Just received the same thing and did mine in March as well anybody whose taking the exam before… how long does it take to receive your results?? Right then and there or couple of weeks?

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              • Winter_Patriot
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                Winter_Patriot commented
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                You never get your score as far as I know, but if you have a high enough score, you’ll be referred. My referral notice came about two weeks after the assessment. I had an interview offer about five or six weeks later.

              • bghny1995
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                bghny1995 commented
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                I received my invitation to interview at midnight almost exactly a month later and then the notice of referral that night.

              • NYC1175
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                NYC1175 commented
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                Process may/may not be picking up a bit for those of us in the interview/pre-interview stage. I took the assessment April 30th, got the interview email May 28th and got the referral the same day (May 28th) after scheduling my interview.

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