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    There are healthy posts for CBPO and BPA.... havent seen any on MIA applications. Figured I'd try to start one here for those who have done the process to provide feedback and those in the process to provide hope.

    Applied - 12/15/18
    NOR - ???
    CBPO 15-6 **3 yr recall w/ Military***
    CBPO (67%)
    Eqip: done
    PFT1: 11/08/2018
    Medical: 10/30/2018
    SI: 12/11/2018
    Poly: 4/15/2019
    Poly 2: 5/22/2019
    Poly 2 Check: 5/30/2019
    Drug Screen: 06/05/2019
    BI (initial email): 06/10/2019
    BI Meet: 06/24/2019
    PFT2: 06/26/2019
    Final Call: 07/08/2019 **turned down for GS9**

    CBPO 19-9 (75%)
    Referred: 07/03/2019
    Eqip / Medical / SI / Poly check: 07/09/2019
    PFT1 / Drug Test check: 07/18/2019
    BI check: ??
    Final Call: 08/30/2019 (Gs9 SEA-TAC)
    EOD: 11/15/2019

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Talonderiel View Post
      There are healthy posts for CBPO and BPA.... havent seen any on MIA applications. Figured I'd try to start one here for those who have done the process to provide feedback and those in the process to provide hope.

      Applied - 12/15/18
      NOR - ???
      do you have a OUPV from the Coast Guard?

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      • Talonderiel
        Talonderiel commented
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        Yes, I do have my OUPV. This last deployment in the US Navy Reserves gave me more than enough time on the water with 3 years experience operating as a tactical craft boat captain.

    • #4
      I work for Air Marine. You need to have either a OUPV or a Masters license. Most everyone hired has a Masters license of 50 tons or greater and law enforcement experience and or military experience. After you apply and do the poly and background you will take a 100 question nautical knowledge exam and chart plotting test then a vessel handing skills assessment. Pass all that you get a job offer and academy date. After academy there is additional marine law enforcement course's you will attend prior to hitting the field..., well water actually.

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      • Talonderiel
        Talonderiel commented
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        Thank you for your guidance, DiverB72!

        - I have the OUPV, issued this Dec in time for the Dec 15th application closing
        - Over 3 years experience (13 yrs US Navy Reserves) as a tactical craft boat captain (34' PB) doing HVA escorts, intercepts, and static defense... The man who trained me for the job is a MIA out of St. Thomas and sold me on it 3 years ago!
        - I have experience with federal law enforcement, did an 8 month contract LEO for Cape Canaveral Air Force Station/Auxiliary for NASA and the National Missile Launch Command and Naval Ordnance Test Facility. And 4 years in a Navy Security Forces unit with Military Law Enforcement powers.
        - I know it probably doesn't count, but I have almost 5 years experience with Hospital Security (licensed and credentialed) covering adherence to policy, procedure, and customer service skills in the unique environment of Healthcare.

        I'm single and used to being deployed for the last ~8 years with the Navy Reserve.... So give me 4 hours notice and I'll go to the Duty Station that is hardest to fill. lol

        My only concern is how skilled I need to be on the vessel handling assessment. Given a jet-drive boat, I'll walk circles around an object and be at home while providing a stable shooting platform. But I'm not that proficient on a outboard. I can safely operate one and execute dynamic operations easily enough, just the slow speed maneuvering (docking/launching/recovering) will be done at overly safe speeds till I readjust from jet-drives.

    • #5
      I'm sure if you go out for a few hours and practice on a twin engine boat splitting power plants for docking then also docking with steering only (no splitting) you will be fine. Good luck

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      • #6
        Thank you! I will hit up my buddies and borrow their boats. I'm sure its just learning a new pivot point and the joy of immediate responses again. Jet boats can have some awful lag at low rpms.
        CBPO 15-6 **3 yr recall w/ Military***
        CBPO (67%)
        Eqip: done
        PFT1: 11/08/2018
        Medical: 10/30/2018
        SI: 12/11/2018
        Poly: 4/15/2019
        Poly 2: 5/22/2019
        Poly 2 Check: 5/30/2019
        Drug Screen: 06/05/2019
        BI (initial email): 06/10/2019
        BI Meet: 06/24/2019
        PFT2: 06/26/2019
        Final Call: 07/08/2019 **turned down for GS9**

        CBPO 19-9 (75%)
        Referred: 07/03/2019
        Eqip / Medical / SI / Poly check: 07/09/2019
        PFT1 / Drug Test check: 07/18/2019
        BI check: ??
        Final Call: 08/30/2019 (Gs9 SEA-TAC)
        EOD: 11/15/2019

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        • #7
          I emailed the AMO HR email again about my application, since I had yet to receive a NOR and the 19-6 is closing on the 15th.... They confirmed my fears, I was not referred. Not sure why they didn't tell me sooner.

          So I've re-worked my resume to the verbiage they said I didn't show enough about and resubmitted for MIA 19-6. Hopefully 2nd time around is a go. If not, I'll have to get professional assistance with the resume writing. lol

          At least CBPO and BPA are still rolling along.
          CBPO 15-6 **3 yr recall w/ Military***
          CBPO (67%)
          Eqip: done
          PFT1: 11/08/2018
          Medical: 10/30/2018
          SI: 12/11/2018
          Poly: 4/15/2019
          Poly 2: 5/22/2019
          Poly 2 Check: 5/30/2019
          Drug Screen: 06/05/2019
          BI (initial email): 06/10/2019
          BI Meet: 06/24/2019
          PFT2: 06/26/2019
          Final Call: 07/08/2019 **turned down for GS9**

          CBPO 19-9 (75%)
          Referred: 07/03/2019
          Eqip / Medical / SI / Poly check: 07/09/2019
          PFT1 / Drug Test check: 07/18/2019
          BI check: ??
          Final Call: 08/30/2019 (Gs9 SEA-TAC)
          EOD: 11/15/2019

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          • #8
            How long would it realistically take to get one of these license if you go a job part time in the maritime industry?

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            • Talonderiel
              Talonderiel commented
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              90 days worth of sea service within the last year and a total of at least 1 year of sea service. And, 90 of those days need to be on the ocean, past the line of demarkation, or your license will be limited to inland only. 1 day is defined as 4 hours underway.

              So part time, you are looking at almost 2 years if you are working part time. However, you can also include time on the water for personal boating too, if you document it correctly.

              https://www.dco.uscg.mil/Portals/9/N...ea_service.pdf

          • #9
            Originally posted by Rmodel1965 View Post
            How long would it realistically take to get one of these license if you go a job part time in the maritime industry?

            It takes 1 year of underway experience (underway time is viewed as 4hrs per day to count as a day) to get the 6 pack license. You can count time if you own or have owned a boat. I have owned a 24' boat for years and i used that time and the time i was on the BP Marine patrol to get my 6 pack, then I got underway with the Coast Guard to get my 50 Ton. You can pay to take a weekend course to help prep you for the written exam. You just need to get your physical and TWIC (Transit Workers ID Card) on your own.

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            • #10
              I have a twic and live here on the Atlantic coast. Maybe I should see about getting my license. Currently fed leo the marine interdiction looks interesting for sure

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              • Talonderiel
                Talonderiel commented
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                Go for it! I'd say it's a dream job.... but I might be biased lol

            • #11
              My buddies who are MIA's like it. If you have any specific questions let me know and I can call one of them to get the answer for you. I work for AMO, but am not a MIA, I work on the aviation side

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              • Talonderiel
                Talonderiel commented
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                DiverB72, thank you again for your assistance! If i was younger or kept up with my hours, I'd ask about applying AIA..... but I've heard the hour requirements is crazy and I left that life behind me after graduating from my alma mater.

            • #12
              Well, I got an immediate response to the 19-6 MIA announcement when it closed. Was told that I still didn't show enough law enforcement experience in my resume. So the same answer twice. I rewrote my resume from a 2 page civilian style to a rough federal resume 9 pages in length.

              I will seek some professional assistance in wording my law enforcement with the military... Anyone have experience with this?
              CBPO 15-6 **3 yr recall w/ Military***
              CBPO (67%)
              Eqip: done
              PFT1: 11/08/2018
              Medical: 10/30/2018
              SI: 12/11/2018
              Poly: 4/15/2019
              Poly 2: 5/22/2019
              Poly 2 Check: 5/30/2019
              Drug Screen: 06/05/2019
              BI (initial email): 06/10/2019
              BI Meet: 06/24/2019
              PFT2: 06/26/2019
              Final Call: 07/08/2019 **turned down for GS9**

              CBPO 19-9 (75%)
              Referred: 07/03/2019
              Eqip / Medical / SI / Poly check: 07/09/2019
              PFT1 / Drug Test check: 07/18/2019
              BI check: ??
              Final Call: 08/30/2019 (Gs9 SEA-TAC)
              EOD: 11/15/2019

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              • Rmodel1965
                Rmodel1965 commented
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                Email the posting and ask questions

              • Talonderiel
                Talonderiel commented
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                I emailed the AMO HR specialist for the first one, since I didn't get the message and was given the response of "you did not show enough law enforcement experience in your resume."

                The 19-6 application was almost immediate, like 2 business days after the closing of the application, that I got a message saying the exact same phrase.

                Thankfully, I have a friend that writes Federal Resumes as her profession.... I sent her the job posting and the two resumes I sent. She told me I owe her three bottles of wine while she tries to fix my "horrible, horrible, childish" resumes. :\

                This is the first time I've needed a resume that's more than just an apprentice level job application (which basically doesn't need a resume). So I'm getting lessons from her and her husband on how my resumes probably didn't get seen by a person the first time, and then the second time the person, if they saw it, would have just trashed it.

            • #13
              Anyone have insight as to when/where the next vessel assessment will be scheduled? Furthermore, when the next AMBT class is scheduled for?

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              • Talonderiel
                Talonderiel commented
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                So, I have a friend that has done everything but the Vessel Assessment... they have even called to ask where he wants to work if accepted....   The recruiter told him that they are looking to do 4 academies in 2020 (January, February, May and July).    That would put the next vessel assessment in October time frame.  He was also told that PR is pretty much what they are recruiting for right now.

            • #14
              I have two apps in awaiting to see if attempt 3 or attempt 4 gets past the HR gatekeepers. Attempt 4 has a 15 page federal resume, vetted by a Veteran's organization (as I suck at writing federal resumes). So here's hoping!

              My friends that are MIAs have suggested that I take a job with CBPO or BPA for 2 years and then transfer over, so that's an option too. Actually turned down a gs7 CBPO position and am awaiting the call for a gs9 CBPO position here in the next 2 weeks.

              I've been told that it's not uncommon to have someone do the OFO academy and be picked up for MIA after graduating FLETC, then staying to start the AMO FLETC section. So who knows? :P
              CBPO 15-6 **3 yr recall w/ Military***
              CBPO (67%)
              Eqip: done
              PFT1: 11/08/2018
              Medical: 10/30/2018
              SI: 12/11/2018
              Poly: 4/15/2019
              Poly 2: 5/22/2019
              Poly 2 Check: 5/30/2019
              Drug Screen: 06/05/2019
              BI (initial email): 06/10/2019
              BI Meet: 06/24/2019
              PFT2: 06/26/2019
              Final Call: 07/08/2019 **turned down for GS9**

              CBPO 19-9 (75%)
              Referred: 07/03/2019
              Eqip / Medical / SI / Poly check: 07/09/2019
              PFT1 / Drug Test check: 07/18/2019
              BI check: ??
              Final Call: 08/30/2019 (Gs9 SEA-TAC)
              EOD: 11/15/2019

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              • #15
                Originally posted by Talonderiel View Post
                I have two apps in awaiting to see if attempt 3 or attempt 4 gets past the HR gatekeepers. Attempt 4 has a 15 page federal resume, vetted by a Veteran's organization (as I suck at writing federal resumes). So here's hoping!

                My friends that are MIAs have suggested that I take a job with CBPO or BPA for 2 years and then transfer over, so that's an option too. Actually turned down a gs7 CBPO position and am awaiting the call for a gs9 CBPO position here in the next 2 weeks.

                I've been told that it's not uncommon to have someone do the OFO academy and be picked up for MIA after graduating FLETC, then staying to start the AMO FLETC section. So who knows? :P
                CBPO positions that are on boats are extremely far and in between, and even the ones they have aren't out on boats doing maritime LE missions shooting out engines of smuggling boats. They're just on little center consoles riding around the port just doing security checks. And that's a tiny number of people doing that, and you can bet it's some senior CBPOs doing it.

                In your particular example above, if that happens it isn't because they went OFO academy. Remember, your application closes the day the USAjobs vacancy closes, and can't be updated afterwards. This is why you have to have the six pack by closing date, and being in process for it isn't good enough (because they can't update your app as 'he since obtained his OUPV' after it closes). So if you were hired by CBP after you submit your MIA application, that plays no role in your being selected by AMO. So why bother going to an academy for a job you don't want just to do another. I feel like none of that above cane out as concise as I wanted it to but hopefully it makes sense.

                If you want to go ahead and get your fed career going and you don't get picked up by AMO, might as well go BP due to the potential for boat jobs. There are stations where trainees a week of probation are making boat patrol due to the 24/7, 3 shifts a day every day of boats, 2-5 boats running at a time. When I left RGV sector, McAllen station was one of those with fresh off trainee status boat agents due to their need for boat guys. I believe DiverB72 was BP before, and the MIAs where I work now are probably 2/3 prior BP. Diver is a great resource and as you can see above knows what he's talking about. I'm not sure if he knows this but I'm pretty sure I met him and chit chatted a bunch with him while at FLETC lol. He was there for MIA and me for HSI. Lovely 25 minute lines at chow chats.
                UNITED STATES BORDER PATROL
                "90 years of tradition unhindered by progress!"


                honor first

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                • Talonderiel
                  Talonderiel commented
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                  battlewagon, Thank you for the information! I wasn't talking about being a CBPO on a boat. I'm fully expecting a port cargo screening, poe personnel/vehicle screening or an airport cargo/personnel screening. I'm just looking at it as a start to federal service and an interesting look into another field of CBP. I have no delusion of what the job will be. And, I'll be happy to do either.

                  I'm looking at OFO vice BP, as I'm getting older now and am more interested in the CBPO side of the green vs blue shirts. I have been through Boot Camp, Navy Expeditionary Combat Course, Navy Chief's Season, Navy Direct Officer Commissioning Course and a few other *** kicking courses.... I'm ready for a more adult "fork and knife" style course for once. It might be selfish, but I can accept the repercussions lol. [I say this and I'd jump on the AMO *** kicking course if called. I'm special! ]

                  I just know the dream job is MIA. But the wait may be too long, and that's if I can get my federal resume through the HR gates. My issue has been showing my experience over 13 years with the military in both law enforcement and tactical boat operations in a way that is acceptable. If it doesn't get through this time, I'll do my 2 - 4 years CBPO and then try to transfer over.

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