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  • Took my fitness test today. It was pretty straight forward as most have said. The officer that administered my test mentioned conducting the PT test at the field offices was new to them but they'd prefer it this way. Recruits were going to FLETC not being able to do at least 5 push-ups, according to him. Before you test they read the standards of the test then demonstrate how it's done so there is no confusion. Overall it's pretty straight-forward.

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  • Any idea when there will be another open source / direct hire announcement?

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    • Has anyone not been reached out to in regard to taking a poly? I have completed everything (SF86, drug test, medical and the PFT) in this process except the poly.

      I have heard that the poly is mandatory and I have heard that it being done at random. I’m just trying to figure out the next steps and I havnt gotten anywhere. Any insight would
      be appreciated.

      Thanks!

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      • No clue. Hopefully the poly isn’t as bad as CBP after the stories I heard

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      • Seattle Field Office is now contacting people who applied directly to the FO.

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      • Hello all! I've been selected from the August 2021 female only announcement and I am stressed out!!! I have to provide documentation for medical clearance because I'm a disabled veteran. I am most concerned about the eye test! With corrective lenses I am 20/20 but uncorrected I am 20/200 in both eyes! From what I've read you have to be at least 20/20, 20/30, or 20/40 in one of your eyes. I cannot make sense of why they would put a standard on uncorrected vision when I have to wear my glasses anyway! I just don't know what to think at this point. If anyone has any insight on this I'd greatly appreciate it.

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        • Robert_212
          Robert_212
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          Robert_212 commented
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          Dont stress it..go through with the documentations/ recommendations. Most likely you are going yo have to see an optometrist or an ophthalmologist and most likely they going to ask to submit a waiver to the medical board in the worst case scenario. Dont give up until you told otherwise. I’ve read somewhere you can appeal the final decision with OPM if its service related but i can be wrong.

          Most applicant are held up on the vision part as me being one of them.. i had to submit a retest from a local optometrist for my uncorrected near/ distant vision and that came out to be 20/20 near and 20/25 distant on both eyes. My corrected was 20/20 both near and distant. Most of these medical contractor seem not to know what they doing. Like i said, dont give up until you see a professional specialist and told otherwise from the medical board. Good luck.

        • emtguy89
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          Quickly get corrective surgery as soon as possible.

      • Originally posted by AspiringICE View Post
        Hello all! I've been selected from the August 2021 female only announcement and I am stressed out!!! I have to provide documentation for medical clearance because I'm a disabled veteran. I am most concerned about the eye test! With corrective lenses I am 20/20 but uncorrected I am 20/200 in both eyes! From what I've read you have to be at least 20/20, 20/30, or 20/40 in one of your eyes. I cannot make sense of why they would put a standard on uncorrected vision when I have to wear my glasses anyway! I just don't know what to think at this point. If anyone has any insight on this I'd greatly appreciate it.
        Unless something has changed It doesn’t appear that you qualify…. Directly from ICE.GOV

        Uncorrected distant visual acuity must meet at least one of the following if only glasses are used to correct distant vision:
        1. 20/40 in one eye and no worse than 20/70 in the other eye.
        2. 20/30 in one eye and no worse than 20/100 in the other eye.
        3. 20/20 in one eye and no worse than 20/400 in the other eye.

        https://www.ice.gov/doclib/careers/p...Applicants.pdf
        “Right now I'm having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I've forgotten this before.” - Steven Wright

        US Army MP (95B) 1992-1997
        DOJ Agent/ DHS Officer 1997 to Present

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        • Originally posted by Exbpa340 View Post

          Unless something has changed It doesn’t appear that you qualify…. Directly from ICE.GOV

          Uncorrected distant visual acuity must meet at least one of the following if only glasses are used to correct distant vision:
          1. 20/40 in one eye and no worse than 20/70 in the other eye.
          2. 20/30 in one eye and no worse than 20/100 in the other eye.
          3. 20/20 in one eye and no worse than 20/400 in the other eye.

          https://www.ice.gov/doclib/careers/p...Applicants.pdf
          I also have to write a waiver letter for my vision.(, corrected distant vision is: 20/25(+2) right; 20/20 left)
          Any advice, I didn't want to copy verbatim from the sample they supplied.
          Also who information do I put in the (Re: [Agent’s name and organization with address]) section?
          Thanks
          handsom4life
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          Last edited by handsom4life; 01-14-2022, 11:45 PM.

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          • Robert_212
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            I had to write a waiver as well. I used exactly what was written in the sample letter..i just filled in the blanks with my info.. i am under the expression they want you to use the same sample letter since its a request going to a different medical board. (Thats my assumption, do as you please) i couldnt see myself rewording the sample letter since it outlines what you are agreeing to and the outcomes, Hence why i used word for word minus the blanks. Again, do as you feel.

            Under “agent and organization address”, i put my name and my CBP port address. I did not list my Supv name since am not using it as a memo going up the chain of command.

            I yet to submit mine since i still need to print out my performance evaluation and a letter from my supv stating my daily duties when i get back from vacation. I suggest you submit all the suggested info they ask as you dont want to be denied when it reached the the medical board. Good luck

        • Robert,
          Please keep us posted on the decision. Thanks!

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          • I “failed” vision and was allowed to retest. My doctor said i meet the standards and no idea why they would of failed me at the contract medical facility. Submitted my retest 2 months ago and its been radio silence since.

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            • AspiringICE
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              My test results were the same at Concentra and the Optometry clinic at the V.A. I really am 20/200 in both eyes uncorrected but I do correct to 20/20. I feel that there shouldn't even be standard on uncorrected vision.

            • Exbpa340
              Exbpa340
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              Exbpa340 commented
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              An uncorrected visual acuity standard is needed because officers perform many tasks which can result in having spectacles unwittingly removed in situations where the officer must still retain a level of vision to perform critical tasks.

          • That's all well and good but I seriously doubt that all of the ICE officers that wear glasses meet these uncorrected visual acuity standards. Miss me with that!
            AspiringICE
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            Last edited by AspiringICE; 01-14-2022, 09:48 PM.

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            • Exbpa340
              Exbpa340
              West Coast DO
              Exbpa340 commented
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              Some may or may not meet that HIRING standard but that is an apples to oranges argument. The hiring standard is completely different than a continued employment/fitness for duty standard and I am somewhat shocked you don’t realize that.

            • emtguy89
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              Many agencies (troopers) and entire states have similar vision requirements. I wanted it bad enough that I spent $4,000 out of pocket for corrective surgery. You can do the same. Otherwise just move on to something else, no sense whining about it here. You do realize this job pays over $100k, with many people also retiring with over $1 mil in their TSP account?

          • Originally posted by handsom4life View Post

            I also have to write a waiver letter for my vision.(, corrected distant vision is: 20/25(+2) right; 20/20 left)
            Any advice, I didn't want to copy verbatim from the sample the supplied.
            Also who information do I put in the (Re: [Agent’s name and organization with address]) section?
            Thanks
            Thank you I added my daily duties from past and current LEO jobs. I really didn't want to get my supervisor involved. I just started a new department. I still have a few days.

            I am not sure what port , will i be sent to, I selected 3 different ones.
            handsom4life
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            Last edited by handsom4life; 01-14-2022, 11:47 PM.

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          • Originally posted by AspiringICE View Post
            That's all well and good but I seriously doubt that all of the ICE officers that wear glasses meet these uncorrected visual acuity standards. Miss me with that!
            Additionally, you are trying to get an LEO position at a rather advanced age that up until recently had mandatory retirement at age 57. This required applicants to be hired before 37. So someone in there mid 40s utilizing a waiver for age based on military service that has bad eye sight. How’s that eye sight going to be in 5 years? 10? 15? We’ve had a few “new” officers that were hired in their mid to late 40s and for the most part have been a bust. The job is not what it once was but is very technical and many trying to learn the intricacies at age 50 and beyond just aren’t interested.
            “Right now I'm having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I've forgotten this before.” - Steven Wright

            US Army MP (95B) 1992-1997
            DOJ Agent/ DHS Officer 1997 to Present

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