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  • Iea Newark Vs. Nyc

    I applied for IEA 2005 and again early this year and playing the waiting game. I applied for both locality and wanted to know the pros and cons of them to help making a choice. Anyone w/ info let me know.

    Thanks
    Last edited by bigblue8081; 03-17-2007, 02:05 PM.
    When in doubt prone em' out!

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    I work at the NYC office, so I can comment on this office. The NYC office is a larger, much busier office with more agents than Newark. Newark is more laid back with less opportunities than NYC. There is unlimited overtime right now in NYC. Almost every IEA will meet or exceed the OT cap this year. They had to request a waiver from the OT cap from Washington, it is so out of control there. There are numerous opportunities at the NYC office, here is a breakdown:

    Processing unit: this is the team responsible for receiving aliens in ICE custody which are picked up and delivered by other IEA's from the street, correctional facilities, airport, etc. They fingerprint, photograph, serve charging documents and make arrangements to transfer the detainees to other facilities. Generally 8AM-4PM with regular overtime required.

    Jail unit: This team travels to Federal, state, and local correctional facilities, and accepts custody of inmates who are about to be released and have Immigration holds on them. They pedigree the individuals, inventory their property and money, and transport them to Varick St. and turn them over to Processing. This is currently 6PM-2PM, however you rarely just work 8 hours due to the unpredictible nature of dealing with other agencies and the discharging of inmates from them.

    Airport unit: These IEA's pick up detainees from jails contracted out by ICE who are being deported. They escort them to the airport and turn them over to other IEA's who will be waiting for them at the airport to escort them back to their country on the airplane. Sometimes, if the alien is granted voluntary departure, they will just escort them to the gate and watch them take off. They are also responsible for executing I-200's so that the alien may be criminally prosecuted if he reenters the country. The hours vary with this duty depending on flights.

    Court unit: This is very similar to the work of a court officer or bailiff. These IEA's basically watch detainees in the court penn and bring them before the Immigration Judge/Court. They also supervise the aliens attorney/consular visits and are responsible for picking up detainees from correctional facilities and transporting them to court. This is generally 4AM-12PM.

    Criminal Alien Program: IEA's in this team are stationed at Rikers Island, Nassau County jail, and Sufoilk county jail. They are responsible for interviewing the inmates at the jail while they are incarcerated to determinal alienage and place Immigration detainers on Criminal Aliens incarcerated so that the jail unite may pick them up upon the expiration of their sentence. They are plain clothes and generally work 8AM-4PM Mon-Fri.

    Fugitive Operations: This is the team who will go after Criminal Aliens who have been ordered deported from the United States and have absconded or failed to comply with the Order of Removal. They also go after those who have failed to appear in court for their scheduled appearence. They execute administrative and/or Criminal warrants at homes, bussinesses, etc.They will also round up any other Immigration Violators who they encounter during the course of their operations. This unit requires you to work long hours but is very good experience.

    Prosecutions unit. These IEA's are reponsible for initiating Federal Criminal Charges against individuals who have illegally re-entered the United States after being deported. They work very closly with Deportation Officers and the US Attorney.

    Most IEA's in NYC fly both domestically and internationally 2-3 times per month. Also Varick street is scheduled to open up as a fully functioning Immigration Detention Center in the near future and all of the detention/transport duties will be handed over to private contractors.
    Last edited by MidnightHeat; 03-25-2007, 11:01 AM.

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    • #3
      Thanks for the info.
      Is it possible to request any of these teams or is it assigned?
      I was not aware they had a ot cap is it the same as cbp $35000.00?
      How does the leap pay work i have 2 freinds who just started there bout a month or so ago they told me u can have the 25% or ot, is that true?
      Also 1 of them was sent on a tdy to alabama for 45 days w/ 4 days notice does that happen often?
      NYC is mostly in uniform from what i hear and no parking... or is there a parking facility for ieas
      Is the Criminal Alien Program ACAP i heard that that was ieas in local police Precincts to run criminals immigration status?
      Thanks
      When in doubt prone em' out!

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      • #4
        Where did you apply to? I don't see a listing on usajobs?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by bigblue8081
          Thanks for the info.
          Is it possible to request any of these teams or is it assigned?
          I was not aware they had a ot cap is it the same as cbp $35000.00?
          How does the leap pay work i have 2 freinds who just started there bout a month or so ago they told me u can have the 25% or ot, is that true?
          Also 1 of them was sent on a tdy to alabama for 45 days w/ 4 days notice does that happen often?
          NYC is mostly in uniform from what i hear and no parking... or is there a parking facility for ieas
          Is the Criminal Alien Program ACAP i heard that that was ieas in local police Precincts to run criminals immigration status?
          Thanks
          Generally, you are assigned to a specific team. Movement to different teams in NYC is currently being done on one year rotations for everyone. However if you want to get on to a different team you can can talk to the supervisor of that unit you want and if he likes you and your supervisor doesn't mind loosing you then they will move you. There is a $35,000 OT cap. It doesn't include per diem money from trips. Most IEA's in NYC are on 45 act OT, the CAP people and Fug Ops guys are on AUO. I know exactly the guy you are talking about who went to Alabama. I know him. There is currently a wheel for the 45 day detail to Alabama. Everyone is required to go at some point.
          There is no parking available at Varick St. or 26 Federal Plaza for any low level ICE employees. Most of the IEA's and DO's take public transportation to avoid the headaches of the city.There is parking at Rikers Island, and Nassau. The ACAP/CAP people are staioned at the jails(Rikers Island, Nassau County jail, etc.)

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          • #6
            Originally posted by CO1259
            Where did you apply to? I don't see a listing on usajobs?
            The annoucement was done well over 4-5 months ago.....

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            • #7
              I am currently a CBPO at JFK and I might take the IEA job I was curious what I can make a year because as a GS-11 I can make 90,000 a yr at the airport. What is the rumor about you guys getting GS-11?
              When in doubt prone em' out!

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              • #8
                depend on your grade level but you can make more...even if u dont it wont be that big a difference.....but if youre worried about the $$$, then dont take the job..there are enough people here that are here for the $$$ and do not belong at Varick... i know i sound like a d-i-c-k but its just that Varick sucks enough as it is and we n eed officers that want to work in law enforcement and not just collect a paycheck

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                • #9
                  i forgot to mention that II's and CBPO's arent liked by alot of the legacy DEO's, except for the upper, upper management....and if youre a CBPO, then you really will not be liked (dont worry, I like you R.D.)...and we dont like JFK CBP because they can never deliver a complete and correct A-file.....not even from the CBPO(e)'s......ive only seen one complete, correct case performed that was outstanding... his reputation is well deserved...why is your IDENT/ENFORCE always down by the way? and why cant you ink print them?....lazyness is why JFK CBP is hated at Varick....cant wait until the day i get to go to JFK to pick up a body and not take the body because of an incomplete file.....thats when im gonna make a CBPO print the body!....and if they say they have no ink pad, not to worry, i carry my own in my bag and ill bring a couple of FD-249's for good measure....cant wait

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                  • #10
                    forgot to answer the question...MidHeat is on the money.....be glad if you get NYC because we run circles around Newark......been there a few times and i can say that im not impressed...lazyness is what i saw....and a few years ago when we were detailed to Newark, we made them look so bad because management wasnt accustomed to seeing their officers come to work....as i say, work comes first, then you can chill.....NYC is a better experience...though Newark officers fly more often...to all the IEA's at Newark, sorry but its the truth, except for my bros at CCA

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                    • #11
                      Looking for answers

                      Just wanted to know, do all IEA have to learn spanish and is it pretty hard to get through in FLETC. I went to FLETC for Capitol Police and now I am a deputy in FL. I am looing to get into either USMS or IEA. I am trying to get to GA can anyone give me insight? Also do you have to take a test and what is it like
                      Last edited by floridaboy954; 03-31-2007, 04:13 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Fugitive Operations: This is the team who will go after Criminal Aliens who have been ordered deported from the United States and have absconded or failed to comply with the Order of Removal. They also go after those who have failed to appear in court for their scheduled appearence. They execute administrative and/or Criminal warrants at homes, bussinesses, etc.They will also round up any other Immigration Violators who they encounter during the course of their operations. This unit requires you to work long hours but is very good experience.

                        What kind of additional training do you need to get on this team? Is it possible to be assigned to this team right out of FLETC? CBP is good money and all but I find it a little stale. I’m tired of people that live here 30 years and cant say hello in English. And the ones that tell me they live some place else and I send them in thinking they will be deferred and watch them leave 2 steps behind me with a smile. ****es me off. The agency I work for is to busy trying not to make ripples in the pond and it’s frustrating. I would like to get the ones we are trying to get rid of and get them out.
                        When in doubt prone em' out!

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                        • #13
                          If you are GS-11 with CBP as a CBPO and transfer to ICE as an IEA, whose highest pay grade is GS-9, would you take a reduction in pay, or keep your salary?

                          Also, BigBlue, could you respond to the PM I sent you? Thanks.

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                          • #14
                            What is the process like for IEA? From the time you get interview to hire date. What does in intel? Is there an agility test? Also just for clarity. Is it spanish only in certain areas of the US you have to take it or is it for everyone? Do you have to recert like Border Patrol throughout course of career? Also I am trying to get to GA area is it possible?

                            Oh as a deputy sheriff, its not what all think it is. Its nice but I just tired of the bull-----. I want to get back to the feds that is where my heart is. Also are they trying to start up an Oct FLETC class?

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                            • #15
                              you can make this team after only a year on, no experience in any of the law enforcement databases, how to put a file together, or have any knowledge of imm law.... it has just happened.... point is, if you're liked then anything is possible

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