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  • If you need more help tell me you City your grade

    Originally posted by Hunt the Jackel View Post
    www.opm.gov/ Now look at wages.
    GS5 or 7 and I will tell your pay. PM me.

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    • Originally posted by kc12 View Post
      Port policy is one thing, national policy is another. What it says on your credentials is what you are authorized to do. Your PD can limit what you do to a point, but it does not change what you're authorized to do by national policy.
      YOUR MAKING me laugh to hard. Enough with Port Policy. It is CBP policy
      Quit blowing smoke up these newbies butts. And besides most CBPOS would not want to make an arrest or work a patrol by themselfs.
      YOU ARE A GREETER AND CUSTOMER SERVICE REP
      Pledge to Travelers

      We pledge to cordially greet and welcome you to the United States.
      We pledge to treat you with courtesy, dignity, and respect.
      We pledge to explain the CBP process to you.
      We pledge to have a supervisor listen to your comments.
      We pledge to accept and respond to your comments in written, verbal, or electronic form.
      We pledge to provide reasonable assistance due to delay or disability.
      THIS IS WHAT CBP IS . This what they tell you. Where is it about protecting the US. WATCH the Commissioner at Congressional hearings with Chief of Border Patrol. The questions on enforcement are addressed to BP. On traffic and wait times to CBP
      Every port spends $$$ and time monitering lanes wait time. AIrport wait time.

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      • Hunt the Jackal, first off, I appreciate your honesty about the job. All of that must be weighed when a person is contemplating a career shift. I don't know anything about you but it is obvious you've had your fill of CBP. Fair enough, maybe it wasn't for you. But you have a tendency to post with an attitude that the job is terrible and not fit to be called an occupation. You're presuming too much about people you don't know. Maybe this is a dream job for some of these people waiting. They may not be looking for the same things in a job that you are. I know that you have posted that same disclaimer before in some of your earlier posts, but your posts don't just belittle the job. They belittle all of us waiting and hoping for this job with every ounce of our being. You can judge me from that if you want and think I'm pathetic, but you know absolutely zero about the situation that any of us are coming from. Please keep posting the truth of the job. I've used many of your comments for information, but it would be nice if you used a little less venom in your posts. I can absolutely assure you that the worst day as a CBPO will beat the pants off of the best day at the job I'm currently in.

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        • I never want to hurt someones feelings.

          Originally posted by DirtStyx View Post
          Hunt the Jackal, first off, I appreciate your honesty about the job. All of that must be weighed when a person is contemplating a career shift. I don't know anything about you but it is obvious you've had your fill of CBP. Fair enough, maybe it wasn't for you. But you have a tendency to post with an attitude that the job is terrible and not fit to be called an occupation. You're presuming too much about people you don't know. Maybe this is a dream job for some of these people waiting. They may not be looking for the same things in a job that you are. I know that you have posted that same disclaimer before in some of your earlier posts, but your posts don't just belittle the job. They belittle all of us waiting and hoping for this job with every ounce of our being. You can judge me from that if you want and think I'm pathetic, but you know absolutely zero about the situation that any of us are coming from. Please keep posting the truth of the job. I've used many of your comments for information, but it would be nice if you used a little less venom in your posts. I can absolutely assure you that the worst day as a CBPO will beat the pants off of the best day at the job I'm currently in.
          AND I OFTEN STATE I UNDERSTAND COMING FROM A BAD JOB. I WORKED many a bad job until I moved on. HOWEVER THE major problem with CBP is how fake it is. AT least if you apply to be a garbage man you have an idea of the job. AND AGAIN if your just here for the money IT might be for many.
          Although for myself if I came here with no intentions of a Law enforcement job. I would work here until I could get a degree or whatever to get out. It is a mindless job. GO to an Airport and ask if you can watch for a few hours and you will see. LOOK past the guns/cuffs etc. Actually that TOM HANKS movie is a pretty close to reality. She sits there and stamps! I digress. Remember after so many years your making 70 k plus. Your working 40 weekends a year. All holidays. Sundays. And off shift midnights. maybe 6 days on two rotating days off. Breathing toxi fumes. Standing . BORED OUT OF YOUR MIND. So no it is not an easy job. Many have earned degrees here and left. Remember we lose 58 people every two weeks from this HIGH paying job ?????????? PM me and I will give you honest ansers.

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          • Whatever agency you work for that has statutory arrest authority, carries firearms and is not under disciplinary action can carry a firearm under HR 218. You don't need to bother with a CCL. There's nothing more exciting than challenging management. They will tell you can't do this you can't do that. Whatever. Call them on the carpet! They told us we couldn't carry under 218 and I told them I do it everyday. I then told them if they had a problem with it then discipline me!! That's when they openly admitted we were covered. Remember an agency can't deny your rights under a law that benefits you.

            You don't want newbies challenging too much. In that first year they can pretty much get rid of you for no cause.

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            • Originally posted by Hunt the Jackel View Post
              www.opm.gov/ Now look at wages.
              I was asking whether CBP is on the regular GS or the LE pay scale; it was answered.

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              • yeah i got in TSU april 15 but for BPA!.They are like 3 months behind or so i've heard. they calling people from mid feb still.

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                • Originally posted by Hunt the Jackel View Post
                  Actually that TOM HANKS movie is a pretty close to reality.
                  Priceless. "I wait" - Viktor Navorski

                  Jackel - thanks for offering a different perspective on the CBPO position. Eventhough most of what you say is negative toward the job, its apparent that you honestly believe what you say, so nobody should fault you for that.

                  I may have to choose between CBP and IEA in the next couple of weeks.

                  I'll be sure to pick your brain a bit through PMs if/when that time comes.
                  ICE IEA Philadelphia FO (Dingmans Ferry, PA)
                  Written: 5/15/08
                  NOR: 5/20/08
                  TO: 10/28/08
                  Medical/Drug Test: Cleared from CBP
                  Fitness: 2/02/09
                  BI: 3/15/09
                  OB: 4/24
                  EOD: 7/27
                  FLETC: 7/29 (Class 928)


                  CBPO Pennsylvania
                  Written: 3/15/08
                  NOR: 4/2/08
                  TO: 5/22/08
                  Pre-Emp Forms: 6/2/08
                  Fitness/Medical: 6/18/08
                  VBT: 6/30/08
                  Drug Test: 7/10/08
                  Quals: (GS-7) 7/23/08
                  Met w/ BI: 9/24/08
                  BI submitted: 10/10/08
                  TSU: 4/2/09
                  Removed from TSU (med/fit): 6/4
                  EOD:

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                  • Originally posted by Hunt the Jackel View Post
                    AND I OFTEN STATE I UNDERSTAND COMING FROM A BAD JOB. I WORKED many a bad job until I moved on. HOWEVER THE major problem with CBP is how fake it is. AT least if you apply to be a garbage man you have an idea of the job. AND AGAIN if your just here for the money IT might be for many.
                    Although for myself if I came here with no intentions of a Law enforcement job. I would work here until I could get a degree or whatever to get out. It is a mindless job. GO to an Airport and ask if you can watch for a few hours and you will see. LOOK past the guns/cuffs etc. Actually that TOM HANKS movie is a pretty close to reality. She sits there and stamps! I digress. Remember after so many years your making 70 k plus. Your working 40 weekends a year. All holidays. Sundays. And off shift midnights. maybe 6 days on two rotating days off. Breathing toxi fumes. Standing . BORED OUT OF YOUR MIND. So no it is not an easy job. Many have earned degrees here and left. Remember we lose 58 people every two weeks from this HIGH paying job ?????????? PM me and I will give you honest ansers.
                    You keep mentioning a degree. A degree can be a great thing to have, but not in every situation. By no means, is it the promised land. I am coming from a bad job to cbp and cant wait to start. I have several friends with degrees who have been sitting in the same cubicle for the past 5-10 years for half of what I will make as a cbpo, and they tell me that they would kill to be in the position I am in. Since we are being honest here, degrees are very overrated.
                    It comes down to the individual and what they want out of life. You can have 5 degrees, but still not have what it takes to make it in the world. Some people can ace every test, but still not have what it takes to sit through an interview or perform the duties of certain jobs. Alot of degrees give you the knowledge to go to a job and do the same repetitive paperwork over and over, day in and day out. Hmmmm....sound familiar?!!!.
                    Every job has positives and negatives. As I said, each job comes down to the individual and what they want out of life. If you want something you will get it through your desire to have it. NOTHING else matters.

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                    • Airport is a funny story, legally possible but logistically impossible. Hanks was able to live in and upgrade the terminal under repair, especially getting hired to join the crew contracted to renovate the airport, is all heart warming and makes the viewer fuzzy inside. Logistically it is impossible. Put on the same plane back, easiest solution to any situation.

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                      • For the most part a degree shows a company that you can start something hard and carry through and finish it. I've got a degree, and a good paying job, but do I enjoy it? No. I can't wait to jump to federal.

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                        • Is my NOPA going to be sent to me Via-email or to my home address??
                          Corrections: "We face what society fears."

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                          • Originally posted by 500pearl View Post
                            Airport is a funny story, legally possible but logistically impossible. Hanks was able to live in and upgrade the terminal under repair, especially getting hired to join the crew contracted to renovate the airport, is all heart warming and makes the viewer fuzzy inside. Logistically it is impossible. Put on the same plane back, easiest solution to any situation.
                            Maybe its not so far fetched.... http://www.snopes.com/travel/airline/airport.asp
                            ICE IEA Philadelphia FO (Dingmans Ferry, PA)
                            Written: 5/15/08
                            NOR: 5/20/08
                            TO: 10/28/08
                            Medical/Drug Test: Cleared from CBP
                            Fitness: 2/02/09
                            BI: 3/15/09
                            OB: 4/24
                            EOD: 7/27
                            FLETC: 7/29 (Class 928)


                            CBPO Pennsylvania
                            Written: 3/15/08
                            NOR: 4/2/08
                            TO: 5/22/08
                            Pre-Emp Forms: 6/2/08
                            Fitness/Medical: 6/18/08
                            VBT: 6/30/08
                            Drug Test: 7/10/08
                            Quals: (GS-7) 7/23/08
                            Met w/ BI: 9/24/08
                            BI submitted: 10/10/08
                            TSU: 4/2/09
                            Removed from TSU (med/fit): 6/4
                            EOD:

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                            • Originally posted by Hunt the Jackel View Post
                              Yes we have enhanced retirement . And it is fine. IT is not the SAME as Border Patrol , FBI, ETC . The difference being . You hire on with CBP at 34 work 3 years . And realize this job is a joke. YOU CANNOT APPLY to a LEO position. Now say you had hired on at Border Patrol you enjoyed your job for several years but are ready for a change say to ICE . You can make the change.
                              Since you're a blow hard know-it-all here's the LAW argue with it.

                              Title 5 USC sec 8412 (d) states:

                              (d) An employee who is separated from the service, except by removal for cause on charges of misconduct or delinquency—
                              (1) after completing 25 years of service as a law enforcement officer, member of the Capitol Police or Supreme Court Police, firefighter, or nuclear materials courier, or any combination of such service totaling at least 25 years, or
                              (2) after becoming 50 years of age and completing 20 years of service as a law enforcement officer, member of the Capitol Police or Supreme Court Police, firefighter, or nuclear materials courier, or any combination of such service totaling at least 20 years,

                              is entitled to an annuity.
                              Here's a link to Title 5: http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/5...2----000-.html

                              Public Law 110-161 sec 535 modified Title 5 USC sec 8412 (d) para (1) and (2) by striking "or" before nuclear materials courier and adding "Customs and Border Protection Officer or" after "courier, or".

                              This makes our retirement the same as the 12(d) retirement of the other agencies. Additionally PL 110-161 sec 535 did not take away the CBPO specific retirement stipulations, like counting half of O/T in the computation for retirement pay. If we had straight up 12(d) retirement we would have lost the O/T inclusion in our retirement calculations. If you look at your SF50 in your OPF you will see your retirement is 12(d) retirement. It doesn't matter what some HR type or Chief in CBP tells you. When transferring to another agency all that is looked at is the SF50.

                              You obviously hate CBP. Why do you stick around?
                              But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new guards for their future security.

                              For the intelectually challenged: If the government screws the people enough, it is the right and responsibility of the people to revolt and form a new government.

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                              • Originally posted by robeans View Post
                                People! Gather around and let me tell you something.

                                First, we already get a LEO Retirement, no if's and's or but's.

                                Second, we don't want to get "LEO" pay. LEO pay is only for GL-9 or below, and if we were to get that we would loose our COPRA and would get AUO (not going to explain those two again). If I'm at a port where I can Cap out, then I will make more money with COPRA then I would with AUO.

                                So again, LEO pay, or GL pay is not all it's cracked out to be, and it's only good for 9 or below. A Journeyman Border Patrol Agent and a Journeyman CBPO are on the same pay scale.
                                Are you refering to the IEAs? From what I understand, IEAs get the AUO and unscheduled overtime. The agents that do the actual deportations (flight escorts) get that overtime.

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